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January 01, 2017, 06:55:38 PM
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Phil,

Is any way to install standard pack of software: Afterburner, Wattman, atiflash etc?
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January 01, 2017, 07:05:56 PM
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Hey Phil.  I will help you out.  In the first desktop picture.  There are icons with Chinese characters.  From the upper left corner.  To the right one column, 1st row.  The text file is "Mining Process Instruction step.txt".  Not a literal translation, but the closest translation.

1st column, row 4, Zcash plus a bunch of Chinese character.  It means "Zcash shortcut".
1st column, row 6.  "Cpu-Z 1.9 shortcut".
1st column, row 7. "360 extreme speed viewer" or "browser".  I've never seen that before.

Windows test mode allows unsigned drivers to be run and installed, and bypasses quite a bit of driver digital signature validation.

The team viewer on second column, row 7, allows remote desktop viewing.  May have the "share screen" function.  Don't know what version it is.  It's a collaboration tool.

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January 01, 2017, 07:14:39 PM
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many photos

box is 32 inches long




The writing with black marker says "US" or "USA".
The tape on the box with blue characters.  It's upside down.  The upper (longer row) says "Please inspect package content before signing for the package."
The lower row Chinese characters says "Thank you for your business."
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January 01, 2017, 07:43:49 PM
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Hey Phil.  I will help you out.  In the first desktop picture.  There are icons with Chinese characters.  From the upper left corner.  To the right one column, 1st row.  The text file is "Mining Process Instruction step.txt".  Not a literal translation, but the closest translation.

1st column, row 4, Zcash plus a bunch of Chinese character.  It means "Zcash shortcut".
1st column, row 6.  "Cpu-Z 1.9 shortcut".
1st column, row 7. "360 extreme speed viewer" or "browser".  I've never seen that before.

Windows test mode allows unsigned drivers to be run and installed, and bypasses quite a bit of driver digital signature validation.

The team viewer on second column, row 7, allows remote desktop viewing.  May have the "share screen" function.  Don't know what version it is.  It's a collaboration tool.



Very much appreciated.
I am going out with the wife to walk off the New Years party.
I will post the chrome page later and ask for more help.

To all I have found a place to buy activation codes for the build. So worst case is the gears activation code is bad. And you will need a code.
The place I found will sell a five pc code.
It could be pandaminers code is good and this is just a New Year's Eve issue.

Still mining very well.
Issues left are I do not know how to enter bios.
I loaded gpuz via chrome
I loaded CPUs z via chrome
I loaded chrome to a USB stick on a different pc.
Then load chrome from that stick.
Still mixes Chinese and English but better more English less Chinese.
I can get on bitcointalk.org via the chrome I loaded.

I use zero passwords or accounts on the unit due to security fears.

What I need to do is find out if I can load a new windows 10 on a new ssd.
And I need to understand why I must use the hdmi jack for the Intel CPU

Vs the hdmi jack for the gpus.

Loading AMD 16.11.3 and more of the same.

I do not want to brick the hdd / ssd so I will need. To open case tomorrow to decide if
Ram
CPU
Ssd
Can be upgraded.
I will also check fans and gpus.

Lastly I have used the evga 1600 g2
I will swap the oem psu on Monday or Tuesday.

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January 01, 2017, 09:17:38 PM
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So this mobile CPU is aprox. 65% slower than common used G1840. It could be problem.

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January 01, 2017, 09:47:54 PM
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So this mobile CPU is aprox. 65% slower than common used G1840. It could be problem.

I opened the case.

it fits 1 4gb stick of ram


https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-PC3-12800-DDR3-1600MHz-Unbuffered-M471B5173DB0-YK0/dp/B00CV5GWHC/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_1?

same specs as the samsung above.

so I ordered this ram below

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-PC3L-12800-204-Pin-SoDimm-M471b1g73bh0-yk0/dp/B00J8U549K/ref=sr_1_1?

1 screw opens the door to ram slot and old mSata slot the drive below has same specs as stock ssd

https://www.amazon.com/MyDigitalSSD-Super-Drive-mSATA-Solid/dp/B00LNEXNU6/ref=sr_1_1?


I will upgrade to this one
https://www.amazon.com/ADATA-Premier-SP310-Excellent-ASP310S3-128GM-C/dp/B00ELQZCKW/ref=sr_1_1?


while I am at it I will get a copy of windows 10 and attempt to install it.

it looks like I can take heat sink off the cpu
it looks like I can take the heat sinks off the gpus

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January 01, 2017, 10:03:44 PM
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for upgrades i believe these mxm cards upgrade should work in the pandaminer

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/mxm-video-card
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January 01, 2017, 10:26:07 PM
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I still don't see the point vs building your own 7 or 8 GPU rig, though. Especially when it comes time to sell the hardware or upgrade.. But this is good for quick deployment and people who are clueless when it comes to building a PC.

For those of us that CAN build our own and have plenty of space, there is no point.

 For the rest, you already answered your own "question".


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January 01, 2017, 10:29:26 PM
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for upgrades i believe these mxm cards upgrade should work in the pandaminer

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/mxm-video-card

yes they may do so.

I have some photos of inside

easy to open just need a philips screwdriver. there is 1 screw   opening to get to ram and msata it is on the bottom of the unit.

once you take that screw you can see the 1 stick of ram the 64gb msata




older style msata


remove that 1 stick of ram and the heat sink screws for the cpu are all accessable



here is the cpu heat sink



here is 1 of 8 gpu heat sinks 2 screws to remove


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January 01, 2017, 10:33:59 PM
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I am still stuck using the motherboard for display
And I can not seem to get into the motherboard bios as of today.


 Why is using the motherboard (actually the GPU on the CPU most likely) an issue? That should save a few cycles in the actual mining GPUs for mining instead of displaying.

 Not able to get into the BIOS seems a bit odd, though I could see them wanting to disable BIOS access to avoid potential issues with customers changing settings and causing issues.


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20 inches wide and 8 inches deep 4 inches high.


Bummer, means using it in a enclosed rack would be a challenge if not impossible as I thought because of cables sticking out of both sides.


 Too wide to fit in a standard 19" rack anyway.


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20 inches wide and 8 inches deep 4 inches high.


Bummer, means using it in a enclosed rack would be a challenge if not impossible as I thought because of cables sticking out of both sides.


 Too wide to fit in a standard 19" rack anyway.



this unit is meant to be on this stand.  10 units fit 2 on each shelf with this psu on top
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=966135.0
https://www.shelving.com/12x24-Wire-Shelving-w-5-Shelves-p/sc122472-5p.htm

you have 80 gpus running  in a small area you need good fans


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January 02, 2017, 01:07:56 AM
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20 inches wide and 8 inches deep 4 inches high.
Bummer, means using it in a enclosed rack would be a challenge if not impossible as I thought because of cables sticking out of both sides.
Too wide to fit in a standard 19" rack anyway.

Or you could fit 4 of them horizontally in a 12U blade-style chassis...
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Interview is locked for now  until I load a legal USA copy of win 10 onto a new msata


see first post


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1733723.0


So after a day of research  I concluded the windows 10 on this pandaminer  has a windows 10 enterprise LTSB 2015 code laid on top of it.

There is a different thread with more info on it.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1735560.0;all

I am not a lawyer  and do not pretend to know the law.

But I think this is very gray. 

I AM TELLING MICROSOFT THAT I WOULD LIKE TO PAY FOR A SINGLE PC CODE THAT ACTIVATES THE WINDOWS 10 ENTERPRISE LTSB 2015 ON THE PANDAMINER WHICH SOLVES ALL THE ISSUES WITH THIS OS ON THIS PC.

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January 02, 2017, 06:06:05 PM
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Phil it looks like linux to the rescue



Hey guys!

As i've mentioned earlier, i also ordered a pandaminer.

It arrived today! Yey.

I took the time to boot the original ssd into that awesome Chinese Windows 10 and it took me around 10 minutes to turn it off again and to replace that ssd with a new one.

Of course i played around with it and installed linux on it Smiley (ps. i also fixed both the hdmi outputs, both are working fine now)

Here are some pictures.

Will post power / speed results later. Will also fetch that rom and modify the hell out of it.. "later.. :p"

If this runs smooth for more than 2 days, i will consider making this commercial, i mean: the pandaminer modified with modified roms. (only europe "for now")..


Pictures: (i'm just posting the links because i hate the fact that pictures will make me have to scroll like a madman to get to the bottom of the page..)

They box :p

Box


Messed around with it and running on linux Smiley

Linux



More info coming later!

Greetings!




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January 02, 2017, 06:08:25 PM
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Yeah  it seems that linux works well  and windows is not needed.

Later today I get an 8gb ram stick  I will drop it in  and show some photos.

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Those are some nice temps.  How long has the miner been running in that screen shot and what is the ambient temp?

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Those are some nice temps.  How long has the miner been running in that screen shot and what is the ambient temp?

that is the linux build not the windows build.

but my windows build has been running for a day temps are ?

I will check and

 they do not show up on my claymore 9.3 patch  Huh

Still   the 8 heatsinks are big  the fans are maxed  and the air leaving the fans is far cooler then air leaving an s9

I suspect  that the temps are good on the window build.


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Those are some nice temps.  How long has the miner been running in that screen shot and what is the ambient temp?

The unit has nine delta fans running at full speed 10 watts a fan or 90 watts.

If 70% works. Power would drop to  maybe 60 watts.

Since my evga 1600 g2 does 1060 watts and 1730 h. With full speed fans I would drop to

1030 watts and get the 1730h

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Those are some nice temps.  How long has the miner been running in that screen shot and what is the ambient temp?

It's been running for exactly 3 hours and 26 minutes at this moment. Stable as a rock.

Temperatures: 36, 41, 40, 38, 40, 46, 46, 37. So an average of 40.


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