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January 12, 2017, 10:10:31 AM
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In return, I helped him build a 6x480 rig using a 4U case which I was also interested in before this Panda came by.


 That case pictured, *IF* it is rack mountable, appears to be an 8U case.
 It's not even CLOSE to being a 4U case.

 By specification, a 4U case cannot be more than 7" in height.


You are right Quintleo,  just rang up my friend and confirmed that the chassis dimensions.
It is also rack mountable, when he came to visit he didnt bring the rack mount kit.

Color: black panel, white box
Material: panel SGCC all black sand grain, box 1.2 mm thick steel plate
Dimensions: 420mm*440mm*311mm (length * width * height)
Motherboard: ATX 12 "*9.6" (305mm*244mm)
Power supply: two ATX standard desktop power supply
Graphics: the maximum can be loaded with 7 340mm length of the card
Hard disk: 3*3.5 hard drive or 6*2.5 drive
Heat dissipation: 12 6 double ball high power fan
Package size: 580*580*425mm (length * width * high) packing / double double carton
Weight: 15.2kg

https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Rack-type-GPU-machine-multi-card-case-dual-power-card-heat-dissipation/32750205586.html?

Great Build - Good Looking!  Have you taken a look at the gpu temps/fan speeds yet?  This would be a Push system (the fans push the air into the rig) and air escaped through the least resistance.


Temps are low to mid 70s C, fan speed.... from console I can see % which is hardly max; 50-60%

Fans RPM -- no idea how get this out from Linux-SM

The chassis is big and heavy -- and has plenty of room.

I can feel the air flow out from the back vents.

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Nice rig !

Care to share the rig case brand/model ? Also same for this AriesIV case (tried to look for it @google but didn't find it)

AriesIV case is in his sig - I think thats a better build compared to this one.

I posted this 4U 8U chassis link in my earlier post.

The Sapphire 480s Reference are modded for ETH Eliovp's 29MH-low energy rom, so the cards are cool & steady currently mining ZEC. I sold him these cards from my current farm.

Frankly....  after building this rig with him the whole day, with fair share of drama (the rig failed to POST the first few times)..... I appreciate the Panda even more.

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Nice rig !

Care to share the rig case brand/model ? Also same for this AriesIV case (tried to look for it @google but didn't find it)

AriesIV case is in his sig - I think thats a better build compared to this one.

I posted this 4U 8U chassis link in my earlier post.

The Sapphire 480s Reference are modded for ETH Eliovp's 29MH-low energy rom, so the cards are cool & steady currently mining ZEC. I sold him these cards from my current farm.

Frankly....  after building this rig with him the whole day, with fair share of drama (the rig failed to POST the first few times)..... I appreciate the Panda even more.

Thx citronix Smiley

Well the pandaminer is interesting yes, but again warranty and the starting price make me quite wary of the system (and also the fact that out of box it's pretty useless, you have to have eliovp linux/mod), but im happy to see people content with it, it's a very interesting piece of hardware for sure !

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January 12, 2017, 11:07:50 AM
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Nice rig !

Care to share the rig case brand/model ? Also same for this AriesIV case (tried to look for it @google but didn't find it)

AriesIV case is in his sig - I think thats a better build compared to this one.

I posted this 4U 8U chassis link in my earlier post.

The Sapphire 480s Reference are modded for ETH Eliovp's 29MH-low energy rom, so the cards are cool & steady currently mining ZEC. I sold him these cards from my current farm.

Frankly....  after building this rig with him the whole day, with fair share of drama (the rig failed to POST the first few times)..... I appreciate the Panda even more.

Thx citronix Smiley

Well the pandaminer is interesting yes, but again warranty and the starting price make me quite wary of the system (and also the fact that out of box it's pretty useless, you have to have eliovp linux/mod), but im happy to see people content with it, it's a very interesting piece of hardware for sure !

citronick, it is still a cool looking machine!  Gota have "cool" in this business!

Another subject:  
What is the total cost to get the panda miner up and running?  I believe that you will need a psu.  Anything else?


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Nice rig !

Care to share the rig case brand/model ? Also same for this AriesIV case (tried to look for it @google but didn't find it)

AriesIV case is in his sig - I think thats a better build compared to this one.

I posted this 4U 8U chassis link in my earlier post.

The Sapphire 480s Reference are modded for ETH Eliovp's 29MH-low energy rom, so the cards are cool & steady currently mining ZEC. I sold him these cards from my current farm.

Frankly....  after building this rig with him the whole day, with fair share of drama (the rig failed to POST the first few times)..... I appreciate the Panda even more.

Thx citronix Smiley

Well the pandaminer is interesting yes, but again warranty and the starting price make me quite wary of the system (and also the fact that out of box it's pretty useless, you have to have eliovp linux/mod), but im happy to see people content with it, it's a very interesting piece of hardware for sure !

Out of the box -- it is usable to some extent; mining Claymore ETH, XMR, ZEC, multialgo etc. but on Windows 10-Ent.

However, to make this into a better; efficient power consumption, stable and reliable, lights out, 24x7 miner for GPU farms - it's better to replace Windows with Linux plus improve the rom mod further with Eliovp's super-mod roms.

My current testing Panda is mining away XMR nicely with a Linux OS, completely headless, and ready to sit in one corner just waiting for Eliovp's PandaLinuxOS.

AriesIV:
Apart from the 2k direct pricing from Panda - the manufacturer - NO middleman or reselling agents.

You need a minimum Gold 1600w PSU if mining ETH. XMR and ZEC, I believe 1300w is enough - Phil has done the tests for power requirements. For me I used an old S7 1600w PSU.

After Eliovp's magic roms, I will not be surprised if we can squeeze a good brand 1000w PSU to get the Panda going.

No messing around with PCI-USB risers, etc. Time to deploy is very fast.

And you need to factor in DHL/Fedex/UPS and the customs duty.

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Out of the box -- it is usable to some extent; mining Claymore ETH, XMR, ZEC, multialgo etc. but on Windows 10-Ent.



Let me disagree with that. Based on 3 "reviews" (short answers) from owners - from the box the miner will mine stably only ZEC and XMR.

1 owner from 3 got stable mining with ETH after changing Win 10 ETPR from the miner to his own licenced copy

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Out of the box -- it is usable to some extent; mining Claymore ETH, XMR, ZEC, multialgo etc. but on Windows 10-Ent.



Let me disagree with that. Based on 3 "reviews" (short answers) from owners - from the box the miner will mine stably only ZEC and XMR.

1 owner from 3 got stable mining with ETH after changing Win 10 ETPR from the miner to his own licenced copy

Yeah also stable for ZEC and XMR but with massive power draw is "working" but not "efficient" Smiley but i'll keep my eye on it, hardware wise it's really interesting !

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Nice rig !

Care to share the rig case brand/model ? Also same for this AriesIV case (tried to look for it @google but didn't find it)

AriesIV case is in his sig - I think thats a better build compared to this one.

I posted this 4U 8U chassis link in my earlier post.

The Sapphire 480s Reference are modded for ETH Eliovp's 29MH-low energy rom, so the cards are cool & steady currently mining ZEC. I sold him these cards from my current farm.

Frankly....  after building this rig with him the whole day, with fair share of drama (the rig failed to POST the first few times)..... I appreciate the Panda even more.

I see one advantage to your case is that it looks like you can put two power supplies in there in case you have power hungry cards or you can use two smaller power supplies over a giant power supply.

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Nice rig !

Care to share the rig case brand/model ? Also same for this AriesIV case (tried to look for it @google but didn't find it)

AriesIV case is in his sig - I think thats a better build compared to this one.

I posted this 4U 8U chassis link in my earlier post.

The Sapphire 480s Reference are modded for ETH Eliovp's 29MH-low energy rom, so the cards are cool & steady currently mining ZEC. I sold him these cards from my current farm.

Frankly....  after building this rig with him the whole day, with fair share of drama (the rig failed to POST the first few times)..... I appreciate the Panda even more.

I see one advantage to your case is that it looks like you can put two power supplies in there in case you have power hungry cards or you can use two smaller power supplies over a giant power supply.

Yeah this actually interest me because i like doing dual-psu rigs, they're cheaper to build, because you save on big powerful PSU's and on adapters for cabling. Sadly the case is a bit too expensive Sad that was a nice idea thought

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Just to let ya know, Claymore said this yesterday for Zcash (ZEC)

"I will release new version with good speedup within 24 hours."

Geeze lol! Why does he keep spending 95% of his time on ZEC when it has been well below both ETH & XMR in mining profitability for many weeks in a row now?  Yeah, I get that there is not much more room for improvement with ETH mining but XMR seems to have some room, esp for 470/480's, since those were not even out when he made his XMR GPU miner.

 Per Wolf0, there is NOT much room if any for significant optimisation on XMR for the 470/480 series, the current miners are already well optimised.

 ZEC on the other hand still has quite a bit of room for optimisation it would appear.



hmmm.. that's interesting coming from the guy (Wolf) who keeps posting that he is getting 800-820 H/s from 470s but of course, won't divulge how lol.  While there may be some truth to it, just curious why Claymore himself hasn't mentioned this on his own XMR miner thread, but I guess we will see.

I did see that Claymore just released ZEC v11.  Can anyone report their speeds using 470's on it (please specify modded or non-modded ROMs)?  ZEC keeps showing as far less profitable to mine for me vs ETH & XMR, but I realized that I am still using the 200 S/s benchmark I was getting with V8 I think.  I know Claymore has been focusing on improving the 390/290 speeds and he rarely mentions 470/480s in his updates, so wondering if 470s have at least seen a marginal increase over that 200 I was getting a few versions back.  At least at this point with prices/diff, I could justify switching my ETH rig over to ZEC if I were able to get about 250 S/s per modded 470.  Looking to switch rig #2 off ZEC while I am out of town since I am not that comfortable with a rig running that hot while I am away.
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v11 was "add asm code for specific older GPUs", no change for RX series from v10.

Claymore DID mention he was still working on upgrades for the RX series, probably asm as well.


 ZEC seems to be getting fairly close to full optimised, when the coders are having to go to GCN Asssembly code to get any further upgrades in speed.

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v11 was "add asm code for specific older GPUs", no change for RX series from v10.

Claymore DID mention he was still working on upgrades for the RX series, probably asm as well.


 ZEC seems to be getting fairly close to full optimised, when the coders are having to go to GCN Asssembly code to get any further upgrades in speed.



Ah ok, makes sense.  I actually went ahead and downloaded and started running v11 before I read this and it seems to be working on with my 6x470 rig.  My 5x modded MSIs are getting about 230 per card, while my orphan Nitro 8GB OC (non-modded) is doing a bit better at 245 S/s.  So, getting a bit over 1380 S/s using 800W total for GPUs.  I left the settings the same as for ETH mining... so 1150/1950 with - voltage offset down to about the 1050 range on the 5 MSIs.  Still, even using a full 100w less than ETH, my profit on ZEC is less than both ETH or XMR at about $4.05/day on this rig. XMR is actually right around that mark right now but ETH is about 10% better than both, despite the recent explosion in difficulty.

Anyway, I will probably let this run for a few hours to make sure it's stable then switch back to ETH until I go out of town. That rig runs soooo much cooler on ZEC... and XMR for that matter, but I like to split up my mining most of the time, especially when the profits are reasonable close.

Bottom line on ZEC, I was pleasantly surprised to see my 470's getting in the 230 range. If indeed Claymore can squeeze more out of them in his next rev, that will make the decision to switch to ZEC for a while easier.

edit: and of course, very shortly after i post this, ZEC profitability plummets due to almost 50% diff spike lol.  Seriously, not sure how you ZEC miners deal with this BS lol. I get why those with old cards do it since it is still their best (only) option, but the 470/480 crowd I would think would shy away from this at this point. Unless of course you're expecting ZEC to tremendously outperform ETH/XMR in the near future ;-)


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Phil....

On the Biostar Z170 motherboard, what does the code "3C" and "AO" on the LEDs mean?

Is there a table for the code values and description?

I tried googling it and also Biostar website but no luck.

The rigs are working fine though, but out of the 5 x Z170s, 2 are with "3C" and the rest "AO" codes on the LEDs.

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Phil....

On the Biostar Z170 motherboard, what does the code "3C" and "AO" on the LEDs mean?

Is there a table for the code values and description?

I tried googling it and also Biostar website but no luck.

The rigs are working fine though, but out of the 5 x Z170s, 2 are with "3C" and the rest "AO" codes on the LEDs.

Thanks

A0 means good boot.  If I don't get an A0 I get no screen just black.

Give me a minute I think I know the 3c code
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http://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en-us/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=807#download



10
PEI Core is started
11
Pre-memory CPU initialization is started
15
Pre-memory North Bridge initialization is started
19
Pre-memory South Bridge initialization is started
2B
Memory initialization. Serial Presence Detect (SPD) data reading
2C
Memory initialization. Memory presence detection
2D
Memory initialization. Programming memory timing information
2E
Memory initialization. Configuring memory
2F
Memory initialization (other).
31
Memory Installed
32
CPU post-memory initialization is started
33
CPU post-memory initialization. Cache initialization
34
CPU post-memory initialization. Application Processor(s) (AP) initialization
35
CPU post-memory initialization. Boot Strap Processor (BSP) selection
36
CPU post-memory initialization. System Management Mode (SMM) initialization
37
Post-Memory North Bridge initialization is started
3B
Post-Memory North Bridge initialization (North Bridge module specific)
4F
DXE IPL is started
60
DXE Core is started
F0
Recovery condition triggered by firmware (Auto recovery)
F1
Recovery condition triggered by user (Forced recovery)
F2
Recovery process started
F3
Recovery firmware image is found
F4
Recovery firmware image is loaded
E0
S3 Resume is stared (S3 Resume PPI is called by the DXE IPL)
E1
S3 Boot Script execution
E2
Video repost
E3
OS S3 wake vector call
60
DXE Core is started
61
NVRAM initialization
62
Installation of the South Bridge Runtime Services
63
CPU DXE initialization is started
68
PCI host bridge initialization
69
North Bridge DXE initialization is started
6A
North Bridge DXE SMM initialization is started
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South Bridge DXE initialization is started
71
South Bridge DXE SMM initialization is started
72
South Bridge devices initialization
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South Bridge DXE Initialization (South Bridge module specific)
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ACPI module initialization
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Boot Device Selection (BDS) phase is started
91
Driver connecting is started
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PCI Bus initialization is started
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PCI Bus Hot Plug Controller Initialization
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PCI Bus Enumeration
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PCI Bus Request Resources
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PCI Bus Assign Resources
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Console Output devices connect
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Console input devices connect
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Super IO Initialization
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9B
USB Reset
9C
USB Detect
9D
USB Enable
A0
IDE initialization is started

A1
IDE Reset
A2
IDE Detect
A3
IDE Enable
A4
SCSI initialization is started
A5
SCSI Reset
A6
SCSI Detect
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SCSI Enable
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Setup Verifying Password
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Start of Setup
AB
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AD
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AE
Legacy Boot event
AF
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B0
Runtime Set Virtual Address MAP Begin
B1
Runtime Set Virtual Address MAP End
B2
Legacy Option ROM Initialization
B3
System Reset
B4
USB hot plug
B5
PCI bus hot plug
B6
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B7
Configuration Reset (reset of NVRAM settings)


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Phil....

On the Biostar Z170 motherboard, what does the code "3C" and "AO" on the LEDs mean?

Is there a table for the code values and description?

I tried googling it and also Biostar website but no luck.

The rigs are working fine though, but out of the 5 x Z170s, 2 are with "3C" and the rest "AO" codes on the LEDs.

Thanks

A0 means good boot.  If I don't get an A0 I get no screen just black.

Give me a minute I think I know the 3c code
downloads


I found the A0  but not the 3C

http://www.biostar-usa.com/app/en-us/mb/introduction.php?S_ID=807#download



10
PEI Core is started
11
Pre-memory CPU initialization is started
15
Pre-memory North Bridge initialization is started
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Configuration Reset (reset of NVRAM settings)



Thanks!

Since all working ok - nothing out of ordinary except for the "3C" or could it "C3" depending on view position.... I will just do a "if it aint broke, dont fix it" approach.

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meanwhile.... got this in the mail.

Dear customer,
Bitmain team is contacting you as per your request for the new batch of the Antminer R4.
We are glad to inform you that new batches of R4 with a hashrate of 7.5TH and 8.7TH (including price,specification and shipping cost) will be available on 13th of January, 11PM (Beijing time). They will be available to purchase on this link after the scheduled time.
Only Bitcoin will be accepted as a payment method for these batches.
When you enter your order our system calculates the shipping cost based on the items that you order, the destination and the shipper that you select. You will see the shipping cost and can make changes before you confirm your order.
For more information on how to place your order please see this article on our website.
Once an order has been paid it cannot be cancelled.
Furthermore, please note that we will not release the next batch of the Antminer series before end of the Chinese New Year holiday i.e. 10th February 2017.
Please let us know via support.bitmain.com if you have additional questions or concerns.
Thanks for your patience and wish you a promising 2017!
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meanwhile.... got this in the mail.

Dear customer,
Bitmain team is contacting you as per your request for the new batch of the Antminer R4.
We are glad to inform you that new batches of R4 with a hashrate of 7.5TH and 8.7TH (including price,specification and shipping cost) will be available on 13th of January, 11PM (Beijing time). They will be available to purchase on this link after the scheduled time.
Only Bitcoin will be accepted as a payment method for these batches.
When you enter your order our system calculates the shipping cost based on the items that you order, the destination and the shipper that you select. You will see the shipping cost and can make changes before you confirm your order.
For more information on how to place your order please see this article on our website.
Once an order has been paid it cannot be cancelled.
Furthermore, please note that we will not release the next batch of the Antminer series before end of the Chinese New Year holiday i.e. 10th February 2017.
Please let us know via support.bitmain.com if you have additional questions or concerns.
Thanks for your patience and wish you a promising 2017!
Best Regards,
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11PM (Beijing time) should be 10am EST; although this will not help me.  I am not looking for a R4, I am looking for more S9s....

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I have finally put aside the Panda to a corner just above my buddy's 8U case.

Both are mining XMR currently on sm-linux sgminer 5.5.4 - headless and mid 60s C during the day and mid 50s C during the night.

Reflecting on the 2 builds, time spent to make it work, cost of components, troubleshooting, bandaids on my fingers, etc....
I think the Panda is worth the investment.

Now just waiting for Eliovp's magic PandaLinuxOS.

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I have finally put aside the Panda to a corner just above my buddy's 8U case.

Both are mining XMR currently on sm-linux sgminer 5.5.4 - headless and mid 60s C during the day and mid 50s C during the night.

Reflecting on the 2 builds, time spent to make it work, cost of components, troubleshooting, bandaids on my fingers, etc....
I think the Panda is worth the investment.

Now just waiting for Eliovp's magic PandaLinuxOS.

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January 13, 2017, 04:14:21 PM
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meanwhile.... got this in the mail.

Dear customer,

xxx

Bitmain team

Citronick, did you receive that mail because you were already a Bitmain customer ?

I odered some spare parts from them but didn't get this mail.
Just curious.

EDIT : sorry for the previous typo, message didn't mean anything
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