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August 16, 2016, 08:56:59 AM Last edit: August 26, 2016, 02:55:44 PM by scammerdie |
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Unmoderated OPAIR thread, many suspicous or proofs are listed here in this thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1570330.0OP is self-moderated https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1558596.0Reasons: 1. Was no escrow, after investors accused it, OP used escrow, but the first round of ico about 70 btc were not sent to escrow service. So Most of the btc fund is still NO escrow!!! 2. Fake LinkedIn pages, Frank H. Rettig (CEO / Founder) https://www.linkedin.com/in/frankhrettigHao Wang (Core / Platform Developer) https://www.linkedin.com/in/haowanggno more info about 2 devs: Frank and Hao in google, This is one HAO WANG, but he is not the dev, although their CVs look same. http://www-scf.usc.edu/~haowang/index.phpI suspect wasserman(Opair OP) stole this CV and modified. I contacted the address in the webpage, but no email replied 3. Refuse interview&google hangout, wasserman(Opair OP) claimed they afraid personal attack, and no time(WTF, you want 700 btc but you don't have 1 hour time? And who will attack you if you devs are real, big lie!!!) 4. CEO said he was watching BCT forum since 2012, while he is a passive reader, he has NO BCT account. (WTF, how is possible? Obvious lie) 5. CEO's statement about OPAIR https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/opair-statement-frank-h-rettig?articleId=6165182611577651200#comments-6165182611577651200&trk=prof-postI can't read Germany but I use Google translate to translat it into English, it said that we can contact him by email, but a German lawyer contacted him many times, no replied.
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kellendil
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August 16, 2016, 09:18:00 AM |
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İ wrote many things about the scammy İCO but he has group of members in his moderated thread where they protect the SCAM İCO. The kooke guy for example. The devs dont exist thats why they cant make a live stream video. Faked linkedin accounts. Only the second part where no money is located is in escrow :DD Btw one more funny fact. Just go to the slack channel and look at FAKE FRANK's profile there. His mail adress was video@opair or something like that. He didnt even open a seperate account for his fake dev İ dont know if its still like that because i got banned there too like in the original thread.
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Ayoung
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August 16, 2016, 09:23:06 AM |
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until now still progress, signature campaign is still run maybe is next month is wait and see, is until signature campaign is paid and send coin wait is ready added market placed exchager
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August 16, 2016, 09:34:31 AM |
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until now still progress, signature campaign is still run maybe is next month is wait and see, is until signature campaign is paid and send coin wait is ready added market placed exchager
Exactly, they are delivering. His features are promising, his platform works smoothly, they are starting a marketing campaign, they are offering an escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds by parts (milestones, etc), the signature campaign is running and managed by Lutpin.Fudders gona fud no matters what. (It is an extensive video that introduces the project to anyone without prior knowledge. It's worth seeing!) Even, we know that the two features that highlight in our project are the use of functional programming and decentralized debits cards, which both go to be our two main pillars. We are going to focus and develop these characteristics no matter how much funding we get. And if we didnt reach the goal we have only two options (its the truth), do a new ICO or continue with the develop with less funds.
We keep our promise. Time will prove us right. Whoever wants to trust us is welcome.
Regards
PS: If no one wants to invest in our project or wait until the end of ICO to invest are free to do so.
Thanks for your support ! Expansion into China is one of our goals. Amazing as usual!
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christjesus911
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August 16, 2016, 09:36:08 AM |
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Since we have seen so many ICO scams in recent months: Waves= shit ico Rise= shit ico, never below ico price Mentrio=scam Oracle=scam Opair= 99% SCAM Fortunately we have lisk and stratis are very legit and profitable, never under ico price. Not easy to invest ICO now, avoid overvalued ico and no escrow ico.
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violet.project
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August 17, 2016, 07:26:15 AM |
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i try to do private video chat and promise to invest 30btc after that, and he refuse, and haowang and frank are not exist OPAIR is obviously scam also the origin probably from pakistan, i always check any website from hypestat.combesides they always delete my post
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August 17, 2016, 08:12:24 AM Last edit: August 20, 2016, 03:57:58 PM by trilingualme |
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A shitman said I am a shill against opair, wtf how retarded he is.
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iudica
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August 17, 2016, 09:37:12 AM |
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Wasserman has a weird logic: He wrote that a confidental video chat with Frank and me would be to risky for Frank because of his job. This is really crap: 1. I am a lawyer, this mean I am experienced in keeping stuff confidental and it would directly a crime if I won't do it. So it is pretty safe. 2. Frank just need to go online, say hello and show his ID-Card. This 15min never, never could harm any profession or job. 3. How a confidental video chat could still harm his job, if he make a public linkedin profile with his clear name and profession. This things doesn't fit together. 2 other points are, that Frank invited to write him for further question but never anwsered any of my emails and they want to contact a lawyer shortly and never did it. My conclusion is, that Frank's profile is fake. If you check the moderated thread, you can see, that wasserman keep all this FUD-Messages and don't delete it. But my posting, which contains facts and conclusions have been erased instead of correcting it. Btw., he went crazy yesterday via PM. Not unpolite but means we are on the right track.
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BasementRot
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August 17, 2016, 10:48:40 AM |
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.. His features are promising, his platform works smoothly, they are starting a marketing campaign, they are offering an escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds by parts (milestones, etc), the signature campaign is running and managed by Lutpin.
Fudders gona fud no matters what.
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The only problem with the escrow is that they don't have any kind of agreement on milestones. They seem to just be sending SebastianJu the money. What happens if they say "we want all the escrow released to us when the basic wallet and coin are online"? Without a fixed agreement beforehand, how can SebastianJu say no? Without terms, there is no protection, he has to return the money to them because its technically theirs.. right? Frank not proving that he is real or talking to anyone is killing this ICO. No sensible founder would let their ICO suffer this much damage from something so trivial.
I regret my investment.
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August 17, 2016, 10:57:50 AM |
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The self moderated thread which is the original ANN thread does have alot of warnings from users, how come you didn't even bother to question why there are lots of commotion and screaming scam?
Sebastian could demand proof though, hope he will.
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btvGainer
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August 17, 2016, 11:02:37 AM |
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I hope dev satisfactorily asnwer all questions raised here.If they are honest and genuine,ignoring this will only going to hurt their reputation
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wasserman99
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August 17, 2016, 11:13:12 AM |
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until now still progress, signature campaign is still run maybe is next month is wait and see, is until signature campaign is paid and send coin wait is ready added market placed exchager
Exactly, they are delivering. His features are promising, his platform works smoothly, they are starting a marketing campaign, they are offering an escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds by parts (milestones, etc), the signature campaign is running and managed by Lutpin.Fudders gona fud no matters what. (It is an extensive video that introduces the project to anyone without prior knowledge. It's worth seeing!) Even, we know that the two features that highlight in our project are the use of functional programming and decentralized debits cards, which both go to be our two main pillars. We are going to focus and develop these characteristics no matter how much funding we get. And if we didnt reach the goal we have only two options (its the truth), do a new ICO or continue with the develop with less funds.
We keep our promise. Time will prove us right. Whoever wants to trust us is welcome.
Regards
PS: If no one wants to invest in our project or wait until the end of ICO to invest are free to do so.
Thanks for your support ! Expansion into China is one of our goals. Amazing as usual! Thanks for your support !! I hope dev satisfactorily asnwer all questions raised here.If they are honest and genuine,ignoring this will only going to hurt their reputation
There is no question. Everything was clear in our thread. On our team we decided not to make a video interview at this stage of the process and for that we receive attacks from some users. Beyond that there is nothing. Just because we do not make a video call, for the reasons already set up hundreds of times, it does not make us better or worse proposal, just different. We just want to let us work in peace. We are offer a full escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds to us by PARTS!!!!! If we dont deliver or stop develop he will refund to everyone. Even, we know that the two features that highlight in our project are the use of functional programming and decentralized debits cards, which both go to be our two main pillars. We are going to focus and develop these characteristics no matter how much funding we get. We keep our promise. Time will prove us right. Whoever wants to trust us is welcome. Regards PS: If no one wants to invest in our project or wait until the end of ICO to invest are free to do so.
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BasementRot
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August 17, 2016, 11:33:40 AM |
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... Just because we do not make a video call, for the reasons already set up hundreds of times, it does not make us better or worse proposal, just different. ...
Your founder, Frank, has released a picture, full name and employer. How would a video chat compromise his privacy/job? We already know what his face looks like... Your explanation doesn't make sense?
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August 17, 2016, 12:10:59 PM |
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I hope Opair has something new to bring to the table, not just a copy and paste of what has already been done before.
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iudica
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August 17, 2016, 12:59:28 PM |
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Wasserman, it is over! You can paste hundred pictures here and in all other scam-threads, but here you can't just erase the facts.
And your "it was everything clear from the beginning" will not explain, why you made fake profiles.
And at least because you have been so greedy not to ask Mr. Winheller or so selfish not to accept my tax support, approx. 35%- 50% of the whole ICO will be probably taken away by taxes.
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scammerdie (OP)
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August 17, 2016, 04:54:38 PM |
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Wasserman, it is over! You can paste hundred pictures here and in all other scam-threads, but here you can't just erase the facts.
And your "it was everything clear from the beginning" will not explain, why you made fake profiles.
And at least because you have been so greedy not to ask Mr. Winheller or so selfish not to accept my tax support, approx. 35%- 50% of the whole ICO will be probably taken away by taxes.
wasserman is full of bullshits, he is good at lying to new investors, and deleted negative posts.
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violet.project
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August 17, 2016, 04:55:11 PM |
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you guys should give him bad trust with refference to this thread
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wasserman99
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August 17, 2016, 07:27:37 PM Last edit: August 17, 2016, 07:42:26 PM by wasserman99 |
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It is really surprising what is happening here. There are a couple of users who are accusing us with no arguments. They just want our project to fail or I disappear to say that they were right. It is a bit unfair. But we will show them they are wrong and we will draw our platform forward. Fortunately, investors continue to give us their support and dont believe in the accusations of these people.
I hope that third parties can read the thread objectively and draw their own conclusions.
I will repeat my last message, because it is quite clear:
There is no question. Everything was clear in our thread. On our team we decided not to make a video interview at this stage of the process and for that we receive attacks from some users. Beyond that there is nothing.
Just because we do not make a video call, for the reasons already set up hundreds of times, it does not make us better or worse proposal, just different.
We just want to let us work in peace. We are offer a full escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds to us by PARTS!!!!! If we dont deliver or stop develop he will refund to everyone.
Even, we know that the two features that highlight in our project are the use of functional programming and decentralized debits cards, which both go to be our two main pillars. We are going to focus and develop these characteristics no matter how much funding we get.
We keep our promise. Time will prove us right. Whoever wants to trust us is welcome.
Regards
PS: If no one wants to invest in our project or wait until the end of ICO to invest are free to do so.
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kellendil
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August 17, 2016, 09:26:12 PM |
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It is really surprising what is happening here. There are a couple of users who are accusing us with no arguments. They just want our project to fail or I disappear to say that they were right. It is a bit unfair. But we will show them they are wrong and we will draw our platform forward. Fortunately, investors continue to give us their support and dont believe in the accusations of these people.
I hope that third parties can read the thread objectively and draw their own conclusions.
I will repeat my last message, because it is quite clear:
There is no question. Everything was clear in our thread. On our team we decided not to make a video interview at this stage of the process and for that we receive attacks from some users. Beyond that there is nothing.
Just because we do not make a video call, for the reasons already set up hundreds of times, it does not make us better or worse proposal, just different.
We just want to let us work in peace. We are offer a full escrow with SebastianJu and he will release the funds to us by PARTS!!!!! If we dont deliver or stop develop he will refund to everyone.
Even, we know that the two features that highlight in our project are the use of functional programming and decentralized debits cards, which both go to be our two main pillars. We are going to focus and develop these characteristics no matter how much funding we get.
We keep our promise. Time will prove us right. Whoever wants to trust us is welcome.
Regards
PS: If no one wants to invest in our project or wait until the end of ICO to invest are free to do so.
You damn scammer why the fuck isnt the first part of the ico where 70 btc are located not in escrow?? And stop telling lies about the fucking fake developers of your scam team. People who dont exist cant give a interview am i right ? ) Put the fucking 70 btc in escrow and i will invest 10 btc. CAN YOU DO THAT YOU SCAMMER ?? YOU CANT BECAUSE YOU WİLL TAKE THE MONEY ANS RUN AWAY And to the other OPAİR SCAM supporters out there: You guys know that this shit is a scam and it wont get better if you encourage other people to invest more btc you fucking assholes. He will still take your money and run away. BTW i made the same mistake like you assholes and invested because i didnt research well. BUT at least i try to stop people investing in this shitty scam ico and i was one of the first ones who wrote legit reasons why this fucker is a scammer. And what happened after that ? He banned me from the main thread of course You guys are worse then him you god damn assholes
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