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June 12, 2013, 03:54:17 PM
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I just enabled vardiff on the DGC pool.  Going to see how it goes overnight, and possibly revert in the morning.  Right now efficiency is hovering around 90-95% but the number of orphans hasn't increased as far as I can tell.

Calculation for last N will still be based on diff 32, for now.

Does this mean if someone's is set at 64 they are only getting half the shares?

Yes but the payments code takes difficulty into account.

Got it. Based on how you said it, it seemed more like you were counting all as d32 shares, :p.

So what you meant is the number of shares COUNTED for n is based on d32? Such as (assuming we did N=5):

Before: 32, 32, 32, 32, 32, 32 (the first one would be knocked off now)
Now: 32, 64, 64, 64, 32, 32 (the first one would be knocked off)
Later: 32, 64, 64, 32 (the first would be knocked off since each 64 = the same as 2x 32's)

Is that right?

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June 12, 2013, 04:05:59 PM
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I just enabled vardiff on the DGC pool.  Going to see how it goes overnight, and possibly revert in the morning.  Right now efficiency is hovering around 90-95% but the number of orphans hasn't increased as far as I can tell.

Calculation for last N will still be based on diff 32, for now.

Does this mean if someone's is set at 64 they are only getting half the shares?

Yes but the payments code takes difficulty into account.

Got it. Based on how you said it, it seemed more like you were counting all as d32 shares, :p.

So what you meant is the number of shares COUNTED for n is based on d32? Such as (assuming we did N=5):

Before: 32, 32, 32, 32, 32, 32 (the first one would be knocked off now)
Now: 32, 64, 64, 64, 32, 32 (the first one would be knocked off)
Later: 32, 64, 64, 32 (the first would be knocked off since each 64 = the same as 2x 32's)

Is that right?

Correct, N is calculated for scrypt coins as block_difficulty * 65536 / share_difficulty.

With vardiff, optimally share_difficulty would be the average difficulty we've been handing out, but I haven't implemented that in the code yet, so for now it's just set to 32.  Which means more shares than normal will be included in the calculation. (Rather than less)

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June 12, 2013, 04:18:40 PM
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I just enabled vardiff on the DGC pool.  Going to see how it goes overnight, and possibly revert in the morning.  Right now efficiency is hovering around 90-95% but the number of orphans hasn't increased as far as I can tell.

Calculation for last N will still be based on diff 32, for now.

Does this mean if someone's is set at 64 they are only getting half the shares?

Yes but the payments code takes difficulty into account.

Got it. Based on how you said it, it seemed more like you were counting all as d32 shares, :p.

So what you meant is the number of shares COUNTED for n is based on d32? Such as (assuming we did N=5):

Before: 32, 32, 32, 32, 32, 32 (the first one would be knocked off now)
Now: 32, 64, 64, 64, 32, 32 (the first one would be knocked off)
Later: 32, 64, 64, 32 (the first would be knocked off since each 64 = the same as 2x 32's)

Is that right?

Correct, N is calculated for scrypt coins as block_difficulty * 65536 / share_difficulty.

With vardiff, optimally share_difficulty would be the average difficulty we've been handing out, but I haven't implemented that in the code yet, so for now it's just set to 32.  Which means more shares than normal will be included in the calculation. (Rather than less)

Makes sense. Thanks for clarifying this, Smiley.

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June 12, 2013, 04:33:13 PM
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I just enabled vardiff on the DGC pool.  Going to see how it goes overnight, and possibly revert in the morning.  Right now efficiency is hovering around 90-95% but the number of orphans hasn't increased as far as I can tell.

Calculation for last N will still be based on diff 32, for now.

Does this mean if someone's is set at 64 they are only getting half the shares?

If we set higher difficulty, do we get higher payout per share?

Yes, share value is based off its difficulty. Take twice as long/difficult to process it = twice as much value.

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My 2x machines using cgminer 3.2.0 had the same disconnect issue as above yesterday, so I switched them back to 3.1.0. No problems for ~12hrs and counting. I wonder why more people aren't on this pool...

We're getting more popular.. 200 connections on the multiport now Smiley

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June 12, 2013, 05:09:35 PM
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Share diff changed to 32 for LTC.

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June 12, 2013, 07:18:59 PM
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I wonder why more people aren't on this pool...

We're getting more popular.. 200 connections on the multiport now Smiley

Aww yeah! New coins to celebrate Cheesy BTB, NVC, LKY, FRK, MEM... so many to choose from!
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June 12, 2013, 07:32:48 PM
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I wonder why more people aren't on this pool...

We're getting more popular.. 200 connections on the multiport now Smiley

Aww yeah! New coins to celebrate Cheesy BTB, NVC, LKY, FRK, MEM... so many to choose from!

People voted for NVC in the poll, however I'm thinking LKY might be a better choice, it has  a better 14-day average profit ratio and much easier blocks (which means less shares = less load on the db)


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June 12, 2013, 08:12:46 PM
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I wonder why more people aren't on this pool...

We're getting more popular.. 200 connections on the multiport now Smiley

Aww yeah! New coins to celebrate Cheesy BTB, NVC, LKY, FRK, MEM... so many to choose from!

People voted for NVC in the poll, however I'm thinking LKY might be a better choice, it has  a better 14-day average profit ratio and much easier blocks (which means less shares = less load on the db)


I think average is less useful here, we want the ones that spend some time as #1. If they can do so with just difficulty spikes and a stable price, then it's perfect. If it has a good average, but never spikes up, all it's really doing is providing a safety net. I wouldn't put too much weight into a popularity poll, you know what will work best Smiley
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June 12, 2013, 09:03:07 PM
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I wonder why more people aren't on this pool...

We're getting more popular.. 200 connections on the multiport now Smiley

Aww yeah! New coins to celebrate Cheesy BTB, NVC, LKY, FRK, MEM... so many to choose from!

People voted for NVC in the poll, however I'm thinking LKY might be a better choice, it has  a better 14-day average profit ratio and much easier blocks (which means less shares = less load on the db)



I became a sheep. I voted NVC just because most others did. I trust your decision on what coin(s) are the best to go with, Smiley.

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June 12, 2013, 09:05:23 PM
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I wonder why more people aren't on this pool...

We're getting more popular.. 200 connections on the multiport now Smiley

Aww yeah! New coins to celebrate Cheesy BTB, NVC, LKY, FRK, MEM... so many to choose from!

People voted for NVC in the poll, however I'm thinking LKY might be a better choice, it has  a better 14-day average profit ratio and much easier blocks (which means less shares = less load on the db)


I think average is less useful here, we want the ones that spend some time as #1. If they can do so with just difficulty spikes and a stable price, then it's perfect. If it has a good average, but never spikes up, all it's really doing is providing a safety net. I wouldn't put too much weight into a popularity poll, you know what will work best Smiley

I think you've got it right, and I also want to avoid Cryptsy-only coins as they seem easily manipulated and generally don't have much volume behind them.  So maybe LKY is not that great of a choice.

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June 12, 2013, 09:22:22 PM
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Is there any way to unlock the auto-payment address? I don't see a way to change it to another address. Thanks.

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June 12, 2013, 09:22:40 PM
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I think average is less useful here, we want the ones that spend some time as #1. If they can do so with just difficulty spikes and a stable price, then it's perfect. If it has a good average, but never spikes up, all it's really doing is providing a safety net. I wouldn't put too much weight into a popularity poll, you know what will work best Smiley
I agree, we have Litecoin as our safety net, we want to add other coins that spike, so we can take advantage of them when they do.
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June 12, 2013, 09:23:02 PM
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I swear I'm not whoring +1's but can someone check if the +1 button at the bottom of the page is working for you?

It's not working for me.

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June 12, 2013, 09:23:19 PM
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Is there any way to unlock the auto-payment address? I don't see a way to change it to another address. Thanks.

Email me with your username.

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June 12, 2013, 09:26:00 PM
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I swear I'm not whoring +1's but can someone check if the +1 button at the bottom of the page is working for you?

It's not working for me.

TAKE IT LIKE THE WHORE YOU ARE!!!

Erm, yes, the +1 worked fine for me (changed the icon and said "You +1'd this as (namehere)."

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June 12, 2013, 09:27:01 PM
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I swear I'm not whoring +1's but can someone check if the +1 button at the bottom of the page is working for you?

It's not working for me.

TAKE IT LIKE THE WHORE YOU ARE!!!

Erm, yes, the +1 worked fine for me (changed the icon and said "You +1'd this as (namehere)."

Weird, maybe it's a browser setting then.  Thanks Smiley

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June 12, 2013, 09:30:07 PM
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I swear I'm not whoring +1's but can someone check if the +1 button at the bottom of the page is working for you?

It's not working for me.

TAKE IT LIKE THE WHORE YOU ARE!!!

Erm, yes, the +1 worked fine for me (changed the icon and said "You +1'd this as (namehere)."

Weird, maybe it's a browser setting then.  Thanks Smiley

NP! I'm using FireFox if that matters. Should work on any browser though because it looks like the default setup for the buttons.

A good way to try is to run Incognito (FF or Chrome) and then give it a go. That disables things that may otherwise keep it from working if it's related to an addon.

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June 12, 2013, 09:41:41 PM
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I swear I'm not whoring +1's but can someone check if the +1 button at the bottom of the page is working for you?

It's not working for me.

TAKE IT LIKE THE WHORE YOU ARE!!!

Erm, yes, the +1 worked fine for me (changed the icon and said "You +1'd this as (namehere)."

Weird, maybe it's a browser setting then.  Thanks Smiley

NP! I'm using FireFox if that matters. Should work on any browser though because it looks like the default setup for the buttons.

A good way to try is to run Incognito (FF or Chrome) and then give it a go. That disables things that may otherwise keep it from working if it's related to an addon.

I think it's because I'm blocking third party cookies.

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June 12, 2013, 11:11:50 PM
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Are you making updates to the DB? The round shares keep disappearing? And then they come back, and go away again over the last 30 mins or so.
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Are you making updates to the DB? The round shares keep disappearing? And then they come back, and go away again over the last 30 mins or so.

There's something going on with the estimates script, looking into it.  Shares are not being lost.

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