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January 01, 2017, 12:13:29 AM |
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its true. I guess its the high pitch of the antminers that was the worst.
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yun9999
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January 01, 2017, 01:29:52 AM |
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I really wanted these to worth buying; but they aren't.
A 5x 1070 rig costs almost exactly the same and will produce 1900+ sol/s @ ~850 watts with stock settings.
With optimized settings you should be able to get 1900+ sol/s @ ~550 watts.
This is with equipment that is easy to resell, and is likely to hold its value well over time.
The panda miner needs to be both; way more efficient, and have a significantly lower price.
As it is now: it's just a ripoff targeting new miners.
Not even a valid comparison as not the same hardware and your PSU, CPU, SSD, OS, power riser and rig frame is free?? I keep hearing people say stuff like this without data to back it up. But this is not even a valid argument. This is like comparing building your own PC vs getting a All in one computer. Different purposes and target consumers. Can you deploy 100 rigs doing self build as fast as these plug and play?? What is your time worth. Now compare the cost of 8 x 480 plus a 1600w psu. That'd already $2k. What about CPU, MB, SSD, Ram, 8 power risers, rig frame? I have 40 rigs now and just the time to open and store all the boxes for gpu, cpu, psu, etc is a long time. I bough the 14 Nvidia from hearing people claiming all the greatness, quite frankly they sucks. Just like with rx480, a lot depends on your luck with the ram as not all of them can be boosted as high. There are market for these, let's not thread crap. The only sucky point is the crappy 45 days warranty and chinese OS but if those asic are easy to replace and upgrade, this is an ultimate solution for large farms. If I can upgrade my asic to say 490 or Fury and sell old ones to others, etc. The former factor is also very good for heat management. |
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jstefanop
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January 01, 2017, 01:36:30 AM |
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There are market for these, let's not thread crap. The only sucky point is the crappy 45 days warranty and chinese OS but if those asic are easy to replace and upgrade, this is an ultimate solution for large farms. If I can upgrade my asic to say 490 or Fury and sell old ones to others, etc. The former factor is also very good for heat management.
These are mobile based GPU cards...there is almost a zero market for these, and there is no off the shelf parts that you can just buy and upgrade. This form factor is made OEM by laptop manufactures so good luck finding next gen GPU upgrades...and if you do somehow happen to find them, good luck selling your old cards aftermarket. This has the cons of an ASIC system into a GPU system...makes no sense. |
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January 01, 2017, 04:22:46 AM |
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There are market for these, let's not thread crap. The only sucky point is the crappy 45 days warranty and chinese OS but if those asic are easy to replace and upgrade, this is an ultimate solution for large farms. If I can upgrade my asic to say 490 or Fury and sell old ones to others, etc. The former factor is also very good for heat management.
These are mobile based GPU cards...there is almost a zero market for these, and there is no off the shelf parts that you can just buy and upgrade. This form factor is made OEM by laptop manufactures so good luck finding next gen GPU upgrades...and if you do somehow happen to find them, good luck selling your old cards aftermarket. This has the cons of an ASIC system into a GPU system...makes no sense. You are missing the point I am making. The market segment for this is same as AIO or build to order PC which are higher price then build it yourself. If you have sizeable farm like mine the time required to build it takes weeks vs a day with these plug and play to certain extent as u have to change the language. I am saying it is a bonus on top "IF" the cards are changeable and I don't see why not if u look at their site, the gpu looks like easy to swap and as Phillip say it's like a gpu for imac. If so why wouldn't their be a marker for them?? I can sell mine those other panda owners who have failed gpus. If your unit is still running good, why is there no resell market for these?? It's no difference then reselling an out of warranty S7 or S9. If it can hash and is making money people will buy. The point I am making is that there ARE people who want this. If you are not one of them, continue your way with what you're building now as this is a review thread on this unit not NVIDIA or how I can build x for less, etc. |
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Hilteron
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January 01, 2017, 04:44:34 AM |
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Yes, I Love this Panda Miners. I will buy 2 sets of panda miners. I can mine Monero, ZEC, ZCASH...
I will decide not to buy GPUs to setup a mining machine because I do not have much more experiences for setting up.
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philipma1957 (OP)
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January 01, 2017, 05:18:13 AM |
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thank you and happy new year. I will look at these videos when I wake up in the morning. |
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January 01, 2017, 07:48:37 AM |
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Game changer miner indeed, great to see PandaMiner delivered this. I can see a lot more applications beyond mining.
Assuming you had to reinstall Windows, are the drivers available? I hope more people on here can also test out running Linux on it before I jump in.
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January 01, 2017, 10:25:28 AM |
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Ok, at first i wasn't directly planning on posting anything regarding this but oh well. Anyhow, i ordered one myself. I will obviously as i can't handle myself, get the roms of those mxm cards, modify them as hard and as stable as i can, meaning, custom timings, no copy pasting  , downvolting and last but not least, i'm going to put a linux os on this thing. I will get mine (if everything is right) this monday. I will report back with info and details. Greetings! that sounds great with your knowledge you could create here a real beast  |
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vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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January 01, 2017, 11:31:14 AM |
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Game changer miner indeed, great to see PandaMiner delivered this. I can see a lot more applications beyond mining.
kinda a pity you cant just swap cpus to a more powerful one, might make a nice little scientific cruncher or renderer etc |
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January 01, 2017, 12:50:45 PM |
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Ok, at first i wasn't directly planning on posting anything regarding this but oh well. Anyhow, i ordered one myself. I will obviously as i can't handle myself, get the roms of those mxm cards, modify them as hard and as stable as i can, meaning, custom timings, no copy pasting , downvolting and last but not least, i'm going to put a linux os on this thing. I will get mine (if everything is right) this monday. I will report back with info and details. Greetings! that sounds great with your knowledge you could create here a real beast We will see Will most probably have results by the end of tomorrow (if they deliver on time ) Greetings and have a great first day of the year! |
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January 01, 2017, 12:54:22 PM |
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Game changer miner indeed, great to see PandaMiner delivered this. I can see a lot more applications beyond mining.
Assuming you had to reinstall Windows, are the drivers available? I hope more people on here can also test out running Linux on it before I jump in.
I will be testing with linux when I place my order and will add a updated to the topic once my box arrives! |
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jadefalke
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January 01, 2017, 01:40:03 PM |
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Ok, at first i wasn't directly planning on posting anything regarding this but oh well. Anyhow, i ordered one myself. I will obviously as i can't handle myself, get the roms of those mxm cards, modify them as hard and as stable as i can, meaning, custom timings, no copy pasting , downvolting and last but not least, i'm going to put a linux os on this thing. I will get mine (if everything is right) this monday. I will report back with info and details. Greetings! that sounds great with your knowledge you could create here a real beast We will see Will most probably have results by the end of tomorrow (if they deliver on time ) Greetings and have a great first day of the year! Same for you, lot of Fun with your new Toy |
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philipma1957 (OP)
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January 01, 2017, 02:53:28 PM |
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Since you got the chinese version of Windows 10....
IS IT ACTIVATED?
IS IT PIRATED?
can you provide proof that it is a legit activated copy of Windows 10?
70 decibles is loud, at 90 decibles you get hearing damage....
and these things will be ridiclous to resell... not worth getting stuck with this in one year when better GPU's come out like the new vega line...
anyways, very curious if this copy is legit and activated.. something tells me... its either not activated or pirated.
it is activated I deleted your post but kept it quoted here. I will do this over the next day or two delete the posts and quote them. |
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philipma1957 (OP)
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January 01, 2017, 03:34:26 PM |
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Okay I finally got this to switch to English.
So this is a Windows Enterprise and it has a key and it seems to not be activated.
Still some residual Chinese after effects.
So here is the deal every post about this being bootleg or pirated will be deleted .
I can not deal with the question at the moment and I am not going to waste time since I am not sure at the moment.
I still am playing with the software and I am a nuts and bolts type of guy not a software guy.
I will post a photo of the screen in English.
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January 01, 2017, 03:55:48 PM |
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it's great to see the panda miner . I intend to buy some GPUs for mining machine.
but it seems more expensive than Panda miner selling here. I will change my decision to Panda miner.
I will spend some bitcoins for this fact.
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vapourminer
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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?
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January 01, 2017, 04:06:42 PM |
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phil, those heatsinks on the gpus, are they "standard" so to speak? like if you install new gpus you reuse the heatsinks. i would imagine they are as replaceable mobile gpus would kinda need to be standardized.
btw im a bit surprised you havent taken it apart yet (or have you?)
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philipma1957 (OP)
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January 01, 2017, 04:38:07 PM |
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Guys I am deleting all posts on windows 10.
I had issues changing to English and it is now changed to English thanks to the YouTube videos posted by
Felix73.
This is a windows 10 enterprise edition with a key provided.
It won't activate at the moment but it happens to be 2017. My guess is by the end of the week Friday 6th. The activation will work.
I have not opened the case as of now.
Since it is now in English and also can be in multiple languages I will need a bit of time to figure more out about the included windows 10.
Others are getting the gear and will try a Linux install.
Hell I have not gotten into the bios as of now. So I do not want to hear people talk about the software unless they have a machine and have real info on machine software tweaks and upgrades
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TheYankeesWin!
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January 01, 2017, 06:19:45 PM |
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Now that you got it switched to English how about some photos of gpu cpu the windows build whatever you got.
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philipma1957 (OP)
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January 01, 2017, 06:26:10 PM
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I did 2 more photos. I installed gpu z I installed cpu z I am still stuck using the motherboard for display And I can not seem to get into the motherboard bios as of today. note lower right on second shot this is a windows 10 enterprise LTSB according to wiki the most stripped down version of windows 10 that there is. as for the activating code there is one that is not working. two reasons could be year change. or repeat use of code. So you may need an activation code. I will go back and edit a post on this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_10_editionsWIKI TALKS ABOUT THIS : Enterprise LTSB Windows 10 Enterprise Long Term Servicing Branch (LTSB) is similar to Windows 10 Enterprise but does not include Cortana, Windows Store, the Edge browser, Photo Viewer and the UWP version of Calculator (replaced by classic version), and will not receive any feature updates, gives companies more control over the update process. Windows 10 Enterprise N LTSB also lacks the same components absent in other N variants (see below), and it is the most stripped down edition of Windows 10 available.[4][6] This is why getting the switch to English was a bit harder then other editions. As of today My code may or may not be good. So if you want to run a legal windows you may need to buy an activation code. Or maybe not
I will keep updating this.And 1 update https://community.spiceworks.com/topic/1303247-windows-10-ltsb-where-to-buy  |
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