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cbuchner1 (OP)
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June 19, 2014, 07:18:10 PM |
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On the other hand me being the frontman + scapegoat distracts attention from the real players in my team. Christian
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herbiehasher
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June 19, 2014, 07:31:02 PM |
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On the other hand me being the frontman + scapegoat distracts attention from the real players in my team. Christian Well, there is no need to get nasty about it. Whatever, if it work it works, if not it doesn't whatever. it's not like I'm going to go to university again and get a degree to learn how to program anything. Those guys need to chill.
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dav1199
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June 19, 2014, 07:52:36 PM |
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They are just jealous they can't do the same i guess ... Why blame Christian and his team for doing what they do? Mostly everyone would do it if they were part of it.. And i don't see how they are threatening the coin .. if the miner was out in the wild instead of a couple of high hashrate miner there would be tons of them which would more than likely drive the price down for anything on the same tech or almost.. Kinda like what happened to HVC as soon as the gpu miner went out.
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cbuchner1 (OP)
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June 19, 2014, 07:59:32 PM |
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They are just jealous they can't do the same i guess ... Why blame Christian and his team for doing what they do? Mostly everyone would do it if they were part of it..
The thing is, I could already have cashed in bigger on Maxcoin. Much bigger. I didn't know enough about AWS back then. And I shouldn't have open sourced the miner the hour before the launch. I should have mined for 2 days on hundreds or thousands of GPU instances and only then open sourced it. Instant millionnaire. Well, well, well... You learn as you go. Christian
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June 19, 2014, 08:02:29 PM |
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They complain because Christian is "destroying" the coin because he can mine more coins than them. Apparently, the answer is to make the software open source so that they can all destroy the coin together. Skewed logic to support a false argument.
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dav1199
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June 19, 2014, 08:04:41 PM |
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Hehe pretty awesome , must be pretty profitable atm knew it was that back when you said you was doing profit comparable to MAX ( couldn't really be anything else ) I missed the MAX train back then .. was too busy with other stuff. But it is cool you get rewarded for your work it is as it should be tbh .. If i had the knowledge to do it i would too
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June 19, 2014, 08:19:45 PM |
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They are just jealous they can't do the same i guess ... Why blame Christian and his team for doing what they do? Mostly everyone would do it if they were part of it..
The thing is, I could already have cashed in bigger on Maxcoin. Much bigger. I didn't know enough about AWS back then. And I shouldn't have open sourced the miner the hour before the launch. I should have mined for 2 days on hundreds or thousands of GPU instances and only then open sourced it. Instant millionnaire. Well, well, well... You learn as you go. Christian to be honest, I would do the same. I recently started learning gpu programming with cuda, and I just think it's a pain in the ass. Of course, doing some basic calculations on the gpu is simple, but porting an algo is not. all that stupid memory copying is just annoying. so, from my point of view: grab as much money as you can. I don't know a single developer who can live on donations (because they are...well...rare...)
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enerbyte
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June 19, 2014, 08:28:52 PM |
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Off topic but important! Good evening girls and guys. Ok there is a new account which is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345637He sent to many - including me - a private invitation message to download his " new " RPG game and try it, note that that account had been registred today 19th of June. I would like to warn everyone from trying this RPG game cause it is mostly nothing but a code used to hack into accounts to steal users money from different trading sites, it had happened before when the same RPG game had been sent to many users and they lost their money which had been sold and transferred by a hacker. Don't forget to activate the 2FA at any of your trading sites and keep your self safe. Good luck..
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cbuchner1 (OP)
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June 19, 2014, 08:34:32 PM |
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Off topic but important!
yes please ignore unsolicited PMs and emails trying to convince you to download and try install binary code. I got the same email. Went right to the trash bin. Christian
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DemosMirak
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June 19, 2014, 08:37:41 PM |
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Off topic but important! Good evening girls and guys. Ok there is a new account which is: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=345637He sent to many - including me - a private invitation message to download his " new " RPG game and try it, note that that account had been registred today 19th of June. I would like to warn everyone from trying this RPG game cause it is mostly nothing but a code used to hack into accounts to steal users money from different trading sites, it had happened before when the same RPG game had been sent to many users and they lost their money which had been sold and transferred by a hacker. Don't forget to activate the 2FA at any of your trading sites and keep your self safe. Good luck.. Got a PM like that some time ago. Googled the game first, turned out the bitcoin game the PM was talking about had the same name, but a slightly different spelling in the webaddress. Kinda ruined it for me. Nvidia X11 work yet? I tried the ccminer with a Quadro 4000, Quadro FX 380 and quadro FX 400. They don't show up poolside at all, though they appear to be running in the dos window.
Those are old cards, and the only card that will run x11 might be the quadro 4000 (couldn't find the fx 400, is that a typo?), the fx 380 is certainly too old. Hell, I'm not sure about the 4000 as well, if bombadils miner supports CUDA 2.0, you're fine, if it's only 2.1, your screwed. In that case you can only do older versions of CUDA and CC miner and see if you can find a profitable coin with those algos, but I don't suspect much of it. http://cudamining.cc/url/releases try the 2.0 release of V1.02 with X13 I believe that is the most recent one supporting X11 and old CUDA.
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June 19, 2014, 08:40:36 PM |
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Off topic but important!
yes please ignore unsolicited PMs and emails trying to convince you to download and try install binary code. I got the same email. Went right to the trash bin. Christian received it few days ago, deleted instantly (after having checked the noob status)
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June 19, 2014, 08:45:52 PM |
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Nvidia X11 work yet? I tried the ccminer with a Quadro 4000, Quadro FX 380 and quadro FX 400. They don't show up poolside at all, though they appear to be running in the dos window.
Those are old cards, and the only card that will run x11 might be the quadro 4000 (couldn't find the fx 400, is that a typo?), the fx 380 is certainly too old. Hell, I'm not sure about the 4000 as well, if bombadils miner supports CUDA 2.0, you're fine, if it's only 2.1, your screwed. In that case you can only do older versions of CUDA and CC miner and see if you can find a profitable coin with those algos, but I don't suspect much of it. http://cudamining.cc/url/releases try the 2.0 release of V1.02 with X13 I believe that is the most recent one supporting X11 and old CUDA. [/quote I will try thanks. The Quadro 4000 is listed, but it just crashes when I try scrypt N, works on scrypt still. I'm interested becasue all our computers here have the Quadro 4000, I have access to about 100 Computer Aided Design stations, which sit idle 16hours a day.
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djm34
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June 19, 2014, 08:55:59 PM |
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anybody has tried the new coin shinycoin with his high end (16+ Gb memory) computer ?
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DemosMirak
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June 19, 2014, 09:12:43 PM |
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I want to try and mine a little bit of CPU coins on the side, any recomendations? I heard about Monero, any other, better alternatives? I have a i7-470k in my main, and a Q9550 in my old rig mining on the side. Edit: and how about this site: http://cpucoinlist.com/? Edit: I would have a preference for algos that don't tend to turn your rig into a unresponsive heap of heat generating mining stuff, I would like to use it a little bit for standard browsing and youtube stuff, which I can still do with an slightly older version of CCminer (without K-Groestl), the newest version makes it lag a bit.
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herbiehasher
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June 19, 2014, 09:17:32 PM |
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Nvidia X11 work yet? I tried the ccminer with a Quadro 4000, Quadro FX 380 and quadro FX 400. They don't show up poolside at all, though they appear to be running in the dos window.
Those are old cards, and the only card that will run x11 might be the quadro 4000 (couldn't find the fx 400, is that a typo?), the fx 380 is certainly too old. Hell, I'm not sure about the 4000 as well, if bombadils miner supports CUDA 2.0, you're fine, if it's only 2.1, your screwed. In that case you can only do older versions of CUDA and CC miner and see if you can find a profitable coin with those algos, but I don't suspect much of it. http://cudamining.cc/url/releases try the 2.0 release of V1.02 with X13 I believe that is the most recent one supporting X11 and old CUDA. [/quote I will try thanks. The Quadro 4000 is listed, but it just crashes when I try scrypt N, works on scrypt still. I'm interested becasue all our computers here have the Quadro 4000, I have access to about 100 Computer Aided Design stations, which sit idle 16hours a day. Hey there, yeah it's working for the quadro 4000! computer 2.0, release 1.02. thanks! now, each puter has 16 cores of processing power.....
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DemosMirak
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June 19, 2014, 09:40:06 PM |
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Nvidia X11 work yet? I tried the ccminer with a Quadro 4000, Quadro FX 380 and quadro FX 400. They don't show up poolside at all, though they appear to be running in the dos window.
Those are old cards, and the only card that will run x11 might be the quadro 4000 (couldn't find the fx 400, is that a typo?), the fx 380 is certainly too old. Hell, I'm not sure about the 4000 as well, if bombadils miner supports CUDA 2.0, you're fine, if it's only 2.1, your screwed. In that case you can only do older versions of CUDA and CC miner and see if you can find a profitable coin with those algos, but I don't suspect much of it. http://cudamining.cc/url/releases try the 2.0 release of V1.02 with X13 I believe that is the most recent one supporting X11 and old CUDA. [/quote I will try thanks. The Quadro 4000 is listed, but it just crashes when I try scrypt N, works on scrypt still. I'm interested becasue all our computers here have the Quadro 4000, I have access to about 100 Computer Aided Design stations, which sit idle 16hours a day. Hey there, yeah it's working for the quadro 4000! computer 2.0, release 1.02. thanks! now, each puter has 16 cores of processing power..... Good luck, hope you get some profit out of it. Try taking a look at bombadils profitcalculator ( https://github.com/KBomba/cuda-profit-calc/releases) for what coin to choose (don't forget to benchmark the algos you want looking at. Just specify the algo, remove the server adress, workername an password, and add --benchmark to it, and look what your average hashes are).
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GoldBit89
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June 19, 2014, 10:20:45 PM |
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What should a miner be mining now a days with a 750 ti? using cudaminer and or ccminer? and what pools?
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June 19, 2014, 10:24:47 PM |
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The thing is, I could already have cashed in bigger on Maxcoin. Much bigger. I didn't know enough about AWS back then. And I shouldn't have open sourced the miner the hour before the launch. I should have mined for 2 days on hundreds or thousands of GPU instances and only then open sourced it. Instant millionnaire.
Christian, I'm not out to bash anyone that puts in the work to get an advantage over the rest of the crowd, and I certainly respect your well deserved profits. But I have been trying for some time now, to explain how 'destructive' is the process of a closed source miner taking the majority of new coins for any currency (and worse as it remains private). The sole reason that I stay as far away from BBR as I can, is that I trust that you are making most of the blocks. From an economical standpoint, it makes absolutely no sense for me to invest in a coin that is mostly owned (or mostly generated) by a single individual or a small group of 'privileged actors'. This should be fairly obvious to anyone that's been around for a few alt's that have come and gone carrying the flag of 'the next big thing'. Again my recommendation of a few days back: mine the heck of it for a couple of days (whatever you find reasonable), then hold the stash, and release the miner to the public. This will eventually drive a greater adoption rate, allow for a lot more people to become invested and become interested parties in that currency, and promote community growth as others try to improve on your work, fork it, etc... If the coin has merits, it will sustain greater difficulty, and with it, higher value (long term). As it is right now, you are the strongest single force driving BBR down (inadvertently or not). Do as you will, I wish you the best of luck either way! They are just jealous they can't do the same i guess ... Why blame Christian and his team for doing what they do? Mostly everyone would do it if they were part of it.. And i don't see how they are threatening the coin .. if the miner was out in the wild instead of a couple of high hashrate miner there would be tons of them which would more than likely drive the price down for anything on the same tech or almost.. Kinda like what happened to HVC as soon as the gpu miner went out.
This makes no sense at all. Fun fact: HVC's most highly advertised technical merit, was that it would be CPU-only, so yes, a GPU miner took it down in value. Once a GPU miner was available, HVC was down to virtually 'no merits' at all to carry it forward. This bares no resemblance whatsoever with the debate here over closed vs open source. How they are threatening the coin: Anyone buying BBR now, is in no small part, just sending money over to Christian's pockets (though not his alone, I'm sure). Do you think that's a sustainable currency? Cheers, ~ Myagui
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dav1199
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June 19, 2014, 10:41:01 PM |
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I honestly couldn't care less. I don't see it any differently than anyone having a huge farm and who mine a coin from the start and own most of it. Sure he got a better miner than others , but i am sure there is a lot of hardware along to go with it.
If the situation happen here then the design of BBR was .. bad and i don't see what is so special about this coin. That is all. There were no good tools to mine ,when this happens you open your coin to this issue. Someone made a good miner and he uses it , and i find it hard to believe he is the only one that have a functionnal wild keccak miner out there. So what ? Good for those guys , i wish i had the knowledge to do the same. It is their own right to share it or not. And it isn't ''closed source'' like it is being thrown around all over , it just is not public. I am sure once he release it out it will be open source... This argument make no sense to me.
All what you say is very nice and ethical and all , but this just isn't carebearland. If ppl have an advantage they will use it , it is just how it is. He chose to make it a public fact .. That is his choice. He could have just said nothing and probably won't say anything next time this happen. Is it good for the health of the coin ? .. No probably not. But it doesn't make any difference.
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