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September 30, 2016, 08:54:45 PM
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October 01, 2016, 12:00:36 AM
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Bienvenue à Martin Galas dans la team Inchain Smiley


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October 01, 2016, 12:15:01 AM
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The rough concept is great! Yes, I want insurance! Not sure yet, if I will invest in this ico. Depends on answers by devs.

Seriously. After all the scams in this forum, decloud etc. you ought to make a video. We don't care if you don't have great ambient. Sit in front of a clean wall, that suffices. Use a notebook or even android phone. Then make a google hangout and answer some questions. That should suffice.

Look how DECENT was interviewed.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BUf60-HuWm8

4 If I wanted to insure say 100 btc on exchange, will you be verifying that I actually own such balance, or will you just take my word and charge me appropriate premium?

4) As long as you pay your premium it makes no difference to Inchain whether or not you have the BTC in the exchange.
So people could claim a high balance, pay a premium and then hope the exchange gets hacked?

Or worse... As an insider of the exchange...
1) Pay a high premium for BTC you don't have. Make many anonymous accounts and premiums.
2) Hack the exchange.
3) Profit twice.

if the exchange does not recover the loss within a certain period of time, Inchain will do it itself and the user would have to transfer the debt to Inchain, which will be dealing with the exchange afterwards.
What period of time exactly? Can you fix that value please? In a legally binding way, not as a forum post? Otherwise it could be 50 years.

Third, Inchain intends do not insure doubtful exchanges/web-wallets.
Will you specify criteria for that? In a legally binding way, not as a forum post? Such as non-anonymous devs, devs posted video of themselves, someone saw their passport, and whatnot.

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October 01, 2016, 07:20:00 AM
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its the turn of blockchain/crypto related "insurance" schemes.

how is the "insurance" offered in Inchain different from Incent?
Incent is a loyalty platfrom.

Inchain is an insurance company.

With an Inchain insurance policy you will get refunded if your exchange gets hacked.
Incent will help you when shopping. Its quite a big difference.

The look the same though - one can easily mistake one for the other. INChain & INCent. Also colors or their logo are the same.
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October 01, 2016, 07:24:46 AM
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its the turn of blockchain/crypto related "insurance" schemes.

how is the "insurance" offered in Inchain different from Incent?
Incent is a loyalty platfrom.

Inchain is an insurance company.

With an Inchain insurance policy you will get refunded if your exchange gets hacked.
Incent will help you when shopping. Its quite a big difference.

The look the same though - one can easily mistake one for the other. INChain & INCent. Also colors or their logo are the same.

Well... Its different...

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October 01, 2016, 11:24:02 AM
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its the turn of blockchain/crypto related "insurance" schemes.

how is the "insurance" offered in Inchain different from Incent?
Incent is a loyalty platfrom.

Inchain is an insurance company.

With an Inchain insurance policy you will get refunded if your exchange gets hacked.
Incent will help you when shopping. Its quite a big difference.

The look the same though - one can easily mistake one for the other. INChain & INCent. Also colors or their logo are the same.

Well... Its different...
I think decent and incent are much more similar than inchain and incent.
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October 01, 2016, 11:31:10 AM
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i just joined the twitter campaign  Wink

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October 01, 2016, 11:31:44 AM
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Bienvenue à Martin Galas dans la team Inchain Smiley



Many thanks)

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October 01, 2016, 11:33:22 AM
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its the turn of blockchain/crypto related "insurance" schemes.

how is the "insurance" offered in Inchain different from Incent?
Incent is a loyalty platfrom.

Inchain is an insurance company.

With an Inchain insurance policy you will get refunded if your exchange gets hacked.
Incent will help you when shopping. Its quite a big difference.

The look the same though - one can easily mistake one for the other. INChain & INCent. Also colors or their logo are the same.
ICO Incent start today, price 10.000 satoshi. lol
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October 01, 2016, 12:12:40 PM
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The rough concept is great! Yes, I want insurance! Not sure yet, if I will invest in this ico. Depends on answers by devs.

Thank you for your opinion about Inchain concept)

Seriously. After all the scams in this forum, decloud etc. you ought to make a video. We don't care if you don't have great ambient. Sit in front of a clean wall, that suffices. Use a notebook or even android phone. Then make a google hangout and answer some questions. That should suffice.

Agree, the video will be published soon) And thank for an example and advice.

Next week we are going to make a google hangout. Tuesday at 22:00 Moscow time. The link will be published here, in FB, slack, twitter.

So people could claim a high balance, pay a premium and then hope the exchange gets hacked?

Or worse... As an insider of the exchange...
1) Pay a high premium for BTC you don't have. Make many anonymous accounts and premiums.
2) Hack the exchange.
3) Profit twice.

Yes, fraud is possible. But, what exchanges wanna be hacked? Security is their main competitive advantage. Also, as we discussed here some times ago to prevent cases like you described can be used follows things:

There can be some different solutions:
1) we can use some KYC service to stop insurance spam
2) we can restrict max insured balance to minimise a potential damage if some of the policies are an abuse
3) we can stop to issue insurance policies after the first minimal signal about hack is received
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Another way which would make it harder to abuse would be to put a small delay between the time of purchase and the time the coverage sets in.

Maybe a 24 hour window from the insurance is purchased until a claim can be made. It would give at least give you a chance to spot any anomalies. Perhaps even alert exchange.

Sure it would still be possible to get around but every little bit helps.

5) we wait from the community suggestions about other ways to solve this problem

any suggestions?

And yesterday we got an agreement from Martin Galas (look the Team on our website) to participate in Inchain as an insurance business advisor. So we are waiting he makes our insurance model more fraud resistant.


if the exchange does not recover the loss within a certain period of time, Inchain will do it itself and the user would have to transfer the debt to Inchain, which will be dealing with the exchange afterwards.
What period of time exactly? Can you fix that value please? In a legally binding way, not as a forum post? Otherwise it could be 50 years.


For now we think the cooling period must not be more than 1 month. And this is an open info and it will in the Inchain insurance terms of course.

Third, Inchain intends do not insure doubtful exchanges/web-wallets.
Will you specify criteria for that?

Yes, we intend to rate every exchange and depends on their risk rating they can or can not be insured by Inchain.
This info will be public. Some evident criteria for rating:
  • How long the service is operational
  • If it was compromised previously
  • Security audit results
  • Multi-Sig & Hot Wallets/ 2Factor


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October 01, 2016, 03:14:28 PM
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Initial Coin Offering
Inchain ICO starts on 12th October 2016 and will last four weeks.

Oh, good, 12th Oct to 12th Nov. I thought it was from 1st of oct.

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October 01, 2016, 03:49:21 PM
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Initial Coin Offering
Inchain ICO starts on 12th October 2016 and will last four weeks.

Oh, good, 12th Oct to 12th Nov. I thought it was from 1st of oct.

Not till 12th November, its not correct. ICO will end on 9th November.
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October 01, 2016, 04:18:39 PM
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ok, good project, I will follow it.
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October 01, 2016, 04:21:14 PM
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ok, good project, I will follow it.

Thank you)

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October 01, 2016, 04:22:06 PM
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Any interviews with the developers?
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October 01, 2016, 04:25:27 PM
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Any interviews with the developers?

Next week we are going to make a google hangout. Tuesday at 22:00 Moscow time. The link will be published here, in FB, slack, twitter.

Also, we are going to record short-interviews with devs. I hope next week it will ready.

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October 01, 2016, 04:27:44 PM
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Any interviews with the developers?

Next week we are going to make a google hangout. Tuesday at 22:00 Moscow time. The link will be published here, in FB, slack, twitter.

Also, we are going to record short-interviews with devs. I hope next week it will ready.

Ok, thanks.
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October 01, 2016, 04:55:35 PM
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Any interviews with the developers?

Next week we are going to make a google hangout. Tuesday at 22:00 Moscow time. The link will be published here, in FB, slack, twitter.

Also, we are going to record short-interviews with devs. I hope next week it will ready.
Great. That is just in time. I very much like to see the videos before the ICO starts so I have still time to make up my mind. I wouldn't want to invest early into the ICO to get the bonus and watch the videos a week later. Or miss the ICO bonus. Miss ICO bonus for me = do not invest.

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October 01, 2016, 05:00:59 PM
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Any interviews with the developers?

Next week we are going to make a google hangout. Tuesday at 22:00 Moscow time. The link will be published here, in FB, slack, twitter.

Also, we are going to record short-interviews with devs. I hope next week it will ready.
Great. That is just in time. I very much like to see the videos before the ICO starts so I have still time to make up my mind. I wouldn't want to invest early into the ICO to get the bonus and watch the videos a week later. Or miss the ICO bonus. Miss ICO bonus for me = do not invest.

I understand) See you at google hangout.

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October 01, 2016, 05:07:17 PM
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Will my coins also be insured when they are in poloniex lending?

Do you consider to extend the offer later on?

I would also like to have insurance against other coin loss:
- my locally stored coins!
- computer hacked
- computer with coins stolen
- forgot password
- data corruption

And I would also like to have insurance for coins I put into high risk investments:

- delta investments - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1578438.0;all
- omicron - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1603994.0;all
- HYIP

I wouldn't mind to reveal all my personal data to you for KYC and fraud prevention.

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