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Author Topic: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax  (Read 338343 times)
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January 06, 2018, 04:31:50 PM
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What a sudden rise. However the project deserves it. IMHO. What are the nex event the team is going to participate?

 lol in what kind of manner it deserve it ? By abandoning community for +6 month and suddenly dev show him with the last 'game changer topic' in crypto? You guys shill are at pro level that's all.

ZCL just a fad copy of ZEC. If you guys want game changer then look at ZEN ,have node,many team around the world and they are partnering with cardaro to make DAO treasure systems,zenhide,instant zen,smart contract etc etc etc. zcl is barely like a banana republic lmao

Exactly, I lost more than a whole bitcoin 2 months back when I sold all ZCL up at 0.0002 BTC (thinking project is dead, dev is dead and soon Bittrex will de-list it). All that ZCL was purchased at 0.0004 BTC half a year back, and I sold it at all this loss. They would've turned almost 50 BTC right now if I had kept just for two more months, but I'm literally glad I didn't. I don't wanna be a part of a coin which is filled with lies.

Rhett clearly, crystal clearly told us all that there'll be absolutely NO development of ZCL ever, it'll just simply & simply follow the steps of ZEC but without founder fee. I tried my level best to convince him for at least some upgrades, but he denied. Now out of no-where, he appeared again and announced this stupid plan of forking, and stupid newbies are taking part in it. The actual value of BTCP and ZCL, soon will be zero. Zen and Hush are much better projects, but they just don't create any hype nor any useless fork, where ZCL is winning.

For that matter, even XLM is copy of XRP with difference largely on the governance where one is owned largely by a company and other managed by a non-profit. So, even if this is merely a copy of Zcash with difference in only how its governed I will like to see it on top with Zcash.
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January 06, 2018, 05:40:08 PM
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Will you get BTCP if you have your ZClassic on Bittrex??

No, I don't think so. BTCP is going to be absolutely nothing, I'm amazed people aren't thinking about it. Now we have one headache, ZCL only, but soon we'll have two headaches, ZCL and BTCP. BTCP won't be even added to any exchange, I don't see any plans of it. This drama is going to be ended soon and bad, and dev will be offline forever.

The dev probably wanted to cashout his last left-overs of ZCL at a good rate, and started this drama.

how much do you think it would spike from here?

I don't think so it'll spike any further, but even if it does, it should not be able to cross 0.003 BTC.

wanna bet on x4?

Sure thing! How much? You think it'll go to 0.012 BTC? LOL, get real man.

so how's life? just hit .012
ill accept 10 zclassic hahaha
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January 06, 2018, 05:57:54 PM
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Will you get BTCP if you have your ZClassic on Bittrex??

No, I don't think so. BTCP is going to be absolutely nothing, I'm amazed people aren't thinking about it. Now we have one headache, ZCL only, but soon we'll have two headaches, ZCL and BTCP. BTCP won't be even added to any exchange, I don't see any plans of it. This drama is going to be ended soon and bad, and dev will be offline forever.

The dev probably wanted to cashout his last left-overs of ZCL at a good rate, and started this drama.

how much do you think it would spike from here?

I don't think so it'll spike any further, but even if it does, it should not be able to cross 0.003 BTC.

wanna bet on x4?

Sure thing! How much? You think it'll go to 0.012 BTC? LOL, get real man.

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January 06, 2018, 06:18:59 PM
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Bittrex ZCL wallet is under maintenance because obviously Bittrex does not have enough ZCL tokens to fulfil peoples desires to take it off the exchange. They are busy trying to scoop up cheap Zclassic to cater to all the buyers but are finding that hard.

We still don't know if Bittrex will support the fork, do we ?
No it doesn't support the fork. Bittrex sucks.
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January 06, 2018, 06:20:06 PM
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Didn't BitcoinZ (BTCZ) community made a windows seeder wallet for ZCL ? I can't find it. Smiley

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January 06, 2018, 06:29:20 PM
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Would there be a way to enlarge the maximum supply in the future if it will be necessary?
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January 06, 2018, 06:34:20 PM
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Which zk-snarks privacy coin is best?   Which has the spirit of the original bitcoin?

BTCZ = community coin, no premine, no dev fund, no ICO and no founders reward.  

ZEC = 20% founder fund, WTF
ZEN = 8.5% treasury fund
HUSH = Premine
ZCL = ZEC fork, TBD fork to BTCP, another WTF?

BitcoinZ may end up being way better than ZCL/BTCP.   Think about it another way, BTCP has tonnes of crap baggage.  Zclassic & Bitcoin owners will hold majority of the wealth. With difficulty spiking because of the hype, new comers will be left to mine the crumbs while holders control the lions share of the coin, and thus control the market.    This will have a massive impact on global adoption.     The time to mine or buy BitcoinZ is now.    Privacy coins will have a place in the future.

The 21B BTCZ coins makes so much sense.   I rather have block reward of 12500 coins per 2.5 mins instead of 12.5 per 2.5 min.   Who wants to deal in fractions.

Didn't BitcoinZ (BTCZ) community made a windows seeder wallet for ZCL ? I can't find it. Smiley

Would there be a way to enlarge the maximum supply in the future if it will be necessary?
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January 06, 2018, 06:49:18 PM
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Which zk-snarks privacy coin is best?   Which has the spirit of the original bitcoin?

BTCZ = community coin, no premine, no dev fund, no ICO and no founders reward. 

ZEC = 20% founder fund, WTF
ZEN = 8.5% treasury fund
HUSH = Premine
ZCL = ZEC fork, TBD fork to BTCP, another WTF?

BitcoinZ may end up being way better than ZCL/BTCP.   Think about it another way, BTCP has tonnes of crap baggage.  Zclassic & Bitcoin owners will hold majority of the wealth. With difficulty spiking because of the hype, new comers will be left to mine the crumbs while holders control the lions share of the coin, and thus control the market.    This will have a massive impact on global adoption.     The time to mine or buy BitcoinZ is now.    Privacy coins will have a place in the future.

The 21B BTCZ coins makes so much sense.   I rather have block reward of 12500 coins per 2.5 mins instead of 12.5 per 2.5 min.   Who wants to deal in fractions.

Didn't BitcoinZ (BTCZ) community made a windows seeder wallet for ZCL ? I can't find it. Smiley

Would there be a way to enlarge the maximum supply in the future if it will be necessary?

Surprised you guys aren't mentioning ZOI in that comparison it has a real dev team and masternodes coming soon! But yeah I had high hope for ZCL but with this fork coming up I remain skeptical, clearly its just become this guys personal pump toy for him to drop his bags on noobs imo and it damages what little rep ZCL has left. Honestly I would ditch the old dev he decided that he didn't want anything else to do with the project and chose Zen over it. ZCL has a huge advantage over other alts its actually on bittrex already but it needs a strong dev team, strong community, and a roadmap for the foreseeable future.

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January 06, 2018, 07:07:20 PM
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Which zk-snarks privacy coin is best?   Which has the spirit of the original bitcoin?

BTCZ = community coin, no premine, no dev fund, no ICO and no founders reward. 

ZEC = 20% founder fund, WTF
ZEN = 8.5% treasury fund
HUSH = Premine
ZCL = ZEC fork, TBD fork to BTCP, another WTF?

BitcoinZ may end up being way better than ZCL/BTCP.   Think about it another way, BTCP has tonnes of crap baggage.  Zclassic & Bitcoin owners will hold majority of the wealth. With difficulty spiking because of the hype, new comers will be left to mine the crumbs while holders control the lions share of the coin, and thus control the market.    This will have a massive impact on global adoption.     The time to mine or buy BitcoinZ is now.    Privacy coins will have a place in the future.

The 21B BTCZ coins makes so much sense.   I rather have block reward of 12500 coins per 2.5 mins instead of 12.5 per 2.5 min.   Who wants to deal in fractions.

Didn't BitcoinZ (BTCZ) community made a windows seeder wallet for ZCL ? I can't find it. Smiley

Would there be a way to enlarge the maximum supply in the future if it will be necessary?

Surprised you guys aren't mentioning ZOI in that comparison it has a real dev team and masternodes coming soon! But yeah I had high hope for ZCL but with this fork coming up I remain skeptical, clearly its just become this guys personal pump toy for him to drop his bags on noobs imo and it damages what little rep ZCL has left. Honestly I would ditch the old dev he decided that he didn't want anything else to do with the project and chose Zen over it. ZCL has a huge advantage over other alts its actually on bittrex already but it needs a strong dev team, strong community, and a roadmap for the foreseeable future.


he ditch zen at the end too lol.
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January 06, 2018, 11:23:57 PM
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Does the official wallet of Zclassic support the hard fork?
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January 06, 2018, 11:35:09 PM
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Will I get Bitcoin Private if I hold ZCL on Cryptopia???
I did a small withdrawal from Cryptopia to my eleos wallet osx, the transaction is confirmed but didnt arrive
here is the transaction on explorer, could somebody help?
http://explorer.zclmine.pro/tx/e99c95267aa22ff6e25a56c9eaa1d30745b32a14eeadd98ea913b669562c514e
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January 07, 2018, 12:15:19 AM
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This coin is killing me with daily had i known regrets. I almost bought in a week before it popped, literally psyched myself out and took the 1 btc i would have invested and place it on bat. smfh.

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January 07, 2018, 01:39:25 AM
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What a sudden rise. However the project deserves it. IMHO. What are the nex event the team is going to participate?

 lol in what kind of manner it deserve it ? By abandoning community for +6 month and suddenly dev show him with the last 'game changer topic' in crypto? You guys shill are at pro level that's all.

ZCL just a fad copy of ZEC. If you guys want game changer then look at ZEN ,have node,many team around the world and they are partnering with cardaro to make DAO treasure systems,zenhide,instant zen,smart contract etc etc etc. zcl is barely like a banana republic lmao

Even if ZCL is just a copy of ZEC, you don't have to love it, you just need to profit from it. The returns given lately by ZCL cannot be matched by ZEC or ZEN. If you don't believe in ZCL, the gains you have gotten would have enabled you to invest in several promising coins out there that catches your fancy.  Sometimes, dismissing a coin outright could be disadvantageous to your wallet. Smiley

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January 07, 2018, 04:19:51 AM
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Hi Dev, Is there a mac wallet for Zclassic

          Huh
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January 07, 2018, 04:46:33 AM
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The ZclassicPapperWallet, We able to store our Zclassic coins there and still receive the BTCP?
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January 07, 2018, 07:34:11 AM
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This coin is killing me with daily had i known regrets. I almost bought in a week before it popped, literally psyched myself out and took the 1 btc i would have invested and place it on bat. smfh.

I bought a few at $4.7 and sold at $4.5 when the bitcoin cash - coinbase drama unfolded. This popped like crazy week after. So, I hear you brother.
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January 07, 2018, 08:10:08 AM
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new wallet released tomorrow, hopefully.
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January 07, 2018, 02:45:04 PM
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We should see another spike once FOMO is enabled
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January 07, 2018, 03:36:00 PM
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If i bought this coin at the cryptopia exchange, i will get the same amount of what i purchased when fork bitcoin private fork is successful right?
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January 07, 2018, 03:44:27 PM
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I would think with so many exchanges closed regs it has limited some new money coming in.
Since I mine ZCL and cant seem to register on a decent exchange that supports it I am curious what happens during the fork if ppl cant register?
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