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April 04, 2013, 05:48:28 PM |
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So here it is...
SC 50GH/s 2499$ from now on...
Will not affect pre-order so far... But do affect all new orders.
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April 04, 2013, 05:49:19 PM |
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Wouldn't be so bad if delivery were guaranteed and shipping immediate, though.
"Price gouging" is fine in a true market, free from external manipulation/state intervention.
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April 04, 2013, 05:54:26 PM |
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Not only is the price up, but the performance is down !
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April 04, 2013, 05:54:50 PM |
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source?
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April 04, 2013, 05:55:00 PM |
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Will they send me 1 unit @ 50Gh/s and 2X 5Gh/s since I paid for 60Gh/s? Maybe I'm too optimistic on that one ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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April 04, 2013, 05:55:35 PM |
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April 04, 2013, 05:56:33 PM |
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Will they send me 1 unit @ 50Gh/s and 2X 5Gh/s since I paid for 60Gh/s? Maybe I'm too optimistic ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) Thats the plan. They promised shipping the hashrate to all pre-orders.
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April 04, 2013, 05:56:57 PM |
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Why weren't you saying this about Avalon? They want 75 BTC ($9700+ USD) for their 64GH/s machine and 88 BTC ($11,440) for their 86+GH/s machines.
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ehoffman (OP)
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April 04, 2013, 05:57:13 PM |
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Yes, however, their ASIC are made. Their entry cost are made. So, from now on, producing more ASIC is dirt cheap. I just don't like the fact that they upgrade prices without notice. A simple "You get discount if you pre-order" would have been the least.
I do have pre-order 1 SC, but I'm starting to wonder if there's some bad faith at BFL. I will get the guaranteed 60GH/s, although from their latest tweets, they seem to have big power problem. So they will probably ship me (and other who pre-ordered) 2 boards at 30GH/s. So let's see if people find a way to overclock. Will all 8 cores be populated at lower speed, or full speed on 4 chips populated. Well, time (hopefully) will tell.
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April 04, 2013, 05:57:48 PM |
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April 04, 2013, 05:57:50 PM |
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Why weren't you saying this about Avalon? They want 75 BTC ($9700+ USD) for their 64GH/s machine and 88 BTC ($11,440) for their 86+GH/s machines.
Avalon's delivered hardware.
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April 04, 2013, 05:58:29 PM |
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Why weren't you saying this about Avalon? They want 75 BTC ($9700+ USD) for their 64GH/s machine and 88 BTC ($11,440) for their 86+GH/s machines.
Avalon have actually shipped products into enduser hands, therein lies the difference.
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April 04, 2013, 05:59:47 PM |
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Nothing about power consumption on the site, but they have a new estimated shipping date ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) And all sales are FINAL ! "Pre-order Terms: Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of April 2013. Products are shipped according to placement in the order queue, and delivery may take 2 months or more after order. All sales are final"
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April 04, 2013, 06:01:01 PM |
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Nothing about power consumption on the site, but they have a new estimated shipping date ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) And all sales are FINAL ! "Pre-order Terms: Bitforce SC (ASIC) products are in final stage development with initial shipping scheduled for the last half of April 2013. Products are shipped according to placement in the order queue, and delivery may take 2 months or more after order. All sales are final" Follow the Twitter feed... https://twitter.com/BFL_News ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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April 04, 2013, 06:01:53 PM |
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Why weren't you saying this about Avalon? They want 75 BTC ($9700+ USD) for their 64GH/s machine and 88 BTC ($11,440) for their 86+GH/s machines.
Avalon have actually shipped products into enduser hands, therein lies the difference. I'm going to hold my tongue till units ship but honestly you guys make no sense. If/When BFL delivers; will you guys own up to the fact that those who paid 75 BTC for a 60gh/s unit were fleeced?
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April 04, 2013, 06:07:36 PM |
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I love how BFL is doing everything that Team Avalon is doing...
Except you know, actually shipping a product.
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April 04, 2013, 06:07:51 PM |
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My guess is BFL wants to actively discourage new orders due to their supply problems and chip issues. By raising the price and lowering performance, some people will still be interested and place orders bringing in much needed revenue, but they can avoid a huge flood of orders once they start shipping (that they probably can't fill in a timely manner)
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April 04, 2013, 06:10:42 PM |
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A BFL shipment is far away. What they currently showed is nothing they can deliver. Not even with only 25Gh/s and only 150W. How do you want to cool the chips on this small board with their current cooling solution? Do you think they plan to deliver a water/cryogenic cooling with their devices?
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April 04, 2013, 06:14:40 PM |
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I love how BFL is doing everything that Team Avalon is doing...
Except you know, actually shipping a product.
This +1 ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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April 04, 2013, 06:16:26 PM |
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BFL and Avalon are just following supply and demand
supply of ASIC devices is near zero at the moment demand for miners is high since BTC are now > $100 USD and there are only 2 games in town, Avalon and BFL (or buying shares in asicminer)
how much it actually costs to make has almost no impact on price. At some point in the future, the supply of Avalons and SCs will be higher and prices will come down.
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