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Author Topic: [ANN] Zclassic, Zcash Fork No Premine, No 20% Founders Tax  (Read 339290 times)
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February 05, 2017, 04:20:38 AM
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Looking for the next huuuge uptrend on ZCash!!! It's been quiet since a month and really stable..

So where would one start if the wanted to do some dev work. Err, I should say learn how to do.. dev work?
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February 05, 2017, 11:54:47 AM
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Looking for the next huuuge uptrend on ZCash!!! It's been quiet since a month and really stable..

So where would one start if the wanted to do some dev work. Err, I should say learn how to do.. dev work?


Join our rocketchat.zdeveloper.org and become part of the community.
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February 06, 2017, 09:21:50 AM
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This coin has a lot going for it; The original body of work and standing of participants, the most documented, transparant and trustworthy start and the pace and quality of post-fork development.
The only thing that sucks IMHO is the name. The name needs to change!

It has been discussed before, in a distant future it might happen, but its not a priority atm.

This is one of the things I am most curious about far as long term potential, doesn't need to happen too fast but don't put it off too long either



A question of my own, may have been asked in one of the many pages. Do the devs have any plans to update ZCL in directions different from what ZEC may do or are the two coins basically just on a race to do the same things and only differ over the emissions curve and dev fee?
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February 06, 2017, 09:34:46 AM
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Would someone be so kind to recommend the "best" exchange to trade ZCL? I mining ZCL and at some point I have to pay the electric bill, so although I'm hodl, I do need to exchange some of it Smiley I appreciate your help! Thanks!

P.S. Wish ShapeShift supported ZCL Sad

Should mine a mix of ZCL and ZEC

Hold the ZCL and sell the ZEC to pay off electric
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February 06, 2017, 01:18:09 PM
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This coin is undervalued.. and I think whales are accumulating..  Smiley

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February 06, 2017, 05:56:58 PM
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This coin is undervalued.. and I think whales are accumulating..  Smiley


I would say as with all crypto...do not risk what you can afford to lose.
These are volatile investments, but history has proven that in the long run,
they do go up in value. Even if it takes 3-5 years.
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February 07, 2017, 02:40:11 AM
Last edit: February 07, 2017, 06:59:18 AM by PovertyByte
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This coin is undervalued.. and I think whales are accumulating..  Smiley


I would say as with all crypto...do not risk what you can afford to lose.
These are volatile investments, but history has proven that in the long run,
they do go up in value. Even if it takes 3-5 years.

Honestly, I am wondering if ZCL can grow where BTC can't. Will ZCL ever get stuff like LN for example
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February 07, 2017, 02:48:24 AM
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ZCL is better than ZEC..

but still thats not good enough

yolo
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February 07, 2017, 02:52:58 AM
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ZCL is better than ZEC..

but still thats not good enough

it still sux and is broken just like ZEC

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February 07, 2017, 02:55:19 PM
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ZCL is great, it's only problem is that it's flying under the radar...

I put up a list of why I think it will succeed:

- Anonymous transactions are needed by everyone and not only for people "who have something to hide" like Dark markets. Private transactions are a necessity in business. It's also the basis of fungibility. But at the moment, Bitcoin is not anonymous. We don't know when/if it will be upgraded with privacy features.
- There is only 2 serious technology offering anonymous transaction right now Monero and Zcash.
- Zcash technology is better than Monero:

  • Zcash is close to Bitcoin in design and therefore can benefit from the developpment network effect unlike Monero where everything needs to be developped from scratch for it. Zcash also has the exact same model of issuance as Bitcoin, 21m coins, same rate of mining.
  • Zcash has opt-in anonymous transactions where Monero is anonymous by default. This means that with Zcash you can either do transparent regular blockchain transactions or cloaked anonymous transactions. This offers 2 advantages, first transparent transactions are useful for different type of usecases. And second it doesn't raise as much redflags from governments while offering the same privacy.
  • On the technical side, Zcash transactions are considered theoretically more perfectly anonymous and Zcash has better scalability than Monero.

- But Zcash suffers from a fatal flaw, it's the product of a US corporation and they made the mind-boggling decision to add tax of 20% on every block mined (until half of the total coins are mined).

  • Corporate coins add general uncertainty such as centralisation pressure and legal targets.
  • The 20% tax is not acceptable and destroys the foundation of what is supposed to be a worlwide currency. This will put a ceiling on Zcash potential as money. Cryptocurrencies are meant to free people and enable worldwide unfettered commerce not bring us back to Middle Age seignorage !

=> Zclassic is a fork of Zcash that simply removed the mining tax, it was released just a few days after Zcash and is what Zcash should have been.
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February 07, 2017, 03:07:28 PM
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You made my day Ekonom, I couldn't agree more with your view on ZCL.

It just lacks visibility at the moment, but it won't be long before people realize that it's much better than ZEC.
Not even talking about the current valuation...
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February 07, 2017, 03:09:15 PM
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Congratulations for this beautiful synthesis.

Nothing to add!

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February 08, 2017, 12:41:51 AM
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maybe a good idea 2 get ZCL onto Yobit, i know its shite but now has pretty big vol, higher than trex most days it seems. though how much is fake who knows??? it only costs    0.1 for add or 0.4 for quick add, i think

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February 08, 2017, 01:06:50 AM
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Yes Yobit is bigger than Bittrex now

Need to list Zclassic there
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February 08, 2017, 01:14:48 AM
Last edit: February 08, 2017, 07:36:30 AM by fxminer
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ZCL community donated Yobit request! Yobit request on the way... Join community chat: https://rocketchat.zdeveloper.org/

BTW New ZClassic Windows Wallet 0.0.7 has been released

Features:
  • Annonymous and public account transfers support (zaddr, taddr)
  • Anonymous messanger (zmsg)
  • Native Windows ZClassic 1.0.5 (Full node)
  • Can be used as cold wallet address generator

https://raw.githubusercontent.com/wiki/fxminer/zclassic-windows-wallet/images/zclassic-windows-wallet_v0.0.7.png

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https://github.com/fxminer/zclassic-windows-wallet/releases/
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February 08, 2017, 11:04:38 AM
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Can't wait to see ZCL on Yobit, I donated.

For once, they will onboard a good coin !  Grin
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February 08, 2017, 01:33:16 PM
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ZCL community donated Yobit request! Yobit request on the way... Join community chat: https://rocketchat.zdeveloper.org/

BTW New ZClassic Windows Wallet 0.0.7 has been released

Features:
  • Annonymous and public account transfers support (zaddr, taddr)
  • Anonymous messanger (zmsg)
  • Native Windows ZClassic 1.0.5 (Full node)
  • Can be used as cold wallet address generator



Download
https://github.com/fxminer/zclassic-windows-wallet/releases/

good the price slowly moving up! Btc going down.. expecting a big rise..

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February 09, 2017, 10:35:15 AM
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I'm thinking if we could integrate Shapeshift to the walet and have them add ZCL. That would be very useful.
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February 09, 2017, 06:49:14 PM
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I'm thinking if we could integrate Shapeshift to the walet and have them add ZCL. That would be very useful.

That's in the works.

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February 09, 2017, 07:00:39 PM
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In case you have missed it:

New ZClassic Wallet eleos.

https://github.com/z-classic/zclassic/releases

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