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August 04, 2016, 06:09:24 AM
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I see a lot of people in rage and one is here.  Grin I hope it will all be cleaned up and pay what must be payed after that they could make a statement to what really happened.
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August 04, 2016, 06:15:41 AM
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This illegal exchanger (https://www.bitfinex.com/) is hacked.  120K BTC was stolen(aprox 60 mil USD) !

http://www.coindesk.com/bitfinex-shuts-down-customer-bitcoin-stolen/


It's so funny when they write "The theft is being reported to — and we are co-operating with — law enforcement."   What law enforcement when YOU are running an  illegal forex company(without licenses) ?!?!  Grin  

They are liars and morons and full of vanity(they know everything, they are beyond any problem, they are GODS)...This vanity brought down almost all the exchangers.

The most funny part is of course that, in as much as this was a real hack, and not an inside job, it was compliance with the law that rendered bitfinex vulnerable.  Remember that the CFTC inflicted a fine onto bitfinex because they kept their customers' coins in cold wallets, which, according to the CFTC, was violating one or other stupid rule concerning the customer having power over their funds, so bitfinex was forced to keep everything in hot wallets, and implemented hence this multisig feature which was apparently abused.

We see again the efficiency of state and law in screwing up working systems they don't like.
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August 04, 2016, 06:34:40 AM
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The most funny part is of course that, in as much as this was a real hack, and not an inside job, it was compliance with the law that rendered bitfinex vulnerable.  Remember that the CFTC inflicted a fine onto bitfinex because they kept their customers' coins in cold wallets, which, according to the CFTC, was violating one or other stupid rule concerning the customer having power over their funds, so bitfinex was forced to keep everything in hot wallets, and implemented hence this multisig feature which was apparently abused.

We see again the efficiency of state and law in screwing up working systems they don't like.


interesting. i did not know this.
all day yesterday i was wondering why the hell a big exchange like bitfinex is holding this much bitcoin in a hot wallet, granted this was multisig wallet but still it sounds like a stupid idea to keep that much there.

for the reference:
http://www.cftc.gov/PressRoom/PressReleases/pr7380-16

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August 04, 2016, 06:37:00 AM
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they are hacked by themself  Grin
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August 04, 2016, 06:42:44 AM
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If you're stupid enough to keep your coins on an illegal exchange, then you deserve to have your coin's stolen. This was probably a good thing.
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August 04, 2016, 07:51:35 AM
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If you're stupid enough to keep your coins on an illegal exchange, then you deserve to have your coin's stolen. This was probably a good thing.
I don't think when people who leave 120K on an exchange like bitfinex are stupid and not smarter than any of us. There are always reasons people have money on them, so actively trade or trade against new players who might have been more active on those exchanges. Some do not follow social media or forums religiously and aren't aware of the hacks and scams that have happened in the past.
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August 04, 2016, 08:52:54 AM
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This illegal exchanger (https://www.bitfinex.com/) is hacked.  120K BTC was stolen(aprox 60 mil USD) !

http://www.coindesk.com/bitfinex-shuts-down-customer-bitcoin-stolen/


It's so funny when they write "The theft is being reported to — and we are co-operating with — law enforcement."   What law enforcement when YOU are running an  illegal forex company(without licenses) ?!?!  Grin  

They are liars and morons and full of vanity(they know everything, they are beyond any problem, they are GODS)...This vanity brought down almost all the exchangers.

The most funny part is of course that, in as much as this was a real hack, and not an inside job, it was compliance with the law that rendered bitfinex vulnerable.  Remember that the CFTC inflicted a fine onto bitfinex because they kept their customers' coins in cold wallets, which, according to the CFTC, was violating one or other stupid rule concerning the customer having power over their funds, so bitfinex was forced to keep everything in hot wallets, and implemented hence this multisig feature which was apparently abused.

We see again the efficiency of state and law in screwing up working systems they don't like.


There are always up and down in the bitcoin market and lets just accept the fact that we can never bring back the lost bitcoin from bitfinex. Thats why there is a need for the government to take part and regulate bitcoins which means that all users will have a one wallet that is verified and no one can make transactions without being registered while blocking all unregistered wallets online.
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August 04, 2016, 09:13:22 AM
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It's been said a lot but probably not enough -

NEVER KEEP ANY SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF BTC AT AN EXCHANGE

Now it seems to be NO Exchanges can trust
No, no of course they are still exchanges that are solid. With long history or clear origin, solid background and well crafted script and security (Kraken, Coinbase).
But - usually the more secured is exchange the more KYC/AML info they want from their customers (Gemini). So It is a trade-off between being safe and giving up your pseudoanonimity...
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August 04, 2016, 09:19:11 AM
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If you're stupid enough to keep your coins on an illegal exchange, then you deserve to have your coin's stolen. This was probably a good thing.
I don't think when people who leave 120K on an exchange like bitfinex are stupid and not smarter than any of us. There are always reasons people have money on them, so actively trade or trade against new players who might have been more active on those exchanges. Some do not follow social media or forums religiously and aren't aware of the hacks and scams that have happened in the past.

120 k is a large amount of money. I think they should put the money in a cold wallet so it is not easy to access.

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August 04, 2016, 09:21:37 AM
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inside job.
inside job.
inside job.
when they see lots of coins sitting around of course they grab them all and run.
you throw a piece of juicy meat in front of a cat a hungry one and expect the cat not to jump on it, nature is nature man.

It's easy money, and probably even $1 million worth of coins is already more than they will ever see in their life. So yes, they'll just take it to "secure" their future. Because after 4 or 5 years people will slowly forget about it and they can slowly start spending or converting the coins after having mixed them for years.
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August 04, 2016, 09:23:04 AM
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This illegal exchanger (https://www.bitfinex.com/) is hacked.  120K BTC was stolen(aprox 60 mil USD) !

http://www.coindesk.com/bitfinex-shuts-down-customer-bitcoin-stolen/


It's so funny when they write "The theft is being reported to — and we are co-operating with — law enforcement."   What law enforcement when YOU are running an  illegal forex company(without licenses) ?!?!  Grin  

They are liars and morons and full of vanity(they know everything, they are beyond any problem, they are GODS)...This vanity brought down almost all the exchangers.

The most funny part is of course that, in as much as this was a real hack, and not an inside job, it was compliance with the law that rendered bitfinex vulnerable.  Remember that the CFTC inflicted a fine onto bitfinex because they kept their customers' coins in cold wallets, which, according to the CFTC, was violating one or other stupid rule concerning the customer having power over their funds, so bitfinex was forced to keep everything in hot wallets, and implemented hence this multisig feature which was apparently abused.

We see again the efficiency of state and law in screwing up working systems they don't like.


There are always up and down in the bitcoin market and lets just accept the fact that we can never bring back the lost bitcoin from bitfinex. Thats why there is a need for the government to take part and regulate bitcoins which means that all users will have a one wallet that is verified and no one can make transactions without being registered while blocking all unregistered wallets online.


What a genius idea. The government should also keep a copy of each private key, just in case someone loses his key. Oh and why not pass this responsible task to a central bank, they know how to deal with money best from long years experience.  Tongue  

Maybe Fiat is a better deal for you ?
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August 04, 2016, 09:26:22 AM
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yes some thing must be wrong there, there funds must be stolen and they will be trying how to recover it, and that is the reason that it has a bad effect on all the other exchanges, bitcoin is also influenced by bitfinex, but hope that the price of bitcoin will recover very soon, and hope that this time the price of bitcoin will even cross its previous position.
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August 04, 2016, 09:28:44 AM
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yes some thing must be wrong there, there funds must be stolen and they will be trying how to recover it, and that is the reason that it has a bad effect on all the other exchanges, bitcoin is also influenced by bitfinex, but hope that the price of bitcoin will recover very soon, and hope that this time the price of bitcoin will even cross its previous position.

I think this may be influencing the price of the bitcoin. But this will not last long, because that affects the price of the bitcoin is actually of requests market and also mines. I think it is indeed a bitfinex should be held accountable and restore all the missing funds because of that event, because bitfinex does not do a good enough safeguards to keep all BTC that they hold
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August 04, 2016, 09:37:22 AM
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yes some thing must be wrong there, there funds must be stolen and they will be trying how to recover it, and that is the reason that it has a bad effect on all the other exchanges, bitcoin is also influenced by bitfinex, but hope that the price of bitcoin will recover very soon, and hope that this time the price of bitcoin will even cross its previous position.

I think this may be influencing the price of the bitcoin. But this will not last long, because that affects the price of the bitcoin is actually of requests market and also mines. I think it is indeed a bitfinex should be held accountable and restore all the missing funds because of that event, because bitfinex does not do a good enough safeguards to keep all BTC that they hold
yup bitfinex is accountable with the lost and i just hope they can settle it right away bitcoin price has been shaken by that hack and insuring those client might results to a positive feedback, in terms of bitcoin the price will bounce back for sure as we know how bitcoin work for us, if not maybe many of us right now is moving away already.

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August 04, 2016, 10:23:38 AM
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This is very bad what's happening today, bitcoin price drops down.

Bitcoin is very good for trading but as you see, it's distinguish feature from other type of currencies is that it's anonym and hard to find sender and reciever's identify. It's both very good and very bad property of bitcoin. The person who has much bitcoin and is mining it's half or over, can control it's price but I hope bitcoin's price will go higher in one month.
I'm interested if the hacker would actually want to reveal himself and have to accept that offer. That'd be a risky move for him. But for the sake of restoring faith on bitcoin exchanges, he must either surrender or be caught by police. We should not give room for people loosing their faith.
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August 04, 2016, 10:35:10 AM
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Had 100k+ on Bitfinex, margin funding Usd@ 0.03 auto renewal 2 days.
Does anyone know @ how much margin funding was when it shut down?
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August 04, 2016, 10:42:51 AM
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yes some thing must be wrong there, there funds must be stolen and they will be trying how to recover it, and that is the reason that it has a bad effect on all the other exchanges, bitcoin is also influenced by bitfinex, but hope that the price of bitcoin will recover very soon, and hope that this time the price of bitcoin will even cross its previous position.
Every time that had bad happen bitcoin  the price of it going down how I wish that all the lost of bitfinex will recover as soon as possible. But it will hard to do it, it will not be easy to recover back again. What was happen to bitfinex will get bad effect in any exchanger.

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August 04, 2016, 10:56:10 AM
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they are hacked by themself  Grin

what proof do you have? are you a staff member of that exchange?

If you're stupid enough to keep your coins on an illegal exchange, then you deserve to have your coin's stolen. This was probably a good thing.

No this is not. people who lost money is a another thing. but you should not forget that this is effecting bitcoin price so badly. so anyone who stored their coins in the exchange lost money and anyone who have bitcoin are also being in lost some how because of the price drops.



I found some Interesting facts want to share here:

a newbie user giving away 1000 bitcoins for free here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574127.0

just read the OP's name and make it upside down.. You'll see the name will show like this: Bfxhacker = Bitfinex Hacker does this mean the hacker stolen all money and giving them away or he may belong to the hacker team somehow..

the balance of that user's wallet are from 2013, this thing make me confused.
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August 04, 2016, 11:21:10 AM
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they are hacked by themself  Grin

what proof do you have? are you a staff member of that exchange?

If you're stupid enough to keep your coins on an illegal exchange, then you deserve to have your coin's stolen. This was probably a good thing.

No this is not. people who lost money is a another thing. but you should not forget that this is effecting bitcoin price so badly. so anyone who stored their coins in the exchange lost money and anyone who have bitcoin are also being in lost some how because of the price drops.



I found some Interesting facts want to share here:

a newbie user giving away 1000 bitcoins for free here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574127.0

just read the OP's name and make it upside down.. You'll see the name will show like this: Bfxhacker = Bitfinex Hacker does this mean the hacker stolen all money and giving them away or he may belong to the hacker team somehow..

the balance of that user's wallet are from 2013, this thing make me confused.


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August 04, 2016, 11:26:40 AM
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they are hacked by themself  Grin

what proof do you have? are you a staff member of that exchange?

If you're stupid enough to keep your coins on an illegal exchange, then you deserve to have your coin's stolen. This was probably a good thing.

No this is not. people who lost money is a another thing. but you should not forget that this is effecting bitcoin price so badly. so anyone who stored their coins in the exchange lost money and anyone who have bitcoin are also being in lost some how because of the price drops.



I found some Interesting facts want to share here:

a newbie user giving away 1000 bitcoins for free here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1574127.0

just read the OP's name and make it upside down.. You'll see the name will show like this: Bfxhacker = Bitfinex Hacker does this mean the hacker stolen all money and giving them away or he may belong to the hacker team somehow..

the balance of that user's wallet are from 2013, this thing make me confused.


Caused mass new account creation!
well bitfinex hacking just happen recently and if the hacker were keeping the bitcoin on the bitfinex's cold storage address which was made 3 years ago and don't move it, it's just seems impossible because bitfinex must have the privkey backup,so it's mean no evidence uptill now that the funds is owned by bitfinex orignally

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