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October 21, 2017, 09:15:34 AM
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The fall of Bitconnect will be of a biblical magnitude.

The shit will hit the fan.

The GREED is the indicator.

So so true. Pride comes before the fall.

It will be an epic and historic fall like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Q3PNj3tRW4

To see how high the fall really was (0:45): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTeXKHkNqgk


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Bernie Madoff was doing the same ! He was running $50 billion ponzi scheme. And what was the end of the story ?

Bernie is serving a 150 year sentence at a federal prison.

Both of his sons are dead !

His wife is in a mental asylum !

His houses, cars and everything else (including his socks) were sold on public auctions.

His mates and affiliates are killed or imprisoned !

The same will happen to bitconnect creators, affiliates and advertisers, but they do not think about this yet.

Nobody will let you go with such amount of stolen money !
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Bernie Madoff was doing the same ! He was running $50 billion ponzi scheme. And what was the end of the story ?

Bernie is serving a 150 year sentence at a federal prison.

Both of his sons are dead !

His wife is in a mental asylum !

His houses, cars and everything else (including his socks) were sold on public auctions.

His mates and affiliates are killed or imprisoned !

The same will happen to bitconnect creators, affiliates and advertisers, but they do not think about this yet.

Nobody will let you go with such amount of stolen money !

Yes, and according to the german wikipedia the overall financial damage was even 65 billion USD. There were 4800 victims.
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October 21, 2017, 10:59:28 AM
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so do we actually know who exactly is behind bitconnect?

the top promoters seem to be the only public figures....

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Bernie Madoff was doing the same ! He was running $50 billion ponzi scheme. And what was the end of the story ?

Bernie is serving a 150 year sentence at a federal prison.

Both of his sons are dead !

His wife is in a mental asylum !

His houses, cars and everything else (including his socks) were sold on public auctions.

His mates and affiliates are killed or imprisoned !

The same will happen to bitconnect creators, affiliates and advertisers, but they do not think about this yet.

Nobody will let you go with such amount of stolen money !

Пиpaмидa этo кoгдa чacть дeнeг oт нoвыx вклaдoв pacпpeдeляeтcя ввepx пo иepapxии.
Tы пpинёc 100$, y тeбя 20$ oтняли и oтдaли нaвepx твoeмy cпoнcopy. И тeбe чтoб зapaбoтaть пpибыль нaдo cpoчнo иcкaть нoвыx лoxoв.

B Биткoннeктe инaчe, ты пpинёc 100$, и oни вce нa тeбя paбoтaют. Tы eжeднeвнo пoлyчaeшь пpoфит co 100$  Tвoeмy cпoнcopy и вышe cиcтeмa плaтит co cвoeгo кapмaнa кaк блaгoдapнocть зa тo, чтo ты eё дeлaeшь cильнee вливaя в нeё кaпитaл, ты дaёшь тopгoвoмy бoтy ликвиднocть для yвeличeния oбъёмa тopгoв. Чeм бoльшим кoличecтвoм дeнeг и мoнeт бyдeт oблaдaть бoт, тeм бoльшe oн зapaбoтaeт кaждый дeнь для yчacтникoв cиcтeмы.
Peфepaльнaя cиcтeмa дaнa yчacтникaм кaк инcтpyмeнт, чтo бы BЫ нe cxoдя c дивaнa нaчaли зapaбaтывaть дeньги. Hy пyтaйтe peфepaльнyю cиcтeмy Биткoнeктa c бaнaльнoй пиpaмидoй.

Baм и тeм ктo нe вepит, a тaкжe вceм тpoлям  дaнa вoзмoжнocть eжeднeвнo, eжeминyтнo вывoдить в биткax cвoи нaкoплeния. И вepишь? BCEM BCЁ ПЛATИTCЯ


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Bernie Madoff was doing the same ! He was running $50 billion ponzi scheme. And what was the end of the story ?

Bernie is serving a 150 year sentence at a federal prison.

Both of his sons are dead !

His wife is in a mental asylum !

His houses, cars and everything else (including his socks) were sold on public auctions.

His mates and affiliates are killed or imprisoned !

The same will happen to bitconnect creators, affiliates and advertisers, but they do not think about this yet.

Nobody will let you go with such amount of stolen money !

Yes, and according to the german wikipedia the overall financial damage was even 65 billion USD. There were 4800 victims.

Here is the information you seek.  It points to known accomplices and how it may all be tied together.
Redditor /u/jam-hay put together an impressive list of revealing information which makes it even more plausible that Bitconnect is a ponzi scheme.  It links individuals who have promoted ponzi schemes previously with Bitconnect officially.  Submitting this as a separate thread for exposure.

"I think I know who's behind Bitconnect...run with me on this:" - /u/jam-hay

===========================
Rolando Anosa, Bitconnect event promoter
===========================

=========February 2016=========

* Prior to the Bitconnect, **Rolando Anosa is pushing a digital currency called Zewang** (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCzPZVMRGuI)

* Zewang was called out for being a Ponzi scheme(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO7WSHzS43c)

=========March 8, 2016=========

* The very first post on Bitconnect's G+ profile is the announcement of a Bitconnect Seminar in the Philippines, they say that it was **organized by Bitconnect promoter, Rolando Anosa**.(https://imgur.com/a/wd5F7)

=========March 2016=========

* If you Youtube "Rolando Anosa" it takes you to a video in his channel of the Seminar from back in March 2016(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q6xoXn7ZQo)

* He also has another Youtube channel under the name "Rolly Añosa"(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVzJnd3JAyKkt9gmcDY21Yg)

* In this channel he's **heavily pushing MMM, a well known Global Ponzi scheme**, before crypto.(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMM_(Ponzi_scheme_company\))

* I don't think this guy is responsible himself, however I do think he's first been a promoter working for MMM and why I think they are all linked.

===========================
Bitconnect posts about MMM
===========================

========= January 2017=========

* Bitconnect has strangely posted about MMM on their blog back in Jan 2017(https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/418/pyramid-scheme-mmm-moving-to-bitcoin-for-security-reasons/)

* Which leads me to think it's a double bluff and in fact they are all one and the same underpinned by MMM the next generation.

===========================
Jonel Javellana, Bitconnect event promoter
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=========October 2017=========

* Here's another: Bitconnect announced that their second Philippines conference was to be **headed up by Jonel Javellana**(https://bitconnect.co/system-news/82/bitconnect-conference-philippines)

* **Go to Jonel Javellana's youtube page and what's he promoting?  MMM again**(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChAMsohsJg4-px9hsQmjTQw)


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MMM
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=========Back in October 2015=========

* This isn't MMM's first go at Crypto, have a look at this Bitcointalk thread.(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1211947.0)

* The guy behind them all, Sergey Mavrodi(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Mavrodi) has morphed in to some kind of evil Vitalik Buterin(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalik_Buterin) over the years.

========= April 2016=========

* MMM pulled the plug on their other crypto based ponzi scheme because they couldn't pay out the interest(https://news.bitcoin.com/mmm-global-cant-sustain-bitcoin-scheme/)

* Bitconnect blog posting about Sergey Mavrodi's ponzi scheme crimes(https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/138/bitcoin-ponzi-scheme-mmm-global-under-investigation-by-hawks/)

* Interestingly, ponzi schemes aren't illegal in Russia

* Bitconnect currently sits at a market cap of $1,537,529,896, I think the current speculative market has created the perfect storm for it.

=========November 2016=========

* Bitconnect is on the go, plugged by MMM Global(http://mmmglobal-bitcoin.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/bisnis-mining-coin-terbaru-bitconnect.html)

* If you have crypto locked away in Bitconnect this is undoubtedly what's going to happen again at some point. Isn't FUD, its just what they do.
 





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October 21, 2017, 04:32:55 PM
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Redditor /u/jam-hay put together an impressive list of revealing information which makes it even more plausible that Bitconnect is a ponzi scheme.  It links individuals who have promoted ponzi schemes previously with Bitconnect officially.  Submitting this as a separate thread for exposure.

"I think I know who's behind Bitconnect...run with me on this:" - /u/jam-hay

===========================
Rolando Anosa, Bitconnect event promoter
===========================

=========February 2016=========

* Prior to the Bitconnect, **Rolando Anosa is pushing a digital currency called Zewang** (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCzPZVMRGuI)

* Zewang was called out for being a Ponzi scheme(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO7WSHzS43c)

=========March 8, 2016=========

* The very first post on Bitconnect's G+ profile is the announcement of a Bitconnect Seminar in the Philippines, they say that it was **organized by Bitconnect promoter, Rolando Anosa**.(https://imgur.com/a/wd5F7)

=========March 2016=========

* If you Youtube "Rolando Anosa" it takes you to a video in his channel of the Seminar from back in March 2016(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q6xoXn7ZQo)

* He also has another Youtube channel under the name "Rolly Añosa"(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVzJnd3JAyKkt9gmcDY21Yg)

* In this channel he's **heavily pushing MMM, a well known Global Ponzi scheme**, before crypto.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMM_(Ponzi_scheme_company)

* I don't think this guy is responsible himself, however I do think he's first been a promoter working for MMM and why I think they are all linked.

===========================
Bitconnect posts about MMM
===========================

========= January 2017=========


* Bitconnect has strangely posted about MMM on their blog back in Jan 2017(https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/418/pyramid-scheme-mmm-moving-to-bitcoin-for-security-reasons/)

* Which leads me to think it's a double bluff and in fact they are all one and the same underpinned by MMM the next generation.

===========================
Jonel Javellana, Bitconnect event promoter
===========================

=========October 2017=========

* Here's another: Bitconnect announced that their second Philippines conference was to be **headed up by Jonel Javellana**(https://bitconnect.co/system-news/82/bitconnect-conference-philippines)

* **Go to Jonel Javellana's youtube page and what's he promoting?  MMM again**(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChAMsohsJg4-px9hsQmjTQw)


===========================
MMM
===========================

=========Back in October 2015=========

* This isn't MMM's first go at Crypto, have a look at this Bitcointalk thread.(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1211947.0)

* The guy behind them all, Sergey Mavrodi(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Mavrodi) has morphed in to some kind of evil Vitalik Buterin(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalik_Buterin) over the years.

========= April 2016=========

* MMM pulled the plug on their other crypto based ponzi scheme because they couldn't pay out the interest(https://news.bitcoin.com/mmm-global-cant-sustain-bitcoin-scheme/)

* Bitconnect blog posting about Sergey Mavrodi's ponzi scheme crimes(https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/138/bitcoin-ponzi-scheme-mmm-global-under-investigation-by-hawks/)

* Interestingly, ponzi schemes aren't illegal in Russia

* Bitconnect currently sits at a market cap of $1,537,529,896, I think the current speculative market has created the perfect storm for it.

=========November 2016=========

* Bitconnect is on the go, plugged by MMM Global(http://mmmglobal-bitcoin.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/bisnis-mining-coin-terbaru-bitconnect.html)

* If you have crypto locked away in Bitconnect this is undoubtedly what's going to happen again at some point. Isn't FUD, its just what they do.
 





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Pour ceux qui sont français j'essaie d'établir tranquillement une communauté servant à se renseigner à propos du BCC ainsi que de créer une team de d'enfer !

https://boulard83.wixsite.com/bitconnect

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Pour ceux qui sont français j'essaie d'établir tranquillement une communauté servant à se renseigner à propos du BCC ainsi que de créer une team de d'enfer !

https://boulard83.wixsite.com/bitconnect

Translated: For those who are French I try to quietly establish a community to learn about the BCC and create a team of hell!

https://boulard83.wixsite.com/bitconnect

Speaking of hell, this is how kowtowers of BitConnect feel about their love: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rBvTqao1RE&feature=youtu.be&t=460
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 Wink Wink Wink

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Prompt investment from a 30% coin a month is not an exchange? Is it worth investing money Huh
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Prompt investment from a 30% coin a month is not an exchange? Is it worth investing money Huh

I just got in after a few months of "harrassment" from friends. They all made money with BCC lending. I started with a  ~500$ but i might put ~5200 in a month or two.

https://bitconnect.co/?ref=Boulard83
ill give you 50% back from my referral earning.

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Prompt investment from a 30% coin a month is not an exchange? Is it worth investing money Huh

I just got in after a few months of "harrassment" from friends. They all made money with BCC lending. I started with a  ~500$ but i might put ~5200 in a month or two.

https://bitconnect.co/?ref=Boulard83
ill give you 50% back from my referral earning.


Smell's like a scam, right ?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/
https://www.bitcoincash.org/


Edit : Just found the thread here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0

it still smeels bad to me.


I'd say that boulard83 has taken moronic asshole to whole new level - BCC is legit, whereas BCH is a scam.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
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Prompt investment from a 30% coin a month is not an exchange? Is it worth investing money Huh

I just got in after a few months of "harrassment" from friends. They all made money with BCC lending. I started with a  ~500$ but i might put ~5200 in a month or two.

https://bitconnect.co/?ref=Boulard83
ill give you 50% back from my referral earning.


Smell's like a scam, right ?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/
https://www.bitcoincash.org/


Edit : Just found the thread here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0

it still smeels bad to me.


I'd say that boulard83 has taken moronic asshole to whole new level - BCC is legit, whereas BCH is a scam.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes


 Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin For some reason that phrasing is hilarious as hell to me.  Thanks for the laugh man!  Indeed, it's like a whole new spectrum of delusional.  Inventing dimensions to fall through to reach that type of fantasy.
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Prompt investment from a 30% coin a month is not an exchange? Is it worth investing money Huh

I just got in after a few months of "harrassment" from friends. They all made money with BCC lending. I started with a  ~500$ but i might put ~5200 in a month or two.

https://bitconnect.co/?ref=Boulard83
ill give you 50% back from my referral earning.


Smell's like a scam, right ?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/
https://www.bitcoincash.org/


Edit : Just found the thread here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0

it still smeels bad to me.


I'd say that boulard83 has taken moronic asshole to whole new level - BCC is legit, whereas BCH is a scam.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

This was before the release, the pre-list on coinmarketcap was fishy smell as well as bch.org.

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This is an absolute scam and soon the authorities will drop a bomb on this. I hope all the major pimps are held liable for their actions!

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Prompt investment from a 30% coin a month is not an exchange? Is it worth investing money Huh

I just got in after a few months of "harrassment" from friends. They all made money with BCC lending. I started with a  ~500$ but i might put ~5200 in a month or two.

https://bitconnect.co/?ref=Boulard83
ill give you 50% back from my referral earning.


Smell's like a scam, right ?

https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/bitcoin-cash/
https://www.bitcoincash.org/


Edit : Just found the thread here.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2040221.0

it still smeels bad to me.


I'd say that boulard83 has taken moronic asshole to whole new level - BCC is legit, whereas BCH is a scam.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

This was before the release, the pre-list on coinmarketcap was fishy smell as well as bch.org.

In case you missed my post up higher on page 148, here is a breakdown of the ponzi schemers involved with Bitconnect and how Bitconnect officially endorsed known ponzi promoters.  You just put in $500 into something that is a known ponzi scam within the community.  You'd be foolish to put in more money.  I suggest you pull out as soon as you can.  But hey, if the below doesn't raise more flags for you, then the apparent ones already known, then there's nothing that can help you.


=============================================

Redditor /u/jam-hay put together an impressive list of revealing information which makes it even more plausible that Bitconnect is a ponzi scheme.  It links individuals who have promoted ponzi schemes previously with Bitconnect officially.  Submitting this as a separate thread for exposure.

"I think I know who's behind Bitconnect...run with me on this:" - /u/jam-hay

===========================
Rolando Anosa, Bitconnect event promoter
===========================

=========February 2016=========

* Prior to the Bitconnect, **Rolando Anosa is pushing a digital currency called Zewang** (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RCzPZVMRGuI)

* Zewang was called out for being a Ponzi scheme(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO7WSHzS43c)

=========March 8, 2016=========

* The very first post on Bitconnect's G+ profile is the announcement of a Bitconnect Seminar in the Philippines, they say that it was **organized by Bitconnect promoter, Rolando Anosa**.(https://imgur.com/a/wd5F7)

=========March 2016=========

* If you Youtube "Rolando Anosa" it takes you to a video in his channel of the Seminar from back in March 2016(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q6xoXn7ZQo)

* He also has another Youtube channel under the name "Rolly Añosa"(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCVzJnd3JAyKkt9gmcDY21Yg)

* In this channel he's **heavily pushing MMM, a well known Global Ponzi scheme**, before crypto.https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MMM_(Ponzi_scheme_company)

* I don't think this guy is responsible himself, however I do think he's first been a promoter working for MMM and why I think they are all linked.

===========================
Bitconnect posts about MMM
===========================

========= January 2017=========


* Bitconnect has strangely posted about MMM on their blog back in Jan 2017(https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/418/pyramid-scheme-mmm-moving-to-bitcoin-for-security-reasons/)

* Which leads me to think it's a double bluff and in fact they are all one and the same underpinned by MMM the next generation.

===========================
Jonel Javellana, Bitconnect event promoter
===========================

=========October 2017=========

* Here's another: Bitconnect announced that their second Philippines conference was to be **headed up by Jonel Javellana**(https://bitconnect.co/system-news/82/bitconnect-conference-philippines)

* **Go to Jonel Javellana's youtube page and what's he promoting?  MMM again**(https://www.youtube.com/channel/UChAMsohsJg4-px9hsQmjTQw)


===========================
MMM
===========================

=========Back in October 2015=========

* This isn't MMM's first go at Crypto, have a look at this Bitcointalk thread.(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1211947.0)

* The guy behind them all, Sergey Mavrodi(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sergei_Mavrodi) has morphed in to some kind of evil Vitalik Buterin(https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitalik_Buterin) over the years.

========= April 2016=========

* MMM pulled the plug on their other crypto based ponzi scheme because they couldn't pay out the interest(https://news.bitcoin.com/mmm-global-cant-sustain-bitcoin-scheme/)

* Bitconnect blog posting about Sergey Mavrodi's ponzi scheme crimes(https://bitconnect.co/bitcoin-news/138/bitcoin-ponzi-scheme-mmm-global-under-investigation-by-hawks/)

* Interestingly, ponzi schemes aren't illegal in Russia

* Bitconnect currently sits at a market cap of $1,537,529,896, I think the current speculative market has created the perfect storm for it.

=========November 2016=========

* Bitconnect is on the go, plugged by MMM Global(http://mmmglobal-bitcoin.blogspot.co.uk/2017/04/bisnis-mining-coin-terbaru-bitconnect.html)

* If you have crypto locked away in Bitconnect this is undoubtedly what's going to happen again at some point. Isn't FUD, its just what they do.
 





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October 21, 2017, 10:10:18 PM
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I never told Bitconnect was not a Ponzy, it is !

As long as it's working there is money to be made. If it last at least 3 more months i'm well into profit.

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I never told Bitconnect was not a Ponzy, it is !

As long as it's working there is money to be made. If it last at least 3 more months i'm well into profit.

Well, you also need to consider that they can give you 0 profit in a day cos it happened before. Its your money to blow, I dont care either. hehhehe
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I never told Bitconnect was not a Ponzy, it is !

As long as it's working there is money to be made. If it last at least 3 more months i'm well into profit.

Well, you also need to consider that they can give you 0 profit cos it happened before. Its your money to blow, I dont care either. hehhehe

It's pocket money, i'll live without it if it goes away Wink

NEVER invest money you need. ALWAYS invest money you can loose.

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