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December 21, 2016, 01:02:53 PM
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is there any exact ICO price for antshares...participated but didn´t remember...bought the most of my shares at around 20K??

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December 21, 2016, 01:24:13 PM
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is there any exact ICO price for antshares...participated but didn´t remember...bought the most of my shares at around 20K??

pre-ico average:
600k CNY ÷ 10M ANS = (0.06 CNY/ANS)

ico #1 average - Oct. 2015: 1 BTC = 1552 CNY:
2100 BTC ÷ 17M ANS = 0.0001235 BTC/ANS = (0.19 CNY/ANS)

ico #2 average - Sept. 2016: 1 BTC = 4151 CNY:
6119.53 BTC ÷ 23M ANS = 0.00026607 BTC/ANS = (1.10 CNY/ANS)

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December 21, 2016, 02:20:34 PM
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What do people think about putting that 50% of the supply into control of votes by ANS holders?  This would be more decentralized than devs controlling more than 51% of supply.

Voting system similar to the DAO, except it could be done without holding all the capital in a smart contract.

People might be willing to put their ANS weight behind a "yes" vote on a proposal to send 10% to 40% of supply to a burn address in order to increase decentralization and uncertainty about future sell pressure.

If u give rats the power to implement the voting systems based on the amount of influence submitted to votes that affects coin supply, steepness of emission, amount to be burned and where to put a sizeable portion of tokens at one given point in time, ... , giving them an allowance to be in the leading position on this front, u'll get a plutarchy. Which is far from being top priority here. Who would walk away letting plutarchians keep that much of a coin and not try to put a spoke in the wheel. How would they pump it given it's that fair distributed? Nobody would appreciate this kind of amateur self-governance.
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December 21, 2016, 02:23:55 PM
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What do people think about putting that 50% of the supply into control of votes by ANS holders?  This would be more decentralized than devs controlling more than 51% of supply.

Voting system similar to the DAO, except it could be done without holding all the capital in a smart contract.

People might be willing to put their ANS weight behind a "yes" vote on a proposal to send 10% to 40% of supply to a burn address in order to increase decentralization and uncertainty about future sell pressure.

If u give rats the power to implement the voting systems based on the amount of influence submitted to votes that affects coin supply, steepness of emission, amount to be burned and where to put a sizeable portion of tokens at one given point in time, ... , giving them an allowance to be in the leading position on this front, u'll get a plutarchy. Which is far from being top priority here. Who would walk away letting plutarchians keep that much of a coin and not try to put a spoke in the wheel. How would they pump it given it's that fair distributed? Nobody would appreciate this kind of amateur self-governance.

Even without some sort of vote, devs could always decide to send 10% to 40% of supply to a burn address if they wanted to

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December 22, 2016, 03:35:44 AM
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So, I've tried to look on this thread but it I can't seem to locate the answer.

I finally went to claim my ANS, inputted my private key, and got a message that it would be credited within a week. 

A week has passed, and nothing credited to my antshares account.  No response from the company.  They are completely ignoring my emails which makes me uneasy because I invested a fair amount.  So how long does it take to get ANS?  I tried inputting my key again and got the same message.  As a part of good coding, the response should either be "hey you inputted your key previously and we are working on it" or "hey this is the first time we are seeing this and we are processing it".  So I'm not entirely sure that the key was even accepted, although it is the correct key. 

Assuming I get ANS in my antshares account, once you have ANS, I see people type in their private key to the Windows wallets, import it, and get their ANS.  However, I have a mac so I'm trying to use the web wallet.  There is no private key input to the web wallet.  So how do you get ANS into the web wallet?   

Thanks! 
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December 22, 2016, 06:37:20 AM
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So, I've tried to look on this thread but it I can't seem to locate the answer.

I finally went to claim my ANS, inputted my private key, and got a message that it would be credited within a week. 

A week has passed, and nothing credited to my antshares account.  No response from the company.  They are completely ignoring my emails which makes me uneasy because I invested a fair amount.  So how long does it take to get ANS?  I tried inputting my key again and got the same message.  As a part of good coding, the response should either be "hey you inputted your key previously and we are working on it" or "hey this is the first time we are seeing this and we are processing it".  So I'm not entirely sure that the key was even accepted, although it is the correct key. 

Assuming I get ANS in my antshares account, once you have ANS, I see people type in their private key to the Windows wallets, import it, and get their ANS.  However, I have a mac so I'm trying to use the web wallet.  There is no private key input to the web wallet.  So how do you get ANS into the web wallet?   

Thanks! 

1)from ico claim to actual crediting is 1 week max.
2)do not copy paste priv key
3)web wallet does have a priv key import function, check out again, it's app.antshares.org
4)showing balance of your ico address requires a)credited and 2)wallet fully synced

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December 22, 2016, 06:50:46 AM
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What do people think about putting that 50% of the supply into control of votes by ANS holders?  This would be more decentralized than devs controlling more than 51% of supply.

Voting system similar to the DAO, except it could be done without holding all the capital in a smart contract.

People might be willing to put their ANS weight behind a "yes" vote on a proposal to send 10% to 40% of supply to a burn address in order to increase decentralization and uncertainty about future sell pressure.

If u give rats the power to implement the voting systems based on the amount of influence submitted to votes that affects coin supply, steepness of emission, amount to be burned and where to put a sizeable portion of tokens at one given point in time, ... , giving them an allowance to be in the leading position on this front, u'll get a plutarchy. Which is far from being top priority here. Who would walk away letting plutarchians keep that much of a coin and not try to put a spoke in the wheel. How would they pump it given it's that fair distributed? Nobody would appreciate this kind of amateur self-governance.

Good, I can tell you for sure the team constantly monitor and analyze feedback from the community on many issues.
ANC being one, and this is another.
Finally see ppl talking about this subject with seriousness.

We welcome more discussions on the 50% remaining, since we already proclaimed to use them for "ecosystem support"
I mean, if there is a good governance structure\economic model, we are more than happy to discuss the feasibility of making them available.
Seriously, your input are much appreciated, and we need more insight

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December 22, 2016, 06:54:17 AM
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What do people think about putting that 50% of the supply into control of votes by ANS holders?  This would be more decentralized than devs controlling more than 51% of supply.

Voting system similar to the DAO, except it could be done without holding all the capital in a smart contract.

People might be willing to put their ANS weight behind a "yes" vote on a proposal to send 10% to 40% of supply to a burn address in order to increase decentralization and uncertainty about future sell pressure.

If u give rats the power to implement the voting systems based on the amount of influence submitted to votes that affects coin supply, steepness of emission, amount to be burned and where to put a sizeable portion of tokens at one given point in time, ... , giving them an allowance to be in the leading position on this front, u'll get a plutarchy. Which is far from being top priority here. Who would walk away letting plutarchians keep that much of a coin and not try to put a spoke in the wheel. How would they pump it given it's that fair distributed? Nobody would appreciate this kind of amateur self-governance.

Good, I can tell you for sure the team constantly monitor and analyze feedback from the community on many issues.
ANC being one, and this is another.
Finally see ppl talking about this subject with seriousness.

We welcome more discussions on the 50% remaining, since we already proclaimed to use them for "ecosystem support"
I mean, if there is a good governance structure\economic model, we are more than happy to discuss the feasibility of making them available.
Seriously, your input are much appreciated, and we need more insight

for the moment, we have a vague idea of using the remaining ANS to [enlarge] the ecosystem and expand our userbase, in that way we can benefit previous investors as well (for ico 2 investors). Hopefully you ppl get my idea

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December 22, 2016, 10:50:32 AM
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Doing another crowdfunding (A possible third one) is bad idea like what Synereo did to their remaining coins. Investors were hurt bad.

Best to distribute the remaining tokens in a three year span, market price - 20 million tokens sold by Q4 2017, another 20m by Q4 2018, and 10m by 2019.

You have a huge budget right now. I don't see any immediate need to sell off the remaining tokens.

What we really need is consistent updates.

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December 22, 2016, 11:14:14 AM
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@movecrypto: thanks a lot...so the ICO price in octobre 2015 was 1/6 of the Ico price in september 2016? thats really interesting and can explain the pressure on price since listing on exchanges...

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December 22, 2016, 07:41:18 PM
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So, I've tried to look on this thread but it I can't seem to locate the answer.

I finally went to claim my ANS, inputted my private key, and got a message that it would be credited within a week. 

A week has passed, and nothing credited to my antshares account.  No response from the company.  They are completely ignoring my emails which makes me uneasy because I invested a fair amount.  So how long does it take to get ANS?  I tried inputting my key again and got the same message.  As a part of good coding, the response should either be "hey you inputted your key previously and we are working on it" or "hey this is the first time we are seeing this and we are processing it".  So I'm not entirely sure that the key was even accepted, although it is the correct key. 

Assuming I get ANS in my antshares account, once you have ANS, I see people type in their private key to the Windows wallets, import it, and get their ANS.  However, I have a mac so I'm trying to use the web wallet.  There is no private key input to the web wallet.  So how do you get ANS into the web wallet?   

Thanks! 

1)from ico claim to actual crediting is 1 week max.
2)do not copy paste priv key
3)web wallet does have a priv key import function, check out again, it's app.antshares.org
4)showing balance of your ico address requires a)credited and 2)wallet fully synced

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Hi, Thanks for your answers!  much appreciated.   Maybe I'm daft, but I have searched the web wallet and still cannot find where to import the priv key.  Can you tell me where it is?  Thanks again.  
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December 22, 2016, 07:53:09 PM
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In my Antshares core wallet, there are several AntCoin, where we can trade for it?
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December 22, 2016, 08:01:06 PM
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I am not from chinese trading ant is chinese site.
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December 23, 2016, 12:42:21 AM
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@wayhu5: http://www.btc38.com/trade_en.html?mk_type=btc&btc38_trade_coin_name=anc

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December 23, 2016, 12:51:27 AM
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really disappointed  I was completely ignore by the guy who is delivering bounty bonuses!

After emailing more then 6 times with no response!

What a waster of time and effort!!
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Is that antcoin?
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where's link antshares wallet..??
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where's link antshares wallet..??
https://www.antshares.org/Download/Index
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December 23, 2016, 03:01:50 AM
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Now were at a bind again insiders trading or something must be going on we lost 10k sat in just a day or so that`s heavy dumping.
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Now were at a bind again insiders trading or something must be going on we lost 10k sat in just a day or so that`s heavy dumping.

Actually not this time. Like I said, some will wait to sell a rally rather than dump to the 0.60CNY levels. The insiders just paused their buying, that's all. They will probably resume buying again around 0.92 - 0.96CNY. But it shows that they are willing to buy up to 1.20CNY and they have the money to move the ANS market. That at least tells me profit taking for them begins at 1.80 - 2.40CNY and beyond.

It took five days this time from 0.70CNY to 1.30CNY, more gradual than the last strong rally.

Previously:  Grin
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If you think, ANS will reach its strongest support levels around 0.52CNY, best to sell now and re-buy later.

However, at 0.70CNY, the price is sitting on the support level printed last Oct. 24 and 18 days of dumping, it might rebound back to resistance level of 0.81 - 0.84CNY. It can't dump forever. The market is so illiquid that it only took two days from 0.51CNY to 2.20CNY last Oct 24 - 25, also best to sell when the price is rallying and not dumping.

If you wanted to sell now because of fear that you'll be losing more, it's kind of two weeks too late as the risk is greater that the price will rebound soon, best to sell around the resistance price (0.81CNY), if you want out at all costs.
Now you can start selling around 0.81CNY to 0.95CNY, if you think this project has no hope.  Grin An optimist would wait for 1.20CNY though.

 

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