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March 07, 2017, 09:32:50 AM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.

So this is what goes on behind the scene and Tokes team can't come out to state the truth about what is causing delay.
It was a foolish decision on the part of Tokes team to offer Bitcoin instead of Tokes tokens, the reward should have been tied to the performance of the ICO , the fund received is barely enough to develop the platform talkless of offering 5BTC to anyone.

They have sealed the deal already and must fulfill it
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March 07, 2017, 10:00:46 AM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.

but this is about the +plus they were offering to eary buyers (as incent tokens)? or the TOKES tokens which are the actual coin? Huh
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March 07, 2017, 10:04:03 AM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.

but this is about the +plus they were offering to eary buyers (as incent tokens)? or the TOKES tokens which are the actual coin? Huh
It's basically about all the work still to be done from our side. We are more than happy to fulfill our obligations but that requires TOKES to fulfill their part of the deal.

In short: TOKES is on hold until payment is received/escrowed.
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March 07, 2017, 10:04:25 AM
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Waiting Incent listed on the big exchange
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March 07, 2017, 11:08:23 AM
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In short: TOKES is on hold until payment is received/escrowed.

Hey,

When did this happen? I meant the refusal of payment from TOKES side.

Thankyou
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March 07, 2017, 02:55:31 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.
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March 07, 2017, 03:06:58 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.
Tokes is the result of his project. But it looks like he wasn't running for good. And lack of the update about the latest development.  Cheesy

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March 07, 2017, 04:13:23 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.

I'm not sure who you're talking to here, or what you're referring to - Tokes or Incent?
If Tokes, that's something to take up with their team.
If Incent, you are quite misguided.
The bit about pyramids and grandmothers was particularly arcane. Please explain?

Edit: latest major update barely a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.msg18010652#msg18010652
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March 07, 2017, 04:37:54 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.

I'm not sure who you're talking to here, or what you're referring to - Tokes or Incent?
If Tokes, that's something to take up with their team.
If Incent, you are quite misguided.
The bit about pyramids and grandmothers was particularly arcane. Please explain?

Edit: latest major update barely a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.msg18010652#msg18010652
I'm talking about incent! Why did you go to the stock exchange? You essentially have nothing to trade with. You are present at 2 exchanges. Offer to buy your coins .... and the price is already 2 times lower than ico by btc? Are you serious? Do you like to see how your idea depreciates? You say that the price in USD has not changed almost ..... This can not be a question !!! You collected funds in btc.And the course is also in btc !! All the rest is an excuse, you can console yourself. Your do not invest in your token because you are not sure whether you can get your money back. Your not sure that he will be in demand at all ... But for this you are all here to convince the contrary. There is only one conclusion!
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March 07, 2017, 05:07:10 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.

I'm not sure who you're talking to here, or what you're referring to - Tokes or Incent?
If Tokes, that's something to take up with their team.
If Incent, you are quite misguided.
The bit about pyramids and grandmothers was particularly arcane. Please explain?

Edit: latest major update barely a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.msg18010652#msg18010652
I'm talking about incent! Why did you go to the stock exchange? You essentially have nothing to trade with. You are present at 2 exchanges. Offer to buy your coins .... and the price is already 2 times lower than ico by btc? Are you serious? Do you like to see how your idea depreciates? You say that the price in USD has not changed almost ..... This can not be a question !!! You collected funds in btc.And the course is also in btc !! All the rest is an excuse, you can console yourself. Your do not invest in your token because you are not sure whether you can get your money back. Your not sure that he will be in demand at all ... But for this you are all here to convince the contrary. There is only one conclusion!
No, you are completely mistaken. Let me get the facts straight:

We are a startup. As for any other startup, money doesn't grow on trees. We are trying to spend our working capital as efficiently and effectively as possible for the sake of Incent and, inevitably, its price in the long-term. We are hard at work to release the core application and on-board the first merchant. We expect this to happen during April. After having achieved this milestone, the money situation will be slightly different: There will be a revenue stream through commissions and our goal must be to write black figures as soon as possible, meaning to generate more revenue than expenses. Until this point, we are solely reliant on our seed funding through the ICO and will therefore definitely not buy back Incent and, as a result, reduce our working capital.

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March 07, 2017, 05:10:15 PM
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seem the story has come out eventually. can't you just go on. INCENT had been dumped pretty hard the first chance its market was opened on openledger, they must really need that 5 btc very badly. i suggest tokes team to give to them what was agreed before it all started.   Grin









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March 07, 2017, 05:13:52 PM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.

but this is about the +plus they were offering to eary buyers (as incent tokens)? or the TOKES tokens which are the actual coin? Huh
It's basically about all the work still to be done from our side. We are more than happy to fulfill our obligations but that requires TOKES to fulfill their part of the deal.

In short: TOKES is on hold until payment is received/escrowed.

All I see is incompetence on the part of Incent. I invested in both Incent and TOKES. First the "fantastic platform" Incent built crashed every other day. You provided poor support when you were contacted for help by users / participants. You overpaid a bunch of investors and asked for the Incent back post ICO.

You should be bending over backwards to the Tokes guys for selling them on a crappy ICO platform rather than pointing fingers.

The audacity of all this is unfathomable.

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March 07, 2017, 05:48:34 PM
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Can INCENT dev complete the distribution of TOKES asap? Everytime tokes dev refer us to incent for delaying tokes distribution.
It would be nice if you say something like when your'e going to distribute all tokes?
Thank you

I will pass it on. Just to check, have you put your Waves address in the ICO area?

I've just checked. Support for Tokes has been suspended.
There was an MOA with Tokes to pay 5 BTC for the service Incent offered. They are refusing to honour this due to their raise being less than they expected.
Obviously this is not our responsibility. Until it is resolved all support is on hold.
I'd suggest that you take this up with Tokes in the meantime.

but this is about the +plus they were offering to eary buyers (as incent tokens)? or the TOKES tokens which are the actual coin? Huh
It's basically about all the work still to be done from our side. We are more than happy to fulfill our obligations but that requires TOKES to fulfill their part of the deal.

In short: TOKES is on hold until payment is received/escrowed.

All I see is incompetence on the part of Incent. I invested in both Incent and TOKES. First the "fantastic platform" Incent built crashed every other day. You provided poor support when you were contacted for help by users / participants. You overpaid a bunch of investors and asked for the Incent back post ICO.

You should be bending over backwards to the Tokes guys for selling them on a crappy ICO platform rather than pointing fingers.

The audacity of all this is unfathomable.


Not really. We are creating a platform and ecosystem and were quite transparent about what it involved and our timelines. Perhaps you didn't read the white paper or website?
It is necessary for us to trade on exchanges ahead of merchant integration to establish a market price before that buy pressure comes in. Besides, the community clamoured for Incent to be added to exchanges. Read back through the post history if you're in any doubt.
If you're upset that the market has treated Incent unfavourably when we're pre-launch (no merchant demand) and bitcoin is spiking, that is unfortunate but beyond our control. If you weren't prepared to wait until launch, you shouldn't have invested. We have always been crystal clear about where the return on investment would come from, and it's not burning the funds we collected. That is the very definition of a ponzi.
As for Tokes, there was an agreement there too. They didn't honour it. Take it up with them.
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March 07, 2017, 05:57:57 PM
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.

I'm not sure who you're talking to here, or what you're referring to - Tokes or Incent?
If Tokes, that's something to take up with their team.
If Incent, you are quite misguided.
The bit about pyramids and grandmothers was particularly arcane. Please explain?

Edit: latest major update barely a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.msg18010652#msg18010652
I'm talking about incent! Why did you go to the stock exchange? You essentially have nothing to trade with. You are present at 2 exchanges. Offer to buy your coins .... and the price is already 2 times lower than ico by btc? Are you serious? Do you like to see how your idea depreciates? You say that the price in USD has not changed almost ..... This can not be a question !!! You collected funds in btc.And the course is also in btc !! All the rest is an excuse, you can console yourself. Your do not invest in your token because you are not sure whether you can get your money back. Your not sure that he will be in demand at all ... But for this you are all here to convince the contrary. There is only one conclusion!

Just so we're clear:
Buying tokens back using ICO funds makes us a Ponzi. You want us to be a Ponzi?
Price has fallen in terms of BTC. BTC has risen. This is a known phenomenon in cryptoland, it impacts everything. Would you like us to take the blame for the fall in the value of the Mexican Peso, or credit for the rise in the FTSE? Same reason, a change in the value of the reference currency.

I can appreciate that the exchange price of Incent may be disheartening to investors. Equally, we never promised the magical 3x growth in a week that some ICO participants seem to believe is their entitlement. We said we would launch a loyalty system and integrate the first merchants around the end of March, beginning of April, and that returns would be based on demand from real e-commerce transactions. And that's what we're doing.
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Stop lying to people!!!  >:(You have done nothing but empty statements. Raised money? WHERE ARE THE RESULTS???The builders of the pyramids... THEIR STRATEGIES leave deaf grandmother. Talkers and scammers.

I'm not sure who you're talking to here, or what you're referring to - Tokes or Incent?
If Tokes, that's something to take up with their team.
If Incent, you are quite misguided.
The bit about pyramids and grandmothers was particularly arcane. Please explain?

Edit: latest major update barely a week ago: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1610052.msg18010652#msg18010652
I'm talking about incent! Why did you go to the stock exchange? You essentially have nothing to trade with. You are present at 2 exchanges. Offer to buy your coins .... and the price is already 2 times lower than ico by btc? Are you serious? Do you like to see how your idea depreciates? You say that the price in USD has not changed almost ..... This can not be a question !!! You collected funds in btc.And the course is also in btc !! All the rest is an excuse, you can console yourself. Your do not invest in your token because you are not sure whether you can get your money back. Your not sure that he will be in demand at all ... But for this you are all here to convince the contrary. There is only one conclusion!
No, you are completely mistaken. Let me get the facts straight:

We are a startup. As for any other startup, money doesn't grow on trees. We are trying to spend our working capital as efficiently and effectively as possible for the sake of Incent and, inevitably, its price in the long-term. We are hard at work to release the core application and on-board the first merchant. We expect this to happen during April. After having achieved this milestone, the money situation will be slightly different: There will be a revenue stream through commissions and our goal must be to write black figures as soon as possible, meaning to generate more revenue than expenses. Until this point, we are solely reliant on our seed funding through the ICO and will therefore definitely not buy back Incent and, as a result, reduce our working capital.



You see? You told the real state of affairs. This is your strategy .... You do not want to spend money until there is real income from the project. More precisely, while the current income from the project is not used to the current expense for its development. That is, you do not plan to really invest in promotion until you are sure that the project is profitable. But tell me, why then go to the stock exchange with a pacifier ??
 Do you understand that you are misleading people? They do not know your plans and expect a different result from these investments. So say that we do not plan to support the course until the project is self-supporting. So far nothing has been done, so do not expect growth until everything is will be working.
Personally, your position is clear to me.

Your position is understandable. But being placed on the stock exchange you also need to take into account the volatility of bitcoins and the risks that your potential investors are expecting .. Even more than they themselves are expecting it. This is correct. And so you claim that bitcoin has grown very ... and once we bought your token, ourselves to blame ....
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You see? You told the real state of affairs. This is your strategy .... You do not want to spend money until there is real income from the project. More precisely, while the current income from the project is not used to the current expense for its development. That is, you do not plan to really invest in promotion until you are sure that the project is profitable. But tell me, why then go to the stock exchange with a pacifier ??
 Do you understand that you are misleading people? They do not know your plans and expect a different result from these investments. So say that we do not plan to support the course until the project is self-supporting. So far nothing has been done, so do not expect growth until everything is will be working.
Personally, your position is clear to me.

Your position is understandable. But being placed on the stock exchange you also need to take into account the volatility of bitcoins and the risks that your potential investors are expecting .. Even more than they themselves are expecting it. This is correct. And so you claim that bitcoin has grown very ... and once we bought your token, ourselves to blame ....

Hi Papa Di,
I think you may have misunderstood. We are spending money where we need to: on developing the app/tech, on business development, on compliance - basically on all the things we need to make sure happen to launch a viable product that operates within the current regulatory structure. What we cannot afford to do is spend funds where we do not need to. Everything at this point goes behind launching a successful consumer app. Everything else comes from that. Get it wrong and we're dead in the water before we start. Get it right and the sky is the limit.

You're right that bitcoin's volatility is a risk assumed by the investor. That is the case with any investment, of course - that the currency in which you invest (i.e. that you sell for the asset purchased) rises in value. If bitcoin had fallen in value, likely Incent would have risen against BTC, as is the case with just about any alt under those circumstances. This is just a given in the crypto economy. It is unavoidable and it affects every ICO and crypto project to some extent.

Bottom line, we're not launched with Merchant 1 yet. We need to be on exchanges ahead of that. The price you see there isn't realistic - it wouldn't be possible to cash out large amounts anyway, as there simply isn't the liquidity. (One of the things we discussed at length in Sydney was our marketmaking strategy, and how we will add depth to the order books. This will allow merchants and traders to buy in/cash out with lower slippage, and will benefit everyone.) We're not at go-live yet, so the sorts of criticisms you're making of us just don't stack up. We're doing what we need to and what we said we would, within the schedule laid out.
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March 07, 2017, 08:19:32 PM
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Incidentally, for those traders who haven't been keeping an eye on such things, the decision on the first bitcoin ETF is due by Saturday at the latest. That will inevitably have an impact on bitcoin prices, and alts by implication.
Goodness knows which way it will go, but I'd expect volatility in both BTC and alts/Incent to result whatever happens.
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March 07, 2017, 08:43:56 PM
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In short: TOKES is on hold until payment is received/escrowed.

they wan't pay

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mwagner_tokes [10:30 AM]
I'll be making some public statements soon. The essence is that we had a phone call yesterday to discuss wrapping up the remaining distributions, along with the balance of the reserve account. In addition to an initial 5btc payment to them, and a 3 btc escrow payment, we had initially discussed a 5btc closing payment. However, given their negligence in execution on our token sale, I sought to negotiate different terms on that final payment

[10:31]
If you invested with us, you're quite familiar with some of the inadequacies of their ICO portal and the execution of the distribution

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We will be recreating the asset on waves, with the same name, but under a new asset ID. Waves was designed to do this natively, and in fact it is possible to create duplicates of any asset on the chain.

[10:33]
We have the database of investor transactions, so we'll be re-issuing the new asset to our investors as an immediate priority

[10:33]
Any and all future exchange listings will be based on the new asset ID

Its really frustrating for me. Why not try reasoning with this very first partnered with Incent project?

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March 07, 2017, 09:05:17 PM
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Hello everyone,

It saddens me that I'm here posting this reply. For those of you who don't know me, I'm Michael Wagner, founder of the Tokes Platform. I would have preferred for Rob and I to navigate this conversation privately, but as the Incent team has announced a 'discontinuation of support' for our ICO distribution, I'm compelled to provide a response.

For some background, the terms of our MOA included a 5BTC deposit up front, 5BTC closing payment, and 2% of total funds raised as a share of revenue. In return, we were to receive a functional investment management backend portal along with a component of technical support for our users. We made payments on the initial deposit, as well as an interim payment based on funds raised (~1.8BTC). If you were a participant in our ICO, you can attest to the fact that the execution of distribution of tokes proceeds left a lot to be desired, and in fact was never officially completed. Our ICO closed on January 15th, and our investors are still waiting on distributions to be processed by their team.


For additional context, this is the email message I sent to Rob and Peter following our call earlier in the evening. Please note that this went out at 8:05PM PST, and the 'discontinuation of support' post was released in the early hours of the morning, without having any additional communication with me.

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From: Michael Wagner [mailto:michael@tokesplatform.org]
Sent: Monday, March 6, 2017 8:05 PM
To: 'Rob Wilson' <rob@bitscan.co>
Cc: 'Peter Godbolt' <peter@incentloyalty.com>; gabriel@tokesplatform.org; jon@tokesplatform.org; 'Minh Tran' <minh@tokesplatform.org>
Subject: RE: bounties etc.

Rob,

Following up from our call, a few of the areas we see as being inadequate performance, in no particular order:

•   Email support system never worked (i.e. password resets and other contact requests)
•   Referral system and bonuses were non-functional
•   Numerous API outages and incorrect reporting for both Waves and BTC
•   Site outages on several occasions, notably on the day of our promotional sale
•   Incorrect time periods being reported for phases of ICO – countdown timer hitting zero then counting upwards
•   Incorrect reporting amount for distribution, causing numerous man-hours spent manually calculating accurate amounts to demonstrate to participants
•   Long delay between time in which we approved initial token release and actual distribution (somewhere around 2 weeks)
•   Long delay on distribution of approved bounty spreadsheet
•   Incomplete backend reporting functionality (fields missing data)
•   Communication dropping off for 1-2 weeks at a time, despite emails, at the most critical time of our ICO distribution
•   Incent bonuses did not go out

The rest of my team might have additional items to add… As I said on the phone, I’d really like for us to come to some terms amiably. I do think there is some opportunity for us to generate value for and with each other in the future. I can be flexible with some form of payment via tokes. I hope you’ll take these items under consideration, along with the revenue you generated relative to both service provided and total funds raised by the ICO. I’ll be available for a follow-up call after you’ve thought this over.

Best,

Michael Wagner
Founder
Tokes Platform / Cannabis Revolution

While I made an appeal to them regarding the payment amount to them proportional to funds raised, this is not about us 'not raising enough money'. This is about inadequate execution of their side of the agreement.


An earlier attempt to communicate with Incent at the beginning of February:

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From: Michael Wagner [mailto:michael@tokesplatform.org]
Sent: Monday, February 6, 2017 12:23 PM
To: 'Peter Godbolt' <peter@bitscan.co>; 'Rob Wilson' <rob@bitscan.co>
Cc: gabriel@tokesplatform.org; jon@tokesplatform.org
Subject: ICO and Bounty Distributions

Gentleman,

Hope all finds you well following the weekend. As we near completion on the Tokes ICO, I just wanted to follow up on a few final details…

1.   Jon has completed the reconciliation for bounty distributions and prepared a spreadsheet with waves wallet addresses and their respective payouts, which I’ve attached. Please let me know if you still plan on adding these payouts to the remaining distributions or if we should process manually.

2.   Remaining investor distributions…not surprisingly, a few members of the community are getting a bit restless about receiving their tokes. I understand that you’re being methodical with the distro, but just wanted to get an idea of when all members with withdrawal addresses will receive their full payouts?

3.   Tokes Reserve Address: given that the majority of ICO payments have gone out, you should be able to process the tokes reserve distribution. You can retain some units as necessary to ensure complete distro, but ~95% of the reserve can be sent to: 3P5WW7ebPaZF5NXDm1ZZYmrbgFm784tsRPw

4.   Per my communications with Fran, we’ve released escrow including the 2% payment due to Incent. I can pull transaction details if needed, but you should have received that payment late last week.

5.   Incent bonus: several members have inquired about the 1% incent bonus to be paid to ICO investors. I assume those will be going out along with the final tokes distributions, or should we be preparing for a different scenario?

6.   Customer testament: I’m sure you’re eager to further promote the ICO technology. Per our earlier conversation, I’m happy to write up a customer statement for you, pending completion on the remaining items above.


I think that just about covers everything from our end. Looking forward to getting everything wrapped up from an ICO perspective, and potentially continuing the conversation regarding POS development. I’ve loosely discussed this with Peter, but we might have an opportunity to jointly develop a mobile app and point-of-sale system, as our projects have some overlapping interest in that technology. In any case, look forward to hearing back.

Best,
Michael


In essence, we paid for a product we thought was robust and complete from individuals we felt were professional. What we received was complete garbage. It would be irresponsible from both a company perspective, and in considering the impact on our investors, for me to relegate additional funds from our operating capital to pay a non-performing contract. I would caution anyone considering the use of Incent ICO technology to strongly reconsider the other options currently available in the ecosystem. If the Tokes team did anything wrong, it was engaging with Incent on this feature.


Given the fact that we are terminating our relationship with Incent, I don't feel that the Incent ANN thread is the most appropriate channel to continue this conversation. If you were a Tokes investor, or have interest in our project, I encourage you to join us in slack (you can register at: https://tokes-slack.herokuapp.com/ and join us at http://tokesplatform.slack.com).


For those who invested in Tokes Platform, know that we will be making you whole through the issuance of a new asset on Waves, with the name Tokes, but under a new asset ID. Any exchange listings will be based on that new asset ID. The members in our slack channel have requested that the initial 1% Incent bonus that was offered be replaced with a 1% Tokes bonus, which we will honor. Feel free to reach me direct at michael@tokesplatform.org. Bear in mind that we might be inundated with emails initially, so please bear with me on response time. I'll begin processing the replacement asset today.

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March 07, 2017, 09:30:05 PM
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Incidentally, for those traders who haven't been keeping an eye on such things, the decision on the first bitcoin ETF is due by Saturday at the latest. That will inevitably have an impact on bitcoin prices, and alts by implication.
Goodness knows which way it will go, but I'd expect volatility in both BTC and alts/Incent to result whatever happens.

the 'problem' in our case will be if BTC goes up tooooo much because the alcoins will drooooop down, more. can't wait to see the WAVES echanger  Sad Sad
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