Casinobit - LIVE ROULETTE - [INVEST] - BEST CASINO OF 2013

[KingOfSports]

Love this site, I play occasionally, probably once every couple days but its always fun. Makes me feel like I'm at the actual casino in a way. I gotta say though there are like NO players at the table that ever bet black/red, Even/odd or the 1-18/19-36. Theyre always betting individual numbers...I'm only 19 and never have been to a casino but it makes me wonder if people at casinos here don't usually bet the 50/50 ones in roulette as well.

[CasinoBit]

Love this site, I play occasionally, probably once every couple days but its always fun. Makes me feel like I'm at the actual casino in a way. I gotta say though there are like NO players at the table that ever bet black/red, Even/odd or the 1-18/19-36. Theyre always betting individual numbers...I'm only 19 and never have been to a casino but it makes me wonder if people at casinos here don't usually bet the 50/50 ones in roulette as well.

When I analyze "History" I see that the vast majority bet on black/red or dozen, I was under the impression that no people are making straight bets...

[KingOfSports]

Thats what I see as well but if you watch the live feed, actual people playing live, I've only seen 1 50/50 wager. They're always loading up on like 5 or 6 different numbers each game. I've wondered why that is.

[CasinoBit]

Thats what I see as well but if you watch the live feed, actual people playing live, I've only seen 1 50/50 wager. They're always loading up on like 5 or 6 different numbers each game. I've wondered why that is.

If for example the bet is RB(2,4,6,8,10,11,13,15,17,20,22,24,26,28,29,31,33,35) it appears something like RB(2...35), RB means Red/Black, 2...35 means Black in this case.

Straight bets appear as a single number e.g. "24".

[KingOfSports]

I just won .04 BTC on a .02 btc wager on 1-18, result was 16. It has been confirmed and no payment has been sent. No worries bout it just want it to get eventually paid. Here is my bet tx ID:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6e2da3617886f482f89e293d2986053568e9219b82a6c4f410bd043984cb9c14
Thanks!
And I meant people playing at that casino where the live feed is being played, I know what the bets look like for bitcoin users and many people are always playing black or red for people betiting with bitcoin. I was saying that the people betting with real cash and chips at this casino where the live feed is, only once have I seen a 50/50 wager placed. Those people betting real cash love straight wagering on individual numbers for whatever reason.

[CasinoBit]

I just won .04 BTC on a .02 btc wager on 1-18, result was 16. It has been confirmed and no payment has been sent. No worries bout it just want it to get eventually paid. Here is my bet tx ID:
https://blockchain.info/tx/6e2da3617886f482f89e293d2986053568e9219b82a6c4f410bd043984cb9c14
Thanks!
And I meant people playing at that casino where the live feed is being played, I know what the bets look like for bitcoin users and many people are always playing black or red for people betiting with bitcoin. I was saying that the people betting with real cash and chips at this casino where the live feed is, only once have I seen a 50/50 wager placed. Those people betting real cash love straight wagering on individual numbers for whatever reason.

Ohhh alright, I guess the bets of the cryptographically enlightened average member of BitcoinTalk are quite different than the average Joe.

I can confirm that your transaction has already been sent and currently waiting for confirmations.

[KingOfSports]

Alright, I hope so, I'm not seeing it on blockchain sadly. I'll come back though in an hr and check on it. Thanks again. And yeah idk why that is, just found that weird that NO ONE at that live casino likes the 50/50 wagers.

[KingOfSports]

Still have not received the .04 btc and no transaction has shown up in my wallet as being unconfirmed. Can you please provide the tx link for it. Thanks

[dooglus]

I gotta say though there are like NO players at the table that ever bet black/red, Even/odd or the 1-18/19-36. Theyre always betting individual numbers...I'm only 19 and never have been to a casino but it makes me wonder if people at casinos here don't usually bet the 50/50 ones in roulette as well.

Did you see this thread.  It's about how Bitcoin gamblers play differently than "real" gamblers, and might be related to your point.

[CasinoBit]

I gotta say though there are like NO players at the table that ever bet black/red, Even/odd or the 1-18/19-36. Theyre always betting individual numbers...I'm only 19 and never have been to a casino but it makes me wonder if people at casinos here don't usually bet the 50/50 ones in roulette as well.

Did you see this thread.  It's about how Bitcoin gamblers play differently than "real" gamblers, and might be related to your point.

I guess more Bitcoin users play to win rather than play for entertainment without giving it thought, winning a bet on black and doubling up your funds doesn't seem that hard. I also don't appreciate the link, wouldn't want to turn it into a discussion as it is simply my personal opinion rather than of the company I work for but the individual who has started that thread is nothing less than a thieving liar and I would avoid bumping his threads or giving him attention.

I would happily participate in that discussion if it was started by say, Erik Voorhees, or anyone else who is at least half credible in my books.

Still have not received the .04 btc and no transaction has shown up in my wallet as being unconfirmed. Can you please provide the tx link for it. Thanks

You can acquire the "out" transaction in history, I can assure you it is bound to appear and confirm, we have been paying out for some time.

[KingOfSports]

I understand sir, I just would like to see a tx link for it. I have played multiple times and have been paid out every time. However it has been about 4 hours since and nothing has shown up in my history for my wallet 1Fy1AwqEkXesQAuuzX8LXpiR9UU4xTwDV9. Generally payouts are instant after a game has been locked. This time there was nothing recieved.

[CasinoBit]

I understand sir, I just would like to see a tx link for it. I have played multiple times and have been paid out every time. However it has been about 4 hours since and nothing has shown up in my history for my wallet 1Fy1AwqEkXesQAuuzX8LXpiR9UU4xTwDV9. Generally payouts are instant after a game has been locked. This time there was nothing recieved.

Bet on N(1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,12,13,14,15,16,17,18) with amount of 0.02000BTC
Out transaction: 3ac1e4c34541a1ccfc9224e9227ad2a9b71e753d407645d0597f64d8a56701de
Received from 1Fy1AwqEkXesQAuuzX8LXpiR9UU4xTwDV9
Won 0.040000000

As I've said, you can get this info from "History" at the top of the page by searching for your in tx.

[dooglus]

the individual who has started that thread is nothing less than a thieving liar and I would avoid bumping his threads or giving him attention.

Golly.  I've not heard anything bad about him until now.

Out transaction: 3ac1e4c34541a1ccfc9224e9227ad2a9b71e753d407645d0597f64d8a56701de

I don't see that anywhere on the network.  Can you rebroadcast it?  If you paste it here: https://blockchain.info/pushtx then everyone will have it soon enough.

[CasinoBit]

the individual who has started that thread is nothing less than a thieving liar and I would avoid bumping his threads or giving him attention.

Golly.  I've not heard anything bad about him until now.

Out transaction: 3ac1e4c34541a1ccfc9224e9227ad2a9b71e753d407645d0597f64d8a56701de

I don't see that anywhere on the network.  Can you rebroadcast it?  If you paste it here: https://blockchain.info/pushtx then everyone will have it soon enough.

The "out" transaction has apparently been signed by a zero conf unspent tx, if it won't confirm within 2 days I will pay it myself and let KingsOfSports keep double the winnings.

I am currently in the process of working something out with the pools, it should eliminate this problem in the future.

[KingOfSports]

Yeah I checked again and no payment still. That timeframe is fine hopefully it comes through tho on its on for both our sakes.

[dooglus]

The "out" transaction has apparently been signed by a zero conf unspent tx, if it won't confirm within 2 days I will pay it myself and let KingsOfSports keep double the winnings.

I am currently in the process of working something out with the pools, it should eliminate this problem in the future.

Your terminology is a little confusing.  Transactions don't sign other transactions.  And if you've used the unconfirmed transaction as an input to KoS's winnings, then it is no longer 'unspent' - since you just spent it.

I think what you mean is that you used an unconfirmed transaction as one of the inputs when paying KoS his winnings.  That's something that you have control of (or at least your Bitcoin client software does).  If you use the reference bitcoin-qt client, it will only use unconfirmed transactions as inputs if there are no confirmed transactions available in your wallet to make the payment with.  So the solution is making sure you have enough funds in your wallet that at least some of them are confirmed at all times for use it paying out winners.

You can make an arrangement with a mining pool if you like, but there's nothing you can do if that unconfirmed transaction you used to pay out a winning bet gets double-spent and the double-spend makes its way into the blockchain.

[CasinoBit]

Your terminology is a little confusing.  Transactions don't sign other transactions.  And if you've used the unconfirmed transaction as an input to KoS's winnings, then it is no longer 'unspent' - since you just spent it.

I think what you mean is that you used an unconfirmed transaction as one of the inputs when paying KoS his winnings.  That's something that you have control of (or at least your Bitcoin client software does).  If you use the reference bitcoin-qt client, it will only use unconfirmed transactions as inputs if there are no confirmed transactions available in your wallet to make the payment with.  So the solution is making sure you have enough funds in your wallet that at least some of them are confirmed at all times for use it paying out winners.

You can make an arrangement with a mining pool if you like, but there's nothing you can do if that unconfirmed transaction you used to pay out a winning bet gets double-spent and the double-spend makes its way into the blockchain.

It happened because people are writing bots to place bets constantly with zero fees, anyway we've got everything under control and taking it to the next level as usual. I have enough BTC to cover any potential winning, in case someone gets lucky this early and wins the maximum 72, I can payout that too, even though it will take some time.

Thank you for your concerns and correcting me dooglus, I appreciate your input.

[KingOfSports]

Stupid bots, why would anyone create a bot that gambles with a -EV game   just doesn't make sense unless they're trying to double spend the coins.

[bit777]

I gotta say though there are like NO players at the table that ever bet black/red, Even/odd or the 1-18/19-36. Theyre always betting individual numbers...I'm only 19 and never have been to a casino but it makes me wonder if people at casinos here don't usually bet the 50/50 ones in roulette as well.

Did you see this thread.  It's about how Bitcoin gamblers play differently than "real" gamblers, and might be related to your point.

I guess more Bitcoin users play to win rather than play for entertainment without giving it thought, winning a bet on black and doubling up your funds doesn't seem that hard. I also don't appreciate the link, wouldn't want to turn it into a discussion as it is simply my personal opinion rather than of the company I work for but the individual who has started that thread is nothing less than a thieving liar and I would avoid bumping his threads or giving him attention.

I would happily participate in that discussion if it was started by say, Erik Voorhees, or anyone else who is at least half credible in my books.

Still have not received the .04 btc and no transaction has shown up in my wallet as being unconfirmed. Can you please provide the tx link for it. Thanks

You can acquire the "out" transaction in history, I can assure you it is bound to appear and confirm, we have been paying out for some time.

Casinobit, didn't want to post on your thread, but can you explain on the basis of what grounds are you claiming "but the individual who has started that thread is nothing less than a thieving liar" ?

[CasinoBit]

Sorry for the stuck bets everyone, there were some technical problems with the physical table, we have fixed them now.

The free 0.01 BTC is reopened and valid again.