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March 31, 2013, 04:05:11 PM |
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As this is Easter Sunday, I am spending this afternoon with my family.
Everything will need to be put on hold until this evening.
Please refrain from buying and selling shares until I have a chance to go over the numbers and figure out what is wrong.
Thanks,
Ch
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March 31, 2013, 04:15:04 PM |
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CoinHoarder, Hey, I just checked your ownership spreadsheet and you have me down as 53.099 coins, but to my reckoning I only invested 50 BTC. I think you added my payment of 3.1 twice 2013-03-25 09:49:02 PAYMENT RECEIVED 1 0 248572c5aea14beb4669168eda7fc187ee0218e5bd8bd63316f1114b8dfbd82e Spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 09:51:03 PAYMENT RECEIVED 19 0 1515629aec7aabf120ad86bf2d1d63235149c68835c1d225209d0749cdd27165 Spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 11:42:03 PAYMENT RECEIVED 20 0 8064252c3a58eae24c4305057e7f1bb28b8bec45aae36a510dd598d671f695e1 spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 13:43:24 PAYMENT SENT 0 17.497 5062a5127fd1da2534e7cb9425be24b667e9b7ddff5b9ef854ded2bf92a127bb spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 23:23:03 PAYMENT RECEIVED 3.1 0 7052ee6db7cb8389747a515214bf8c2748207e5d6b979bc8b6a87d1d21dfe5c5 spinner 1Ec3p5MDk4ec3J2QuJEatoQmoTX9AjUcJJ 2013-03-26 04:49:06 PAYMENT RECEIVED 35 0 3095e730f90451b39cc9864636bac8bd37b0c4718263f6ad172a6e74c23c6c86 spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-26 21:57:09 PAYMENT SENT 0 7.504 735a652c9829ff3328be6566ea7feb3107a9a977f44e1b90b4369e52c698ba76 spinner 1Ec3p5MDk4ec3J2QuJEatoQmoTX9AjUcJJ
I'd be glad to take them, but rather get it fixed now. It'd be a mess if this were exposed after mining. Incoming: 1+19+20+3.1+35 -> 78.1 Outgoing: 17.497 + 7.504 -> 25.001 That would add up to 53.099 wouldn't it? If the 3.1 isn't yours, then the 7.504 would be too much refunded as well to that address?
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mrbrt
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March 31, 2013, 04:16:04 PM |
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If you need someone to send an additional 3.099BTC I'll gladly volunteer.
Hehe, I will go over it now, we should have raised enough BTC to buy all Avalons, as I created this address for this specific purpose. I am hoping it was just a simple mistake when doing the math on one of the shares. Hah yeah - thanks for the great work dude
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March 31, 2013, 04:27:27 PM |
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In ownership percentages excel... i calculated my share and found its a bit different because the sum is a different one than the price of 7 avalons. 722,7025BTC is the price but the sum is 719,6035BTC. That shouldnt be possible i think.
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March 31, 2013, 04:31:36 PM |
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In ownership percentages excel... i calculated my share and found its a bit different because the sum is a different one than the price of 7 avalons. 722,7025BTC is the price but the sum is 719,6035BTC. That shouldnt be possible i think.
That's probably because the sheet was updated with spinner's mysterious 3.1BTC.
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March 31, 2013, 04:33:33 PM |
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CoinHoarder, Hey, I just checked your ownership spreadsheet and you have me down as 53.099 coins, but to my reckoning I only invested 50 BTC. I think you added my payment of 3.1 twice 2013-03-25 09:49:02 PAYMENT RECEIVED 1 0 248572c5aea14beb4669168eda7fc187ee0218e5bd8bd63316f1114b8dfbd82e Spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 09:51:03 PAYMENT RECEIVED 19 0 1515629aec7aabf120ad86bf2d1d63235149c68835c1d225209d0749cdd27165 Spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 11:42:03 PAYMENT RECEIVED 20 0 8064252c3a58eae24c4305057e7f1bb28b8bec45aae36a510dd598d671f695e1 spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 13:43:24 PAYMENT SENT 0 17.497 5062a5127fd1da2534e7cb9425be24b667e9b7ddff5b9ef854ded2bf92a127bb spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 23:23:03 PAYMENT RECEIVED 3.1 0 7052ee6db7cb8389747a515214bf8c2748207e5d6b979bc8b6a87d1d21dfe5c5 spinner 1Ec3p5MDk4ec3J2QuJEatoQmoTX9AjUcJJ 2013-03-26 04:49:06 PAYMENT RECEIVED 35 0 3095e730f90451b39cc9864636bac8bd37b0c4718263f6ad172a6e74c23c6c86 spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-26 21:57:09 PAYMENT SENT 0 7.504 735a652c9829ff3328be6566ea7feb3107a9a977f44e1b90b4369e52c698ba76 spinner 1Ec3p5MDk4ec3J2QuJEatoQmoTX9AjUcJJ
I'd be glad to take them, but rather get it fixed now. It'd be a mess if this were exposed after mining. Thank you for bringing this to my attention. I have corrected this, however, that messes up our our ownership percentages. I need to go back through and see what else I messed up on, because now we are short 3.099 BTC. Thanks, Ch I'm not sure, but I think if you calculate everything in Satoshs then you shouldn't have a much more accurate percentage map.
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March 31, 2013, 04:39:32 PM |
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In ownership percentages excel... i calculated my share and found its a bit different because the sum is a different one than the price of 7 avalons. 722,7025BTC is the price but the sum is 719,6035BTC. That shouldnt be possible i think.
That's probably because the sheet was updated with spinner's mysterious 3.1BTC. 3.101BTC then. I searched all pages of this thread and only found 2 posts that had such value: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157930.msg1676001#msg1676001https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157930.msg1676396#msg1676396A bit strange if coinhoarded didnt accidentally order the avalon from his own money partly.
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March 31, 2013, 04:46:28 PM |
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The difference is actually 3.099BTC. If I compare this current version of the sheet with the one I have locally, spinner goes from a share of 53.099 to a share of 50.
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March 31, 2013, 04:47:27 PM |
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How about SEV-ALON for group name ?
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mrbrt
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March 31, 2013, 07:00:17 PM |
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How about SEV-ALON for group name ? How about Pediatric Hospice? Something lighthearted and fun....
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matt608
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March 31, 2013, 07:06:03 PM |
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How about SEV-ALON for group name ? How about Pediatric Hospice? Something lighthearted and fun.... Perhaps CoinHoarder's house should be called "Moria", ("and they call it a mine!" - Gimli) which would make us the dwarfs. Someone else earlier said we should be called the 7 dwarfs, so I'm therefore in favor of fantasy dwarf related names. We could always outsource the naming, it's too important to screw up
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March 31, 2013, 08:15:09 PM |
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CoinHoarder, Hey, I just checked your ownership spreadsheet and you have me down as 53.099 coins, but to my reckoning I only invested 50 BTC. I think you added my payment of 3.1 twice 2013-03-25 09:49:02 PAYMENT RECEIVED 1 0 248572c5aea14beb4669168eda7fc187ee0218e5bd8bd63316f1114b8dfbd82e Spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 09:51:03 PAYMENT RECEIVED 19 0 1515629aec7aabf120ad86bf2d1d63235149c68835c1d225209d0749cdd27165 Spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 11:42:03 PAYMENT RECEIVED 20 0 8064252c3a58eae24c4305057e7f1bb28b8bec45aae36a510dd598d671f695e1 spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 13:43:24 PAYMENT SENT 0 17.497 5062a5127fd1da2534e7cb9425be24b667e9b7ddff5b9ef854ded2bf92a127bb spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-25 23:23:03 PAYMENT RECEIVED 3.1 0 7052ee6db7cb8389747a515214bf8c2748207e5d6b979bc8b6a87d1d21dfe5c5 spinner 1Ec3p5MDk4ec3J2QuJEatoQmoTX9AjUcJJ 2013-03-26 04:49:06 PAYMENT RECEIVED 35 0 3095e730f90451b39cc9864636bac8bd37b0c4718263f6ad172a6e74c23c6c86 spinner 15hGBYyvfYWGhm8Ts58wohoqGwf7xwyoUJ 2013-03-26 21:57:09 PAYMENT SENT 0 7.504 735a652c9829ff3328be6566ea7feb3107a9a977f44e1b90b4369e52c698ba76 spinner 1Ec3p5MDk4ec3J2QuJEatoQmoTX9AjUcJJ
I'd be glad to take them, but rather get it fixed now. It'd be a mess if this were exposed after mining. Incoming: 1+19+20+3.1+35 -> 78.1 Outgoing: 17.497 + 7.504 -> 25.001 That would add up to 53.099 wouldn't it? If the 3.1 isn't yours, then the 7.504 would be too much refunded as well to that address? Hmm, yup. It adds up now. I guess I must not have seen the 3.1 the first time I checked your math. I definitely sent it though. My post is here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=157930.msg1676396#msg1676396This morning without rechecking the math I blindly copied and pasted from the Avalon Group Buy Transaction spreadsheet and just assumed that you included the 3.1 twice. Sorry about the confusion. I had thought I purchased a total of 50 btc, but I'd like to reclaim the 3.1 if that's ok. It means your percentages won't have to be recalculated that is if you save revisions of this document. You should check out Google docs, which takes care of the for you.
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March 31, 2013, 08:40:32 PM Last edit: March 31, 2013, 09:46:15 PM by W-M |
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Lets make a quick list of important information placed in this thread thus far: Name suggestions:-the Magnificent Seven (profMac) -the Seven Samurai (cryptojournal) -Bebop Batch Miners (W-M) -(CoinHoarder and the) Seven Dwarfs(koquillion) -SEV-ALON (silvercoins) -Pediatric Hospice (mrbrt) -Moria (matt608) Willing to buy shares:- bitrocket - cryptojournal - dchou - ibminer - khamark - koquillion - silvercoins - skyhigh2004 -W-M (for whatever reason my post went under the radar before) -mrbrt -ThingNL Wanting to sell shares:- Rampion (2BTC) - TheJuice (partial) The investors-only-forum is online on http://yourcoins.org/forums/index.php. Accounts will be verified by CoinHoarder when sending the email you registered your account with to him in a PM here on BitcoinTalk. (He will start unlocking accounts at the end of this day, because of Easter) EDIT: Added mrbrt and ThingNL to the buyers list.
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March 31, 2013, 09:00:03 PM |
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I'm willing to buy/invest more depending on price....
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March 31, 2013, 09:01:54 PM |
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-W-M (for whatever reason my post went under the radar before)
Whoops
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March 31, 2013, 09:09:19 PM |
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-W-M (for whatever reason my post went under the radar before)
Whoops Ah man, it was kind of a long post and I might not have stated it very clearly. Stuff like this can happen, we are humans after all . All fixed now, right?
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March 31, 2013, 09:10:15 PM |
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So, I think that we are in agreement the missing 3.099 BTC interest belongs to Spinner. I guess I did not make an error in my math after all. I should of checked earlier to make sure, but I figured he wouldn't of told me he owns 3.099 BTC less than he actually does if he wasn't sure. I will credit him back this amount.
He wants to sell this 3.099 BTC share according to his post above, so I'll let you guys negotiate that with him.
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March 31, 2013, 09:49:43 PM |
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Thanks for all the interest in my shares (sorry for the slow responses to the PMs - I was spending time with the family). Shows that confidence we all have in CH. To increase transparency, I've started an auction thread at: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=162740.0The current high bid is 1.7x. I was away for the Holiday and multiple users bid that price. This auction will last ~48 hours. It will end on 4/2/13 @ 10PM. Again, great work CH/team! TheJuice
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March 31, 2013, 10:22:38 PM |
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I have setup the basic structure of our forums with a few different threads with specific purposes and important information is stickyied. I would like it if we could slowly move all conversation over there, because it will help us stay organized and let people find important information quicker. If you have not already done so, please register on our forums and PM me or Relm9 the email address you're registering from so I can verify your identity. Forums are here: http://yourcoins.org/forums/Thanks ya'll Happy Easter!
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March 31, 2013, 10:23:10 PM |
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One comment:
If you're selling to an outside investor, I think you should sell all your shares. Else, you are adding more investors, which leads to more payment hassle.
If you're selling to an existing group member, split away.
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