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Author Topic: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax  (Read 340092 times)
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January 06, 2018, 06:34:20 PM
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Which zk-snarks privacy coin is best?   Which has the spirit of the original bitcoin?

BTCZ = community coin, no premine, no dev fund, no ICO and no founders reward.  

ZEC = 20% founder fund, WTF
ZEN = 8.5% treasury fund
HUSH = Premine
ZCL = ZEC fork, TBD fork to BTCP, another WTF?

BitcoinZ may end up being way better than ZCL/BTCP.   Think about it another way, BTCP has tonnes of crap baggage.  Zclassic & Bitcoin owners will hold majority of the wealth. With difficulty spiking because of the hype, new comers will be left to mine the crumbs while holders control the lions share of the coin, and thus control the market.    This will have a massive impact on global adoption.     The time to mine or buy BitcoinZ is now.    Privacy coins will have a place in the future.

The 21B BTCZ coins makes so much sense.   I rather have block reward of 12500 coins per 2.5 mins instead of 12.5 per 2.5 min.   Who wants to deal in fractions.

Didn't BitcoinZ (BTCZ) community made a windows seeder wallet for ZCL ? I can't find it. Smiley

Would there be a way to enlarge the maximum supply in the future if it will be necessary?
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January 06, 2018, 06:49:18 PM
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Which zk-snarks privacy coin is best?   Which has the spirit of the original bitcoin?

BTCZ = community coin, no premine, no dev fund, no ICO and no founders reward. 

ZEC = 20% founder fund, WTF
ZEN = 8.5% treasury fund
HUSH = Premine
ZCL = ZEC fork, TBD fork to BTCP, another WTF?

BitcoinZ may end up being way better than ZCL/BTCP.   Think about it another way, BTCP has tonnes of crap baggage.  Zclassic & Bitcoin owners will hold majority of the wealth. With difficulty spiking because of the hype, new comers will be left to mine the crumbs while holders control the lions share of the coin, and thus control the market.    This will have a massive impact on global adoption.     The time to mine or buy BitcoinZ is now.    Privacy coins will have a place in the future.

The 21B BTCZ coins makes so much sense.   I rather have block reward of 12500 coins per 2.5 mins instead of 12.5 per 2.5 min.   Who wants to deal in fractions.

Didn't BitcoinZ (BTCZ) community made a windows seeder wallet for ZCL ? I can't find it. Smiley

Would there be a way to enlarge the maximum supply in the future if it will be necessary?

Surprised you guys aren't mentioning ZOI in that comparison it has a real dev team and masternodes coming soon! But yeah I had high hope for ZCL but with this fork coming up I remain skeptical, clearly its just become this guys personal pump toy for him to drop his bags on noobs imo and it damages what little rep ZCL has left. Honestly I would ditch the old dev he decided that he didn't want anything else to do with the project and chose Zen over it. ZCL has a huge advantage over other alts its actually on bittrex already but it needs a strong dev team, strong community, and a roadmap for the foreseeable future.

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January 06, 2018, 07:07:20 PM
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Which zk-snarks privacy coin is best?   Which has the spirit of the original bitcoin?

BTCZ = community coin, no premine, no dev fund, no ICO and no founders reward. 

ZEC = 20% founder fund, WTF
ZEN = 8.5% treasury fund
HUSH = Premine
ZCL = ZEC fork, TBD fork to BTCP, another WTF?

BitcoinZ may end up being way better than ZCL/BTCP.   Think about it another way, BTCP has tonnes of crap baggage.  Zclassic & Bitcoin owners will hold majority of the wealth. With difficulty spiking because of the hype, new comers will be left to mine the crumbs while holders control the lions share of the coin, and thus control the market.    This will have a massive impact on global adoption.     The time to mine or buy BitcoinZ is now.    Privacy coins will have a place in the future.

The 21B BTCZ coins makes so much sense.   I rather have block reward of 12500 coins per 2.5 mins instead of 12.5 per 2.5 min.   Who wants to deal in fractions.

Didn't BitcoinZ (BTCZ) community made a windows seeder wallet for ZCL ? I can't find it. Smiley

Would there be a way to enlarge the maximum supply in the future if it will be necessary?

Surprised you guys aren't mentioning ZOI in that comparison it has a real dev team and masternodes coming soon! But yeah I had high hope for ZCL but with this fork coming up I remain skeptical, clearly its just become this guys personal pump toy for him to drop his bags on noobs imo and it damages what little rep ZCL has left. Honestly I would ditch the old dev he decided that he didn't want anything else to do with the project and chose Zen over it. ZCL has a huge advantage over other alts its actually on bittrex already but it needs a strong dev team, strong community, and a roadmap for the foreseeable future.


he ditch zen at the end too lol.
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January 06, 2018, 11:35:09 PM
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Will I get Bitcoin Private if I hold ZCL on Cryptopia???
I did a small withdrawal from Cryptopia to my eleos wallet osx, the transaction is confirmed but didnt arrive
here is the transaction on explorer, could somebody help?
http://explorer.zclmine.pro/tx/e99c95267aa22ff6e25a56c9eaa1d30745b32a14eeadd98ea913b669562c514e
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January 07, 2018, 12:15:19 AM
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This coin is killing me with daily had i known regrets. I almost bought in a week before it popped, literally psyched myself out and took the 1 btc i would have invested and place it on bat. smfh.

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January 07, 2018, 01:39:25 AM
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What a sudden rise. However the project deserves it. IMHO. What are the nex event the team is going to participate?

 lol in what kind of manner it deserve it ? By abandoning community for +6 month and suddenly dev show him with the last 'game changer topic' in crypto? You guys shill are at pro level that's all.

ZCL just a fad copy of ZEC. If you guys want game changer then look at ZEN ,have node,many team around the world and they are partnering with cardaro to make DAO treasure systems,zenhide,instant zen,smart contract etc etc etc. zcl is barely like a banana republic lmao

Even if ZCL is just a copy of ZEC, you don't have to love it, you just need to profit from it. The returns given lately by ZCL cannot be matched by ZEC or ZEN. If you don't believe in ZCL, the gains you have gotten would have enabled you to invest in several promising coins out there that catches your fancy.  Sometimes, dismissing a coin outright could be disadvantageous to your wallet. Smiley

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January 07, 2018, 04:19:51 AM
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Hi Dev, Is there a mac wallet for Zclassic

          Huh
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January 07, 2018, 04:46:33 AM
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The ZclassicPapperWallet, We able to store our Zclassic coins there and still receive the BTCP?
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January 07, 2018, 07:34:11 AM
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This coin is killing me with daily had i known regrets. I almost bought in a week before it popped, literally psyched myself out and took the 1 btc i would have invested and place it on bat. smfh.

I bought a few at $4.7 and sold at $4.5 when the bitcoin cash - coinbase drama unfolded. This popped like crazy week after. So, I hear you brother.
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January 07, 2018, 08:10:08 AM
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new wallet released tomorrow, hopefully.
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January 07, 2018, 02:45:04 PM
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We should see another spike once FOMO is enabled
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January 07, 2018, 03:36:00 PM
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If i bought this coin at the cryptopia exchange, i will get the same amount of what i purchased when fork bitcoin private fork is successful right?
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January 07, 2018, 03:44:27 PM
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I would think with so many exchanges closed regs it has limited some new money coming in.
Since I mine ZCL and cant seem to register on a decent exchange that supports it I am curious what happens during the fork if ppl cant register?
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January 07, 2018, 04:12:18 PM
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Will I get Bitcoin Private if I hold ZCL on Cryptopia???
I did a small withdrawal from Cryptopia to my eleos wallet osx, the transaction is confirmed but didnt arrive
here is the transaction on explorer, could somebody help?
http://explorer.zclmine.pro/tx/e99c95267aa22ff6e25a56c9eaa1d30745b32a14eeadd98ea913b669562c514e
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January 07, 2018, 05:17:54 PM
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Bittrex ZCL wallet is under maintenance because obviously Bittrex does not have enough ZCL tokens to fulfil peoples desires to take it off the exchange. They are busy trying to scoop up cheap Zclassic to cater to all the buyers but are finding that hard.

We still don't know if Bittrex will support the fork, do we ?
No it doesn't support the fork. Bittrex sucks.

That's surprising. I think they might change their stance on that once the fork date is announced.
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January 07, 2018, 05:57:28 PM
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Is there official statement from Bittrex about the fork?
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January 07, 2018, 06:59:54 PM
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calm down. they promised to release working wallets for OSX and WIN. so you don't need to hold your coins on an exchange.
if you want to receive these coins then you should at least install a wallet. exchanges don't have to provide coins to lazy people.
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January 07, 2018, 11:04:46 PM
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Sorry if I'm asking answered question. What about the official wallet on zcl website - https://github.com/z-classic/zclassic/releases/tag/1.1 ?
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January 07, 2018, 11:51:25 PM
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Sorry if I'm asking answered question. What about the official wallet on zcl website - https://github.com/z-classic/zclassic/releases/tag/1.1 ?

There's to be a 'new wallet' announcement tomorrow-ish. For OSX and Windows.

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January 08, 2018, 05:32:53 AM
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The ZclassicPapperWallet, We able to store our Zclassic coins there and still receive the BTCP?

Yes.
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