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Author Topic: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax  (Read 338352 times)
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November 09, 2016, 11:13:13 PM
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There was a little bug for the anonymous (Walletaddress) users on our stats as they weren't displayed correctly, that is now fixed on https://pool.mn/zclassic

Your pool and website is good, always responsive and transactions show up fast.
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November 09, 2016, 11:23:57 PM
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What Zclassic have a roadmap and the future, I see some threads get it similar to zcash
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November 09, 2016, 11:27:40 PM
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The initial difficulty parameters for Zclassic were set low.  Difficulty adjusts each block, but it does appear that an early adopter managed to mine 84 blocks.  I was not the lucky miner.  It was probably someone reading this thread.  If I had known people would bring that much solving power to the network that fast, I would have made the initial difficulty a little higher. Because I didn't know how much miners would participate, I kept the default setting low because it re-adjusts each block anyway.  The exact code was made publicly available before the launch.

You can see the blocks here now that we have a block explorer:  Sorty by height ascending: https://classic.zcha.in/blocks

Placebo is complaining simultaneously that:

1. It's unfair an early adopter mined coins with no existing market and made a lot of money because they are now worth a lot.

2. Zclassic coins will be worthless because clearly Zcash keeps losing value (nevermind their increasing rate of block rewards, high starting difficulty, and 20% tax).

If you don't like that, please fork the coin, start the difficulty out high, give everyone 4 weeks advance notice, and see how easy it is to get miners on board.

It is my belief that a coin should reward early adopters, not the other way around.  If you don't like something about Zclassic, don't use it.  It's that simple.

If you think the starting parameters in the code were bad, fork it and start a new coin.  That's what I did.


Sorry current supply is : 30325 ZCL so his 1037 coins is a little more then 0.000049405. Also the fact is when he has this amount of coins he could sell at 0.01... so then you are talking about 10.37 BTC premine Wink and you call that nothing? There are a lot of ICO coins that even don't hit 5 BTC Smiley, or a lot of other scam premine coins that doesn't hit that number...

And he send those coins, so most likely he dumped those coins (already).


You will see Zclassic dying little by little, as dev doesn't have any coins and he will make another scam... waiting for another famous coin and scam in the same way. This person is even so stupid to use the same wallet... if he would have mine it from different wallets then nobody would notice, but here it is more then clear.... Investors again gave away 10 BTC to a scammer....





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November 09, 2016, 11:40:01 PM
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The initial difficulty parameters for Zclassic were set low.  Difficulty adjusts each block, but it does appear that an early adopter managed to mine 84 blocks.  I was not the lucky miner.  It was probably someone reading this thread.  If I had known people would bring that much solving power to the network that fast, I would have made the initial difficulty a little higher. Because I didn't know how much miners would participate, I kept the default setting low because it re-adjusts each block anyway.  The exact code was made publicly available before the launch.

You can see the blocks here now that we have a block explorer:  Sorty by height ascending: https://classic.zcha.in/blocks

Placebo is complaining simultaneously that:

1. It's unfair an early adopter mined coins with no existing market and made a lot of money because they are now worth a lot.

2. Zclassic coins will be worthless because clearly Zcash keeps losing value (nevermind their increasing rate of block rewards, high starting difficulty, and 20% tax).

If you don't like that, please fork the coin, start the difficulty out high, give everyone 4 weeks advance notice, and see how easy it is to get miners on board.

It is my belief that a coin should reward early adopters, not the other way around.  If you don't like something about Zclassic, don't use it.  It's that simple.

If you think the starting parameters in the code were bad, fork it and start a new coin.  That's what I did.


Sorry current supply is : 30325 ZCL so his 1037 coins is a little more then 0.000049405. Also the fact is when he has this amount of coins he could sell at 0.01... so then you are talking about 10.37 BTC premine Wink and you call that nothing? There are a lot of ICO coins that even don't hit 5 BTC Smiley, or a lot of other scam premine coins that doesn't hit that number...

And he send those coins, so most likely he dumped those coins (already).


You will see Zclassic dying little by little, as dev doesn't have any coins and he will make another scam... waiting for another famous coin and scam in the same way. This person is even so stupid to use the same wallet... if he would have mine it from different wallets then nobody would notice, but here it is more then clear.... Investors again gave away 10 BTC to a scammer....





I strongly support your choice and this version of Zcash instead of the original "mafia dev reward".

I see a bright future for ZCL if it can gather an united community! Wink

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November 09, 2016, 11:52:31 PM
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I hope ZCL gets listed fast @ bittrex & polo , i want to see a fair competition
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November 09, 2016, 11:57:00 PM
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I wonder if I should buy now, or wait Smiley HARD DECISION. But I'm betting on ZCL, one of the best alt I've seen in a long time  Smiley

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November 10, 2016, 12:04:47 AM
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Can somebody tell me if the ZCL client auto connects to zcash classic nodes or i need to put ZCL nodes in conf file?

Thanks.

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November 10, 2016, 12:14:07 AM
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I think we should reboot zclassic.  With the same block reward structure (minus founders reward, or have it at 5%).  this one was changed to 12.50 for no good reason other than to mine a lot of coins fast.

edit: or whatever.  whatevs
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November 10, 2016, 12:21:27 AM
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12.50 block rewards is exactly the same as Zcash after they are done with their slow start.

I think we should reboot zclassic.  With the same block reward structure (minus founders reward, or have it at 5%).  this one was changed to 12.50 for no good reason other than to mine a lot of coins fast.

edit: or whatever.  whatevs

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November 10, 2016, 12:29:10 AM
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I think we should reboot zclassic.  With the same block reward structure (minus founders reward, or have it at 5%).  this one was changed to 12.50 for no good reason other than to mine a lot of coins fast.

edit: or whatever.  whatevs

Its exactly the same as ZCash people should inform themself before doing this assumptions.

Its on block 2490 out of a total of 1 680 000.

I think you still have plenty of time to get in.

I got this on day 3, and im averaging one coin per day.
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November 10, 2016, 12:34:35 AM
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I'm not Touching any classic stuff because I lost to much on ETC i guessing this will be the same just asking ? .

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November 10, 2016, 12:41:24 AM
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I'm not Touching any classic stuff because I lost to much on ETC i guessing this will be the same just asking ? .

No, it's just a similarity in the name and not in the reason of having the fork. This is just a "fair" version of Zcash witout the dev reward hardcoded in each block...thisis a real cryptocurrency develoepd by the community for teh community as bitcoin was so i think ZCL will have much longer future than zcash.

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November 10, 2016, 01:45:34 AM
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++A1

The initial difficulty parameters for Zclassic were set low.  Difficulty adjusts each block, but it does appear that an early adopter managed to mine 84 blocks.  I was not the lucky miner.  It was probably someone reading this thread.  If I had known people would bring that much solving power to the network that fast, I would have made the initial difficulty a little higher. Because I didn't know how much miners would participate, I kept the default setting low because it re-adjusts each block anyway.  The exact code was made publicly available before the launch.

You can see the blocks here now that we have a block explorer:  Sorty by height ascending: https://classic.zcha.in/blocks

Placebo is complaining simultaneously that:

1. It's unfair an early adopter mined coins with no existing market and made a lot of money because they are now worth a lot.

2. Zclassic coins will be worthless because clearly Zcash keeps losing value (nevermind their increasing rate of block rewards, high starting difficulty, and 20% tax).

If you don't like that, please fork the coin, start the difficulty out high, give everyone 4 weeks advance notice, and see how easy it is to get miners on board.

It is my belief that a coin should reward early adopters, not the other way around.  If you don't like something about Zclassic, don't use it.  It's that simple.

If you think the starting parameters in the code were bad, fork it and start a new coin.  That's what I did.


Sorry current supply is : 30325 ZCL so his 1037 coins is a little more then 0.000049405. Also the fact is when he has this amount of coins he could sell at 0.01... so then you are talking about 10.37 BTC premine Wink and you call that nothing? There are a lot of ICO coins that even don't hit 5 BTC Smiley, or a lot of other scam premine coins that doesn't hit that number...

And he send those coins, so most likely he dumped those coins (already).


You will see Zclassic dying little by little, as dev doesn't have any coins and he will make another scam... waiting for another famous coin and scam in the same way. This person is even so stupid to use the same wallet... if he would have mine it from different wallets then nobody would notice, but here it is more then clear.... Investors again gave away 10 BTC to a scammer....




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November 10, 2016, 02:02:59 AM
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can we get bittrex? it just needs 5BTC and we will have big traction then

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November 10, 2016, 02:09:31 AM
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So, are we looking at instant profit mining ZCL like we are now experiencing mining ZEC? 
I can mine Zec for two days and turn it into a decent amount of BTC.  Or, is it like Pascal coin where
I found four blocks/400 coins and waiting for it to go up? (I'm ok with that, too).


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November 10, 2016, 02:15:31 AM
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So, are we looking at instant profit mining ZCL like we are now experiencing mining ZEC? 
I can mine Zec for two days and turn it into a decent amount of BTC.  Or, is it like Pascal coin where
I found four blocks/400 coins and waiting for it to go up? (I'm ok with that, too).



I believe it's slightly more profitable than ZEC to mine at the moment.
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November 10, 2016, 02:20:52 AM
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I Reboot?


I think we should reboot zclassic.  With the same block reward structure (minus founders reward, or have it at 5%).  this one was changed to 12.50 for no good reason other than to mine a lot of coins fast.

edit: or whatever.  whatevs

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November 10, 2016, 03:36:30 AM
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http://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zclassic/

listed on coinmarketcap
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November 10, 2016, 05:06:17 AM
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Why can not i connect to the server? I'm trying for nheqminer -l zcl.suprnova.cc:4042 -u Weblogin.Worker -p password -t 4 ?

you got to create a worker ? have you created one ? and changed this  -u Weblogin.Worker -p password -t 4 ?
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November 10, 2016, 05:30:47 AM
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Why can not i connect to the server? I'm trying for nheqminer -l zcl.suprnova.cc:4042 -u Weblogin.Worker -p password -t 4 ?

you got to create a worker ? have you created one ? and changed this  -u Weblogin.Worker -p password -t 4 ?

Of course, i happen to be in CPU/Windows

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