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November 24, 2016, 01:11:22 AM
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We make a update and fix that.
I am happy that work is being done on this coin.

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November 24, 2016, 02:01:46 AM
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It is 5000% per year, not 5000% per day.

Anyway, lets wait and see.

I am aware of that.

Think of it this way, if a 3 month old block of 2200 coins generated 1.4 coins, how many would it generate in a year?
There are 240 blocks in 24 hours.

The input was 3 months old. It generated a yearly % of less than 1%

Oh good so I am not the only one who thinks that. 2 weeks and I got 0.8 b3 yesterday. Wow a whole 0.8 b3 I will be rich soon. It has been "1000"' for a long time and thats bs its like 1% like you say, I am so glad someone else is saying something. B3 stakes like crap and I have been nothing but disappointed and frustrated.

Now I get told I need 7000 b3 Huh 7000 Huh Really ?? I wouldn't even risk that. Who is to say that it will even stake well at 7000 I am sure as shit not risking that if it cannot even stake properly now then why will it after buying 7000 ?? Also That is a massive 0.14-0.28 investment they asking for and they say it will stake well. Ya sure. Then I spend all that and still it doesn't stake ? Then what ? Also how the hell can it be 7000 ?? I don't believe that one bit sorry. I cannot even see network weight so who knows. Look at yobit how much is there in vilume 7000 is a shit load of the total. You would buy up most of the b3 in the top few stops for the sell price. I went and bought more now it has droped almost 50% and is 2.4k sat to buy and 1k bid. I just bid 1.5k and at 2k so I just made another lose on top of a loss.

This coin is crap and I am over it.


Do not worry ... We will have bonus section and you will get what you promised ...
Let me see the problem.

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November 24, 2016, 02:23:46 AM
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How this coin is anti-instamine? does the block adjusted each block and diff changes very quickly so that instamine will be fast subdued? I looked at your code, your diff retarget code is copied from other coins, no improvement at all, so I don't see how you can do "anti-instamine", sounds like a joke.
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November 24, 2016, 03:34:59 AM
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How this coin is anti-instamine? does the block adjusted each block and diff changes very quickly so that instamine will be fast subdued? I looked at your code, your diff retarget code is copied from other coins, no improvement at all, so I don't see how you can do "anti-instamine", sounds like a joke.
it was anti-instamine, the first 500 blocks had zero rewards. This lasted for about 2 days. It enabled DEV team to ensure that mining pool was working, during the zero reward period, so that everybody had the opportunity to mine this coin from the beginning , nobody was cheated.

The 500 zero reward (anti-instamine) blocks were used to ensure that the DEV TEAM did not have an unfair advantage over anybody else.

See the block chain below:

Details for Block #1
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?79648c0a7e43aa7a1ad85a3faf702f935949c8785a3c13cb159f5629dc559e30.htm

Details for Block #1

Hash 79648c0a7e43aa7a1ad85a3faf702f935949c8785a3c13cb159f5629dc559e30  
Date/Time 2016-08-26 14:38:04 
Transactions 1 0.2 kB 
Value Out 0.0 B3 
Difficulty 1.526e-05 
Outstanding 0.0 B3 


Details for Block #501
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?111322a7e3ecc25c06a17263969981a752047005753acd58c0e94ac1acdbfb94.htm

Details for Block #501

Hash  111322a7e3ecc25c06a17263969981a752047005753acd58c0e94ac1acdbfb94  
Date/Time 2016-08-28 14:32:47 
Transactions 1 0.3 kB 
Value Out 0.0 B3 
Difficulty 438.3268452 
Outstanding 0.0 B3


From these transactions, you can see that the OUTSTANDING TOTAL at block 501 was still 0.0 B3


POW rewards started to generate at block 502:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?933f17ad913f91b68b71da4ae43f38619930d3d96e4f4240766dd42cba0d8641.htm

Details for Block #502

Hash  933f17ad913f91b68b71da4ae43f38619930d3d96e4f4240766dd42cba0d8641  
Date/Time 2016-08-28 14:42:32 
Transactions 1 0.3 kB 
Value Out 100.0 B3 
Difficulty 467.36384656 
Outstanding 100.0 B3
Created 100.0 B3 


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November 24, 2016, 03:43:45 AM
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How this coin is anti-instamine? does the block adjusted each block and diff changes very quickly so that instamine will be fast subdued? I looked at your code, your diff retarget code is copied from other coins, no improvement at all, so I don't see how you can do "anti-instamine", sounds like a joke.
it was anti-instamine, the first 500 blocks had zero rewards. This lasted for about 2 days. It enabled DEV team to ensure that mining pool was working, during the zero reward period, so that everybody had the opportunity to mine this coin from the beginning , nobody was cheated.

The 500 zero reward (anti-instamine) blocks were used to ensure that the DEV TEAM did not have an unfair advantage over anybody else.

See the block chain below:

Details for Block #1
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?79648c0a7e43aa7a1ad85a3faf702f935949c8785a3c13cb159f5629dc559e30.htm

Details for Block #1

Hash 79648c0a7e43aa7a1ad85a3faf702f935949c8785a3c13cb159f5629dc559e30  
Date/Time 2016-08-26 14:38:04 
Transactions 1 0.2 kB 
Value Out 0.0 B3 
Difficulty 1.526e-05 
Outstanding 0.0 B3 


Details for Block #501
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?111322a7e3ecc25c06a17263969981a752047005753acd58c0e94ac1acdbfb94.htm

Details for Block #501

Hash  111322a7e3ecc25c06a17263969981a752047005753acd58c0e94ac1acdbfb94  
Date/Time 2016-08-28 14:32:47 
Transactions 1 0.3 kB 
Value Out 0.0 B3 
Difficulty 438.3268452 
Outstanding 0.0 B3


From these transactions, you can see that the OUTSTANDING TOTAL at block 501 was still 0.0 B3


POW rewards started to generate at block 502:
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?933f17ad913f91b68b71da4ae43f38619930d3d96e4f4240766dd42cba0d8641.htm

Details for Block #502

Hash  933f17ad913f91b68b71da4ae43f38619930d3d96e4f4240766dd42cba0d8641  
Date/Time 2016-08-28 14:42:32 
Transactions 1 0.3 kB 
Value Out 100.0 B3 
Difficulty 467.36384656 
Outstanding 100.0 B3
Created 100.0 B3 



OK thanks for the reply. I was thinking more on the diff retarget angle. Yes you are right. This prevents instamine from dev and thus a fair start.
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November 24, 2016, 04:13:53 AM
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It is ok ....
You can also say copied a lot code from bitcoin.

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November 24, 2016, 04:16:07 AM
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It is ok ....
You can also say copied a lot code from bitcoin.

In fact, *all* the code are copied from other altcoin, nothing is new (except some new parameters), lol Grin
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November 24, 2016, 09:25:27 AM
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I am investigating the issue, I think the reward system (new update ) has problem but older one was fine.
There will be bonus for all , all will get what the should.

Do not Worry

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November 24, 2016, 11:33:37 AM
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Halo,dev,what do you mean about the message sent to me "Orangercoin wallet update"?
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November 24, 2016, 12:23:47 PM
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Halo,dev,what do you mean about the message sent to me "Orangercoin wallet update"?
Who sent you message about "Orangercoin wallet update"?

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Halo,dev,what do you mean about the message sent to me "Orangercoin wallet update"?
What you taking about?

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November 24, 2016, 01:51:57 PM
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Halo,dev,what do you mean about the message sent to me "Orangercoin wallet update"?
What you taking about?
When do we expect update? Are you going to include crysx ideas in the next update?
We should include as much as possible in the next update, because we have to deal with YOBIT.

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November 24, 2016, 01:56:43 PM
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Halo,dev,what do you mean about the message sent to me "Orangercoin wallet update"?
What you taking about?
When do we expect update? Are you going to include crysx ideas in the next update?
We should include as much as possible in the next update, because we have to deal with YOBIT.

Soon , but code seems to be good.
This maybe forked chain     .... But let investigation complete.

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November 24, 2016, 02:09:46 PM
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Halo,dev,what do you mean about the message sent to me "Orangercoin wallet update"?
What you taking about?
When do we expect update? Are you going to include crysx ideas in the next update?
We should include as much as possible in the next update, because we have to deal with YOBIT.

Soon , but code seems to be good.
This maybe forked chain     .... But let investigation complete.
Whatever we want to do, even if we need to FORK THE CHAIN by block 30k (or block 35k), it is better that we do it all at once, in addition to crysx ideas, because we still have to deal with YOBIT.

We should not rush, but we should get as much as possible in the next update.

For example, if update is ready by block 27k, most of us will update before block 28k, BUT the current chain should not fork till block 30k (or block 35k), so that there is enough time for latecomers and YOBIT to update on the correct chain.

We talk more about this later

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November 25, 2016, 01:55:57 AM
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It seems wrong, i ask josh.

Its wrong by about 4999.5%


What should it be?
i see it is only one block

Im not sure if you are being deliberately naive but Im telling you that its staking at less than 1% per year during your advertised HIPOS 5000%
Again, look at this 3 month old block and do the math: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?25145.htm

Regardless, Im out. HIPOS was really this coins only redeeming feature. Good luck

It has never really staked properly to begin with I have staked maybe 5 times and is was so little , my last stake was 0.8b3 ....
Now the market has crashed and gone from buy 4k sell 1.5-2k to buy 1k sell 0.5k Brilliant.....

 
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November 25, 2016, 03:18:18 AM
 #676

It seems wrong, i ask josh.

Its wrong by about 4999.5%


What should it be?
i see it is only one block

Im not sure if you are being deliberately naive but Im telling you that its staking at less than 1% per year during your advertised HIPOS 5000%
Again, look at this 3 month old block and do the math: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?25145.htm

Regardless, Im out. HIPOS was really this coins only redeeming feature. Good luck

It has never really staked properly to begin with I have staked maybe 5 times and is was so little , my last stake was 0.8b3 ....
Now the market has crashed and gone from buy 4k sell 1.5-2k to buy 1k sell 0.5k Brilliant.....

the staking is small - even at 5000% ( which is per annum NOT daily as a lot of people thought ) - but its still a reasonably good system ... though i do admit - a bigger reward would have been nicer for the staking even though that should never continue for long periods of time ...

i agree with some of the proposals that greedyjohn and josh have put forward - yet limxdev is scouring the code from what ive been told ... so much for contact mate ...

if the seednodes are to participate as the main source of the seeding - the code needs to be changed to force that into effect ...

apart from the reward schedule of the coin - everyone NEEDS to understand that ALL of this is experimental to say the very least about it ( whao - experimental? ... yup - experimental ... even bitcoin - the mother of all coins - is STILL basing their code on experimental code ) ... so please be aware that anything that comes from this is massive bonus - and slagging the coin or devs because of 'this' or 'that' will do nothing for the progression of the project - or the incentives for the devs to continue working on it ...

we have all put in a great deal of time and effort - and when donations were asked - so far have nothing back from the community that so 'caringly' drag the project through the dirt ... it costs money - REAL MONEY - to bring forth a backend ( i say this from my perspective only here ) to solidify the backbone for the network ... and the 'community' want everything - including the hipos ( which agreed have issues ) for free with no intention of giving back ... nice one 'community' ... thats a good way to band together ...

so for those who are not interested in seeing progression here - dump your coins and we ( those that DO want to see this move forward ) will pick them all up ... easy ...

im off to work for night shift again - so will be back in a day or so - due to two consecutive shifts one after another ...

night all ...

#crysx

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November 25, 2016, 06:42:47 PM
 #677

It seems wrong, i ask josh.

Its wrong by about 4999.5%


What should it be?
i see it is only one block

Im not sure if you are being deliberately naive but Im telling you that its staking at less than 1% per year during your advertised HIPOS 5000%
Again, look at this 3 month old block and do the math: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?25145.htm

Regardless, Im out. HIPOS was really this coins only redeeming feature. Good luck

It has never really staked properly to begin with I have staked maybe 5 times and is was so little , my last stake was 0.8b3 ....
Now the market has crashed and gone from buy 4k sell 1.5-2k to buy 1k sell 0.5k Brilliant.....

the staking is small - even at 5000% ( which is per annum NOT daily as a lot of people thought ) - but its still a reasonably good system ... though i do admit - a bigger reward would have been nicer for the staking even though that should never continue for long periods of time ...

i agree with some of the proposals that greedyjohn and josh have put forward - yet limxdev is scouring the code from what ive been told ... so much for contact mate ...

if the seednodes are to participate as the main source of the seeding - the code needs to be changed to force that into effect ...

apart from the reward schedule of the coin - everyone NEEDS to understand that ALL of this is experimental to say the very least about it ( whao - experimental? ... yup - experimental ... even bitcoin - the mother of all coins - is STILL basing their code on experimental code ) ... so please be aware that anything that comes from this is massive bonus - and slagging the coin or devs because of 'this' or 'that' will do nothing for the progression of the project - or the incentives for the devs to continue working on it ...

we have all put in a great deal of time and effort - and when donations were asked - so far have nothing back from the community that so 'caringly' drag the project through the dirt ... it costs money - REAL MONEY - to bring forth a backend ( i say this from my perspective only here ) to solidify the backbone for the network ... and the 'community' want everything - including the hipos ( which agreed have issues ) for free with no intention of giving back ... nice one 'community' ... thats a good way to band together ...

so for those who are not interested in seeing progression here - dump your coins and we ( those that DO want to see this move forward ) will pick them all up ... easy ...

im off to work for night shift again - so will be back in a day or so - due to two consecutive shifts one after another ...

night all ...

#crysx

Wow... Fine !! I only have a few hundred b3 anyway but fine Ill make a donation. Would that make you shut up ?

Give me the address for the donation oh and btw you say noone gave anything but one guy donated 100b3 a while ago. I said I would donate what I can stake but since I cannot stake I don't have much now do I ? Also I am just starting out in life I am still young I do not have a whole lot of money ok. Then you want to come give me BS ?
Dude really...

You can actually take all my b3 because after reading your snotty little post I am actually done. If you can't even appreciate me as a bagholder then to hell with you.

 
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November 25, 2016, 07:45:34 PM
 #678

It seems wrong, i ask josh.

Its wrong by about 4999.5%


What should it be?
i see it is only one block

Im not sure if you are being deliberately naive but Im telling you that its staking at less than 1% per year during your advertised HIPOS 5000%
Again, look at this 3 month old block and do the math: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?25145.htm

Regardless, Im out. HIPOS was really this coins only redeeming feature. Good luck

It has never really staked properly to begin with I have staked maybe 5 times and is was so little , my last stake was 0.8b3 ....
Now the market has crashed and gone from buy 4k sell 1.5-2k to buy 1k sell 0.5k Brilliant.....

the staking is small - even at 5000% ( which is per annum NOT daily as a lot of people thought ) - but its still a reasonably good system ... though i do admit - a bigger reward would have been nicer for the staking even though that should never continue for long periods of time ...

i agree with some of the proposals that greedyjohn and josh have put forward - yet limxdev is scouring the code from what ive been told ... so much for contact mate ...

if the seednodes are to participate as the main source of the seeding - the code needs to be changed to force that into effect ...

apart from the reward schedule of the coin - everyone NEEDS to understand that ALL of this is experimental to say the very least about it ( whao - experimental? ... yup - experimental ... even bitcoin - the mother of all coins - is STILL basing their code on experimental code ) ... so please be aware that anything that comes from this is massive bonus - and slagging the coin or devs because of 'this' or 'that' will do nothing for the progression of the project - or the incentives for the devs to continue working on it ...

we have all put in a great deal of time and effort - and when donations were asked - so far have nothing back from the community that so 'caringly' drag the project through the dirt ... it costs money - REAL MONEY - to bring forth a backend ( i say this from my perspective only here ) to solidify the backbone for the network ... and the 'community' want everything - including the hipos ( which agreed have issues ) for free with no intention of giving back ... nice one 'community' ... thats a good way to band together ...

so for those who are not interested in seeing progression here - dump your coins and we ( those that DO want to see this move forward ) will pick them all up ... easy ...

im off to work for night shift again - so will be back in a day or so - due to two consecutive shifts one after another ...

night all ...

#crysx

Wow... Fine !! I only have a few hundred b3 anyway but fine Ill make a donation. Would that make you shut up ?

Give me the address for the donation oh and btw you say noone gave anything but one guy donated 100b3 a while ago. I said I would donate what I can stake but since I cannot stake I don't have much now do I ? Also I am just starting out in life I am still young I do not have a whole lot of money ok. Then you want to come give me BS ?
Dude really...

You can actually take all my b3 because after reading your snotty little post I am actually done. If you can't even appreciate me as a bagholder then to hell with you.
Take it easy, nobody is blaming you as an individual, but crysx was expecting more donations from the community.

I want to get B3 to donate, but I am currently BROKE.

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November 25, 2016, 10:46:06 PM
 #679

It seems wrong, i ask josh.

Its wrong by about 4999.5%


What should it be?
i see it is only one block

Im not sure if you are being deliberately naive but Im telling you that its staking at less than 1% per year during your advertised HIPOS 5000%
Again, look at this 3 month old block and do the math: https://chainz.cryptoid.info/b3/block.dws?25145.htm

Regardless, Im out. HIPOS was really this coins only redeeming feature. Good luck

It has never really staked properly to begin with I have staked maybe 5 times and is was so little , my last stake was 0.8b3 ....
Now the market has crashed and gone from buy 4k sell 1.5-2k to buy 1k sell 0.5k Brilliant.....

the staking is small - even at 5000% ( which is per annum NOT daily as a lot of people thought ) - but its still a reasonably good system ... though i do admit - a bigger reward would have been nicer for the staking even though that should never continue for long periods of time ...

i agree with some of the proposals that greedyjohn and josh have put forward - yet limxdev is scouring the code from what ive been told ... so much for contact mate ...

if the seednodes are to participate as the main source of the seeding - the code needs to be changed to force that into effect ...

apart from the reward schedule of the coin - everyone NEEDS to understand that ALL of this is experimental to say the very least about it ( whao - experimental? ... yup - experimental ... even bitcoin - the mother of all coins - is STILL basing their code on experimental code ) ... so please be aware that anything that comes from this is massive bonus - and slagging the coin or devs because of 'this' or 'that' will do nothing for the progression of the project - or the incentives for the devs to continue working on it ...

we have all put in a great deal of time and effort - and when donations were asked - so far have nothing back from the community that so 'caringly' drag the project through the dirt ... it costs money - REAL MONEY - to bring forth a backend ( i say this from my perspective only here ) to solidify the backbone for the network ... and the 'community' want everything - including the hipos ( which agreed have issues ) for free with no intention of giving back ... nice one 'community' ... thats a good way to band together ...

so for those who are not interested in seeing progression here - dump your coins and we ( those that DO want to see this move forward ) will pick them all up ... easy ...

im off to work for night shift again - so will be back in a day or so - due to two consecutive shifts one after another ...

night all ...

#crysx

Wow... Fine !! I only have a few hundred b3 anyway but fine Ill make a donation. Would that make you shut up ?

Give me the address for the donation oh and btw you say noone gave anything but one guy donated 100b3 a while ago. I said I would donate what I can stake but since I cannot stake I don't have much now do I ? Also I am just starting out in life I am still young I do not have a whole lot of money ok. Then you want to come give me BS ?
Dude really...

You can actually take all my b3 because after reading your snotty little post I am actually done. If you can't even appreciate me as a bagholder then to hell with you.

aaand this is WHY i write posts like that ...

no sense of appreciation OR sense of decency when it comes to the people BEHIND these projects ...

snotty indeed ... the amount of work that goes into these projects is beyond anything you can comprehend ... especially completely unpaid and long tiresome hours outside of the 'real world' work and costs ...

our ( cwi ) infrastructure cost more than a few thousand austraklian dollars EVERY MONTH ... yet you can complain about a project that the devs and people in the background are busting their guts trying to work on ...
yup - YOU are the proof and backing of what i have been mentioning earlier ...

dump the coins mate - and allow those that actually WANT to be part of this project a chance to be part of it ...

you 'told' me that you were going to donate? ... you couldnt TELL me anything i dont already know - or havent already heard before ... ive been here for years - on a different profile - and watched and learned a great deal from the 'kindness' that YOU show you fellow participants ...

i wish i could have been kinder to you - but being snotty is not part of what i am about - so i dont take kindly to people like you that talk about donating - but didnt even BOTHER to READ and notice that the donation addresses were already PUBLISHED - AND - not even ONE coin was donated by you ... ONE would have been a kind gesture - just one ...

but so far - all hot air and talk ...

tanx for your 'kind' input ... ill remember this in future if you ever are in dire straights and the cwi infrastructure is there to help you ...

@crysx

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Hey guys stop frighting ..
I see the code may have iso issue but investigation going on ..
We will have bonus section for 500 blocks so that everyone have chance and not lose.

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