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April 14, 2013, 09:28:34 PM
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Announcing the new Litecoin wallet service

ltc-wallet.com

This is a complete rewrite of the original LTC instawallet project developed by g2x3k & someguy123
Original thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=55025

We do not collect or share your personal information such as name, email, IP address or user agent string. If you value your privacy, use Tor.

Our wallet features:
  • INSTANT sign-up, no information required at all. Simply enter a PIN for your wallet and hit "Register" and you have yourself a litecoin address, ready to send or receive litecoins
  • SECURE website - we use a 256 bit SSL certificate to guarantee you peace of mind.
  • SECURE authentication - you get a strong 20 character key code as your "username", and you pick yourself a PIN up to 64 chars length.
  • SPEED - deposits and withdrawals are processed in automatic mode, balance changes are reflected right away.
  • EARN INTEREST - invest LTC and earn up to 12% interest on your deposited coins.

It is now possible to earn up to 12% interest on your deposited coins.
Please check your wallet page for more info.


As of June 26th the terms would be:
15 days @ 1%
30 days @ 3%
60 days @ 7%
90 days @ 12%

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April 15, 2013, 09:26:34 AM
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looks like a very good version of the instawallet script
i wanted to give it a try and entered a PIN but i only get a white blank page after hitting enter....
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April 15, 2013, 02:31:38 PM
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If someone was unable to create a wallet yesterday, please try again now, there was a tiny PHP bug.
As it was already said, the project is under development, we are working full time on it.

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April 15, 2013, 05:08:53 PM
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Fixed a bug preventing LTC withdrawals

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April 16, 2013, 02:25:18 PM
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Here's why the website doesnt work for some users. You must use https scheme!
I will have a redirect setup from HTTP to HTTPS to make it simpler.

As of right now please use this link https://ltc-wallet.com

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April 21, 2013, 02:29:59 PM
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The PIN codes are now encrypted with Bcrypt algorithm which is very hard to bruteforce.

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April 25, 2013, 07:58:48 PM
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The transactions list is restyled, added more info including transaction IDs and fee amount (waived for now).

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April 25, 2013, 10:07:33 PM
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Looking forward to trying this out tonight. Any interest in doing a FC one as well? Smiley

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April 26, 2013, 01:36:32 PM
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What is FC?

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What is FC?

feathercoin

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April 28, 2013, 06:27:13 PM
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It would be pretty easy to create online wallets for all altcoins once we get this one out of beta stage.

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April 29, 2013, 11:26:34 AM
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@justabitoftime
What is FC?

feathercoin

Welcome to the new Online Feathercoin wallet

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May 01, 2013, 11:02:50 PM
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Hey Op,

I can donate a few L to the cause if you can make the pin field show **** instead of remembering and displaying the pin?

A few more if you integrate google two factor authentication, they have some php snippets to do it.

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May 02, 2013, 07:30:54 PM
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I can donate a few L to the cause if you can make the pin field show **** instead of remembering and displaying the pin?
It's a good idea. Done!

A few more if you integrate google two factor authentication, they have some php snippets to do it.
We are working on it already Wink

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May 02, 2013, 07:31:36 PM
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Is there any way I can get you to drop the min. withdrawal to 0.5 LTC? Seems disproportionally high at 1.0, and it would take me a couple days to drop in another 0.5.
Lowered to 0.5

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May 02, 2013, 07:43:56 PM
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will you make chnc wallet ?
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May 03, 2013, 12:07:46 AM
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I can donate a few L to the cause if you can make the pin field show **** instead of remembering and displaying the pin?
It's a good idea. Done!

L sent
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/2fd1236cbeada61c811a8f638b7def08f9bc329aa7511c1acf8ec2d5d11b027b

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May 03, 2013, 12:08:17 AM
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Is there any way I can get you to drop the min. withdrawal to 0.5 LTC? Seems disproportionally high at 1.0, and it would take me a couple days to drop in another 0.5.
Lowered to 0.5

Cool, thanks. Good call kicking in that masked PIN, too.
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May 03, 2013, 01:15:22 AM
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Hey you made a Feathercoin Wallet!!!!

Awesome!

https://ftc-wallet.com/

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May 03, 2013, 02:12:09 AM
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I can donate a few L to the cause if you can make the pin field show **** instead of remembering and displaying the pin?
It's a good idea. Done!

L sent
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/2fd1236cbeada61c811a8f638b7def08f9bc329aa7511c1acf8ec2d5d11b027b
Thanks

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May 03, 2013, 02:17:23 AM
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will you make chnc wallet ?
Probably not, it doesn't look like a popular crypto coin.

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May 05, 2013, 05:37:50 PM
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Can your wallet be used for mining purposes?
Because i'm not sure the one at btc-e can, the one at vircurex says it cannot be used.

Thanks.

PD: a little ad space for puppy ads or similar may encourage ltc services to advertise with you.

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May 07, 2013, 09:14:47 PM
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Yes, you can use the service to receive coins from mining pools.

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May 07, 2013, 09:18:16 PM
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PD: a little ad space for puppy ads or similar may encourage ltc services to advertise with you.

I'll consider that. If anyone is interested in adding their litecoin related ADs, please PM.

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May 09, 2013, 06:12:20 PM
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someone has back-door access on this site and is draining accounts, the worst thing about it is you wont even know it unless you look at the blockchain.
http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/YOURADDRESS

original post from a few days ago in the newbie section

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i would have mailed the sites admin directly if they had a visible email

2 days ago i setup a wallet with a unique 18 character uppercase+lowercase+symbols+numbers PIN and yesterday transferred 0.1 LTC from 3-4 days mining.
so i dont have to keep logging into the site, i view my balance via the blockchain explorer and today i find my account has been drained along with 22 other people

http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/67a2d48ac53c45265f37797d4a9ff0caad5ca6582c24198da4111452c56a8041

no transactions were logged on the wallet site which still shows my previous, now non existent, balance
the site doesnt allow withdrawals of less than 0.5 LTC and also doesnt give you a private key

the only conclusion i can come to is someone has backdoor access to the site, has grabbed and decoded the private keys and is draining accounts

my balance on the site still says 0.10047151 LTC when i have no funds according to the blockchain


LTC:  LKpJf3uk7KsHU73kxq8iFJrP1AAKN7Yni7  DGC:  DKXGvEbj3Rwgrm2QQbRyNPDDZDYoq4Y44d  XPM:  AWV5AKfLFyoBaMjg9C77rGUBhuFxz5DGGL
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May 10, 2013, 01:00:25 PM
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@Eli0t
Thanks for the info, however there's no backdoor, anyone can withdraw their funds at any time (within the daily limits).
I found that account and the balance is 0.10047151 LTC, there's no problem with that.

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May 10, 2013, 03:57:27 PM
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why is my balance 0 on the blockchain? with an unauthorised transaction of my balance total

LTC:  LKpJf3uk7KsHU73kxq8iFJrP1AAKN7Yni7  DGC:  DKXGvEbj3Rwgrm2QQbRyNPDDZDYoq4Y44d  XPM:  AWV5AKfLFyoBaMjg9C77rGUBhuFxz5DGGL
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can anyone explain me why i cant make a withdrawl to btc-e  from my account, i want to transfer 0.9 ltc and it apper an error that says that the ltc cant be transfer but ir doesnt say why...

Can someone help me???  please..
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May 24, 2013, 01:29:34 AM
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can anyone explain me why i cant make a withdrawl to btc-e  from my account, i want to transfer 0.9 ltc and it apper an error that says that the ltc cant be transfer but ir doesnt say why...

Can someone help me???  please..


You are probably trying to send all coins that you have, however there's a withdrawal fee of 0.1% + 0.1 LTC that you should deduct from your sending amount.

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May 24, 2013, 01:21:18 PM
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How is this possible?
Where do you make your money from?
Where do our funds go?
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May 26, 2013, 01:32:24 PM
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Have a look at this:-

  • There is no commission for deposits
  • This address can be re-used for future deposits
  • Coins will be available after 5 confirmations
  • Do not use this as your mining pool payout address

Whay is that this address cannot be used for mining pool payout address??
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May 26, 2013, 09:38:09 PM
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Can you assure the safety of this wallet?
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Whay is that this address cannot be used for mining pool payout address??
The coins may be deposited to a different account within a wallet. We are working on solutions.

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Can you assure the safety of this wallet?
Yes, it is safe to use our wallet.

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May 28, 2013, 02:19:18 PM
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What happens if my mining does auto deposit LTC into my wallet?
And when you say different account within your wallet what do you mean?
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May 31, 2013, 08:30:07 PM
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@SavellM
PM me your wallet address to get a refund

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June 04, 2013, 12:08:24 PM
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It is now possible to request new address for coin depositing.
Just click a "Get new address" button on the Deposits tab.

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June 10, 2013, 03:57:34 AM
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Great how secure is this ?

what if the site got shut down would you loose your LTC ?

Bitcoin will show the world what hard money really is.
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June 10, 2013, 04:58:30 AM
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Is there any plans for this project to provide an api to allow transactions with just the private hex similar to blockchian.info? I can't seem to find any litecoin service that is willing to do this.
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Is there any plans for this project to provide an api to allow transactions with just the private hex similar to blockchian.info? I can't seem to find any litecoin service that is willing to do this.
Yes, we have this in mind. There will be new features around paper wallets and private keys.
However we don't currently have plans on implementing API access.

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Is there any plans for this project to provide an api to allow transactions with just the private hex similar to blockchian.info? I can't seem to find any litecoin service that is willing to do this.
Yes, we have this in mind. There will be new features around paper wallets and private keys.
However we don't currently have plans on implementing API access.

Lame. Ok, well thank you for your response. I didn't want to be bothered with running a full litecoin client just to push transactions to the chain, this is a huge barrier to overcome for web developers. Massive amounts of storage is required to work with multiple chains, there has to be a better solution.
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June 15, 2013, 10:10:57 AM
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How can I turn off the renew option? I've invested some LTC but if I can't turn this off it will always renew and I will never be able to withdraw my original investment? Or am I missing something?  Smiley

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A button to disable autorenew appears after 3 terms is over.
We are also planning to show a cancel button for the first 5 days just in case someone left the box checked by mistake.

Please PM me your investment # and amount and I'll disable autorenew for you.

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June 15, 2013, 12:04:04 PM
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"You can cancel your investments and take the coins back at any time. In this case a 3% fee is applied to the amount you invested, and no interest is paid."


this is a great idea, that way pyramining should have done.....


 
 
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June 17, 2013, 04:29:05 AM
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Update:
It's possible to cancel automatic renewal of your investment within the first 3 days of setup.

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June 21, 2013, 08:05:56 PM
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Update:
It's possible to cancel automatic renewal of your investment within the first 3 days of setup.

great


 
 
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June 23, 2013, 02:12:58 PM
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As of June 26th we will be lowering interest rates for new investments. This is done to cope with increased popularity and higher volumes.

Note that current investments will NOT be changed.
You can also lock current rates and terms if you select the auto renew checkbox on or before June 26th.

New terms would be as follows
15 days @ 1%
30 days @ 3%
60 days @ 7%
90 days @ 12%

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As of June 26th we will be lowering interest rates for new investments. This is done to cope with increased popularity and higher volumes.

Note that current investments will NOT be changed.
You can also lock current rates and terms if you select the auto renew checkbox on or before June 26th.

New terms would be as follows
15 days @ 1%
30 days @ 3%
60 days @ 7%
90 days @ 12%

is it possible to lock on already set investments not locked before??


 
 
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June 23, 2013, 10:52:59 PM
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As of June 26th we will be lowering interest rates for new investments. This is done to cope with increased popularity and higher volumes.

Note that current investments will NOT be changed.
You can also lock current rates and terms if you select the auto renew checkbox on or before June 26th.

New terms would be as follows
15 days @ 1%
30 days @ 3%
60 days @ 7%
90 days @ 12%

is it possible to lock on already set investments not locked before??

I'm wondering about this as well, lol.

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June 24, 2013, 01:01:22 AM
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A button to disable autorenew appears after 3 terms is over.
We are also planning to show a cancel button for the first 5 days just in case someone left the box checked by mistake.

Please PM me your investment # and amount and I'll disable autorenew for you.


and that way, if i set autorenew terms before jun 25, for e.g. 60 days, it will renew automatically for 3 times so 180 days??? and if someone decide after that period to renew again ? is it possible to renew automatically again maintaining previous interest rate of 12 %for other 60 days for 3 times, again 180 days? (maybe someone that doesnìt need to take away his deposits)


 
 
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sorry and how are you getting the profits to pay the interest?
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June 24, 2013, 08:53:13 AM
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sorry and how are you getting the profits to pay the interest?

He takes your coins and invests them. The % interest is an incentive to invest in him, which you will receive at the end of your term. If he profits a lot from the investments, he is happy and you are happy because after deducting interest owed to you, he would still have profited on his side. If he gets burned slightly, then he'll probably pay the interest out of his own pocket. Kinda like a bank actually.
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is it possible to lock on already set investments not locked before??
Yes, just PM me your wallet key and investment ID you would like to lock.

Secure online Litecoin wallet: https://ltc-wallet.com
Secure online FeatherCoin wallet: https://ftc-wallet.com
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A button to disable autorenew appears after 3 terms is over.
We are also planning to show a cancel button for the first 5 days just in case someone left the box checked by mistake.

Please PM me your investment # and amount and I'll disable autorenew for you.


and that way, if i set autorenew terms before jun 25, for e.g. 60 days, it will renew automatically for 3 times so 180 days??? and if someone decide after that period to renew again ? is it possible to renew automatically again maintaining previous interest rate of 12 %for other 60 days for 3 times, again 180 days? (maybe someone that doesnìt need to take away his deposits)
We are going to make this configurable so you could select the number of renewal periods yourself. As of now, just PM me your investment ID and wallet key, and I will set the number of periods manually (no more than 6).

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sorry and how are you getting the profits to pay the interest?
If he gets burned slightly, then he'll probably pay the interest out of his own pocket.

hmmm sure  Roll Eyes
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We are now running Litecoin v0.6.9.1

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June 27, 2013, 03:10:54 PM
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@toork, we are having some issues with the payouts that expire on Jun 26, 2013. Could you please help on this?

Thanks again

Jesus
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site is down... i hope it's only for maintenance


 
 
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site is down... i hope it's only for maintenance

Oh boy. I hope it's maintenance too.
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i begin to think it's a real scam. i would be happy to see that is not scam of course.... but as times passes, as the scam evidence increase.

at this moment i give up with this business... is too risky.... every kind of speculation that does not involve big player is too risky , like trading between users, investment funds with no established company... these things should  be avoided by everyone, even with tempting rates or good system of organization , like that toork that posted all of these things (decreasing of rates like a real company that is increasing business, support on first days of project, and other) , even use of https on the site and some sort of protection, all scam used as a bait for users.
i saw about more that 200 investment were reached on that wallet. guys, all that money is lost. unuseful to keep hope in these situation.
if you have bitcoin or litecoin, keep them all in your wallet.
nothing to do more than asking to admin to put "scam" on the title.

however always happy to see i'm wrong... but in these cases i never get wrong. the guy is not connecting from yesterday. he has already escaped or however shutdown the scam sites.


 
 
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Is there any plans for this project to provide an api to allow transactions with just the private hex similar to blockchian.info? I can't seem to find any litecoin service that is willing to do this.
Yes, we have this in mind. There will be new features around paper wallets and private keys.
However we don't currently have plans on implementing API access.

no , you had only in mind to scam the people... damn you!!!

happy to be able to excuse me if i'm wrong, if it's also a delay for technical reason. but surely is not. never is in these cases. neither a written message of "maintenance" . is already good that this guy has not posted a porno image to say "i fucked you all" like i saw on another site another time (5 years ago)


 
 
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June 27, 2013, 11:00:01 PM
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I put my 500+ LTC on ltc-wallet.com. It gives me 502 Bad Gateway today. It seemed to me like a legit website, but of course I have doubts while reading this topic, should definetely have been more carefull. I'll be giving updates

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Ufff... The domain ltc-wallet.com does not even exit anymore... 
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its always that way... people tell "you are a scammer!" the guy reply "what you are talking about? im an honest man i have projects in mind etc..." and at the last the guy goes out with the money. i have no trouble in saying i hope that son of a bitch will be killed by a tir in the worst thing possible. the world is a piece of shit because there are people like this. thats the last situation in wich someone scam me. i prefer to not work or invest if the risk is to lose all like here.


 
 
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definetely a scam indeed. He did have SSL, maybe we could gain some information from that?

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 Private, Registration LTC-WALLET.COM@domainsbyproxy.com Domains By Proxy, LLC DomainsByProxy.com 14747 N Northsight Blvd Suite 111, PMB 309 Scottsdale, Arizona 85260 United States (480) 624-2599 Fax -- (480) 624-2598
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I may be mistaken toork, but I think tex83 wants you to die.


if he scammed, of course!!!!

but however i would be happy to apologize for the imprecation and withdraw all my deposit even with 5% of fees instead of 3% if he doesnt scam. but it will not be that last way. he has scammed, i lost hope

1. How many LTC did you have on deposit?
2. Do you know about liteaddress.org?


not so much, surely less than other users here that are talking about 900. but that is not important. the important thing is that the guy is stealing money not from guys that stealed from him first, but instead decided to invest in his project trusting that project.. so that bring that in a right world that guy should be left among the people he scammed, so we will see if his body remain complete or some arm and other piece of the body will fly away

i never heard about liteaddress.org


 
 
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probably he (or she) signed up at domainsbyproxy.com using fake information and let them pay and handle ssl verification via godaddy.com. Could try to obtain information through any of these companies though.
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June 28, 2013, 12:24:02 AM
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someone in usa at least i hope will expose penal complaint against him. for every people he scammed around the world. and i hope justice in usa is better than in my country, at least 50% of that we see in the films


 
 
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June 28, 2013, 12:31:54 AM
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@SavellM
PM me your wallet address to get a refund

give a refound to us piece of shit


 
 
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June 28, 2013, 12:38:06 AM
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Is there any plans for this project to provide an api to allow transactions with just the private hex similar to blockchian.info? I can't seem to find any litecoin service that is willing to do this.

the only plan he had from beginning is to steal from us. that topic i want to become a monitor for every person that will think to invest in other situation like that, that surely will prompt out in next months, since scammers surely will not end with that demonic guy that i hope will go asap to hell (or he find someone that will send him and revenge every single user he scammed here and everywhere)


 
 
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June 28, 2013, 12:45:41 AM
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I had a (functional) account at ltc-wallet.com as well, where my handful of mined LTCs went, since I didn't want to maintain my own wallet on my computer - yet another piece of junkware.

I've done a number of deposit/withdrawals on the thing, and it worked fine, if just a little glitchy and strangely designed interface (no balance up front? have to hit "withdraw" to see it? weird).

Today OpenDNS popped up an error for me for the first time, and freaked me out something fierce. The domain's gone?! Really? Right when I absolutely need that $40 in LTC I've mined? I don't have money for food anymore after making the car payment this month. I was hoping to rely on that LTC to stay afloat the next week 'til the next paycheck (that itself will mostly go to bills).

I hate being a morally upstanding, honest member of society. Karma never works.  Embarrassed

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June 28, 2013, 12:58:19 AM
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Nope, not a drop of sarcasm in all of that. Being an honest person has honestly been a net-negative for me: I could be rich if I didn't care about other people, the environment, social progress, or otherwise. I could get involved in dirty politics, malware, hacking/scamming, all sorts of stuff, but I don't. I work in computer repair doing a job that genuinely makes me happy, and it doesn't pay enough to cover basic housing, utilities, and the car payment. So I put some extra parts to work to try to make some side income - only about $15-20 a week, but still, it's better than nothing.

Now, that place I was storing my mined Litecoins (while I wait for my BFL Jalapeno, ordered while everyone was saying "LOL SCAM" which I knew wasn't true) has disappeared from the internet. It could be a genuine site-owner mishap where the site owner wasn't really active in maintaining the site, so I'm still holding out hope. But no, there's no sarcasm in saying that I'm really starting to hate being a white/grey-hat individual... :/

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June 28, 2013, 01:05:57 AM
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im really sorry to hear about that ... and it is not for scam persons like me that these scammers have to die, but for scam persons like you that you really needed that money, and this damned guy deliberately stolen from. i never forgive him


 
 
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June 28, 2013, 01:08:45 AM
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I could be rich if I didn't care about other people, the environment, social progress, or otherwise. I could get involved in dirty politics, malware, hacking/scamming, all sorts of stuff, but I don't. I work in computer repair doing a job that genuinely makes me happy,

You are rich.

Would you rather be financially rich... and miserable?
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June 28, 2013, 01:26:56 AM
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You are rich.

Would you rather be financially rich... and miserable?

At this point it'd be better than having every waking moment haunted by past-due bills and negative accounts, unable to afford basic things like food and utilities. Let alone nice things like, you know, moving out of this horrible city I'm stuck in. I'm not rich in any capacity. I love doing computer work, but there's a limit to how much of my soul and existence I can sell in trade for doing something I love... and right now, it's just not paying the bills. Sad

edit: Also, no, lol... having money would NOT make me miserable. Maybe I could afford to support a family and kids and actually move on with life... that whole "money can't buy happiness" crap has limits.

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June 28, 2013, 01:35:09 AM
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Toork, damn you wherever you are!!!!!


 
 
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June 28, 2013, 02:00:45 AM
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Also, no, lol... having money would NOT make me miserable. Maybe I could afford to support a family and kids and actually move on with life... that whole "money can't buy happiness" crap has limits.

That's not what I meant at all. You said you could be rich if you...

"didn't care about other people, the environment, social progress, or otherwise. I could get involved in dirty politics, malware, hacking/scamming, all sorts of stuff".

Karma would then make you miserable.


I'm sure there are ways to be financially rich AND happy with yourself Smiley
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June 28, 2013, 02:29:41 AM
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I put my 500+ LTC on ltc-wallet.com. It gives me 502 Bad Gateway today. It seemed to me like a legit website, but of course I have doubts while reading this topic, should definetely have been more carefull. I'll be giving updates

@azaniet I think it was your deposit that triggered toork to end the scam and take the loot.

The usual advice applies that when an offer looks too good to be true it probably is - earning interest on cryptocurrencies should be a huge warning sign

Also, never deposit into a wallet that doesn't let you export the private key.
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June 28, 2013, 02:44:05 AM
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OK, I did a little sleuthing.

- ltc-wallet.com is still registered and active, but has a DNS error: no A records are returned by the name server.
- It's registered with GoDaddy (might be worth giving them a call).
- The SOA entry points to domaincontrol.com to use as DNS control, and domaincontrol.com is a GoDaddy site - which right now is also corrupt (does not return any A records).

Code:
C:\Users\Falcon>nslookup ltc-wallet.com ns51.domaincontrol.com
Server:  UnKnown
Address:  216.69.185.26

Name:    ltc-wallet.com


C:\Users\Falcon>

I suspect technical problems. Might be too early to sound the "OMG SCAMMER STOLE MY MONEY!!" alarms.

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June 28, 2013, 03:01:50 AM
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Okay, called GoDaddy. Apparently the domain was updated just today, and while the situation is "unusual", it's not likely canceled or pulled - just in some weird state of limbo by the developer. I suspect, given the server errors shown recently and the recent posts here on litecoin.net forums, it's no "SCAMMER STOLE MAH MONEYS" situation, just a bumpy server transition.

*crosses fingers*

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June 28, 2013, 04:44:38 AM
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Okay, called GoDaddy. Apparently the domain was updated just today, and while the situation is "unusual", it's not likely canceled or pulled - just in some weird state of limbo by the developer. I suspect, given the server errors shown recently and the recent posts here on litecoin.net forums, it's no "SCAMMER STOLE MAH MONEYS" situation, just a bumpy server transition.

*crosses fingers*

I very very much want to believe you.

*crosses fingers too*
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June 28, 2013, 06:49:00 AM
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it's useless.... the coins are all lost.

but in the miracolous case that really the guy has not escaped, i will give him also 5 % not 3 % to exit before completion and excuse for all the imprecations i sent him.

but that will not be this case, i repeat.


 
 
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June 28, 2013, 07:00:32 AM
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You're the worst case of pessimism I've ever seen, tex83rb. Shit, I *NEED* the money to eat and pay bills, what little bit I can get... and most people here seem to just be in it for the stocks thrill and "intelligent investment" opportunities.

Side note: I STILL have not found a credible alternative to ltc-wallet.com. There's liteaddress.org but the function of that website is completely unknown to me... I generate an "address" and I get a public key, but I have no clue what to do with that information - no way to deposit or withdraw that I can find, and not willing to send a coin to that address (abyss?) to find out. So I've just installed Litecoin-QT on my home server and I guess I'll just be managing it there from now on. I just don't feel like a hundred thousand independent blockchain-maintaining clients is the best solution to using Litecoin or Bitcoin... :/

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June 28, 2013, 07:09:41 AM
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Okay, called GoDaddy. Apparently the domain was updated just today, and while the situation is "unusual", it's not likely canceled or pulled - just in some weird state of limbo by the developer. I suspect, given the server errors shown recently and the recent posts here on litecoin.net forums, it's no "SCAMMER STOLE MAH MONEYS" situation, just a bumpy server transition.

*crosses fingers*

Thanks a lot for the info man.
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June 28, 2013, 07:29:31 AM
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Thanks FalconFour for looking into this.

I remain cautiously optimistic. why? i don't know perhaps denial

I had 505 lite coins in the wallet that I have been buying every month for the last few months

Looking at previous posts it appears that this Toork charector also had a feather coin wallet  https://ftc-wallet.com this is also down.

Now it could be a technical issue his last posts mentioned some changes that they were making these things happens I guess. What concerns me is that we haven't heard anything from the guy , No posts saying sorry we are working to fix this issue.....nothing!


Try to remain positive my fellow LTC wallet users for now. 
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Well shit. I was about to pull my LTC in the 26th! There goes my 27 LTC. Any word? Trook have a twitter?
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Doesn't Bitcointalk record peeps IP address? So we can locate that SOB. 
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Yes, it is safe to use our wallet.

Goddamnit. Hope you guys can get your money back.. Contact the providers and always go to your local police department. These kind of cons always do what they know best: conning people. If there are enough complaints (not only regarding this website) there is a good chance they will try to follow their available leads.
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June 28, 2013, 01:57:37 PM
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Wait a little while though..
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Here's an idea that will increase trust in AltCurrencies:

Each of the major exchanges should form a working group to monitor these potential fraud/schemes. If enough complaints surface (such as what happened here), accounts on those exchanges should be suspended pending investigation.

The working group should remain completely open and transparent and all results of their investigation should be published immediately.
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June 28, 2013, 10:19:27 PM
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@1base58 you might be right. I blame myself for being too trustworthy.

It is not possible to track the LTC's through blockchaininfo (for LTC) is it? (Because the adress for receiving and sending are not linked)?.

We might be able to get some information about the real owner of this website or an IP address from bitcointalk.org to see if we can find him. I do not know how well the website https://www.domainsbyproxy.com/ handles the identification verification, but it might be possible that they have real owner information that was required for the SSL verification.

@toork (We) and definetely, I will put effort into obtaining your identity to get a refund of my invested money. If there has been a misundertanding, I sincerely appologize and hope to hear from you asap in order to clear things up.

Any help from people to track toork is greatly appreciated.

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Interesting...  Will be checking it out.
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We need a bounty on Toork head to find him. Angry I found the Twitter account associated with ltc-wallet.com @LitecoinWallet

We are a step closer!
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No one bothered to obtain and confirm real personal details on a online wallet service?
Shakes head...

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Yeah, now a full day later with no word back from the developer on this forum, the site, nor the Litecoin.net forum (and this post in particular).

Well, I'm considering pulling out of Litecoin then. No credible wallet services, and scammers running what appeared to be a completely legitimate Litecoin wallet. I'll tell you one thing: LTC-Wallet.com never set off any of my "scam alert" red flags until now. Any reputable website developer would have come back to contact their users while they were transitioning a server, and the record *WAS* just updated yesterday meaning the guy *is* alive and well. Just hopefully not "well" for much longer once We, the Internet catch up with him...

No one bothered to obtain and confirm real personal details on a online wallet service?
Shakes head...

No, because nobody should have to bend over backwards to try to stalk the developer of every website they come in contact with to verify that it's "real" first. However, anyone putting more than a hundred bucks into any website should have the common sense to use their own Litecoin client instead of trusting a site like this. I was only working in small amounts and storing them here for the sake of convenience (since Vircurex kept "losing" deposit addresses and vaporizing my mined Litecoins into oblivion while I wasn't watching), so I only lost maybe $40 at the very worst - probably less, as the value of LTC drops like a rock now because of this massive ripoff.

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Here's some fun for the network guru types like myself to sink their teeth into:

DNS servers for ltc-wallet.com are ns51.domaincontrol.com and dns.jomax.net. http://who.is/dns/ltc-wallet.com is a great resource at this point.

dns.jomax.net is invalid and returns a bad domain result from OpenDNS (67.215.65.132 is OpenDNS' "bad result" IP).
DNS lookup for jomax.net DOES return a valid result (64.202.167.166) but there doesn't appear to be a server running there (port scan, anyone?) - but the IP is part of GoDaddy's servers - rDNS as "gdplugins-v06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net". Strange. Usually, a legit web service like GoDaddy would place a redirection web-server on all their web-facing service provider servers so network geeks can see they're functioning servers.

(that server also doesn't respond to DNS queries.)

Lots of GoDaddy and nothing going anywhere. GoDaddy is definitely the company to contact about the site, though...

We're still not getting through to any web servers at all, and I have a strong suspicion that the web servers running ltc-wallet.com *ARE* still alive and spinning if we could link DNS to them somehow. That's what I'm digging into - trying to find an alive webserver out there that'd be likely to respond to a "HOST: ltc-wallet.com" HTTP header and give us the damn site.

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Here's some fun for the network guru types like myself to sink their teeth into:

DNS servers for ltc-wallet.com are ns51.domaincontrol.com and dns.jomax.net. http://who.is/dns/ltc-wallet.com is a great resource at this point.

dns.jomax.net is invalid and returns a bad domain result from OpenDNS (67.215.65.132 is OpenDNS' "bad result" IP).
DNS lookup for jomax.net DOES return a valid result (64.202.167.166) but there doesn't appear to be a server running there (port scan, anyone?) - but the IP is part of GoDaddy's servers - rDNS as "gdplugins-v06.prod.mesa1.secureserver.net". Strange. Usually, a legit web service like GoDaddy would place a redirection web-server on all their web-facing service provider servers so network geeks can see they're functioning servers.

(that server also doesn't respond to DNS queries.)

Lots of GoDaddy and nothing going anywhere. GoDaddy is definitely the company to contact about the site, though...

We're still not getting through to any web servers at all, and I have a strong suspicion that the web servers running ltc-wallet.com *ARE* still alive and spinning if we could link DNS to them somehow. That's what I'm digging into - trying to find an alive webserver out there that'd be likely to respond to a "HOST: ltc-wallet.com" HTTP header and give us the damn site.

Good work. Even though I have no idea what you talking about more than half of the time. Glad someone doing some digging. Whats you LTC address? (tip)   Smiley
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Good work. Even though I have no idea what you talking about more than half of the time. Glad someone doing some digging. Whats you LTC address? (tip)   Smiley
Hah. Smiley I hope someone can track them down with some of this info. I've run websites myself and I've always worked to keep users up-to-date on server transitions (even while one of my projects was a self-hosted file-serving website), so if nothing else, this guy really needs a lesson on how to maintain a website. Given the information dug up by that Litecoin.net forum mod in the link provided a couple posts back, I think we're beyond the "bumpy server transition" phase and squarely now into "the guy took our money and ran" territory...

As for the tip (Cheesy), I updated my sig with a Litecoin address. Smiley

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I mean, wasnt 12% interest for 90 days enough of a tipoff guys? I mean, cmon, really...  Roll Eyes
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I mean, wasnt 12% interest for 90 days enough of a tipoff guys? I mean, cmon, really...  Roll Eyes
That wasn't even part of the site when I signed up - no part about it said "interest" or anything. I just wanted a wallet - a place to catch the litecoins dripping out of my litecoinpool.org account where they won't be digitally vaporized by Vircurex when they dump my deposit address I was using. I only later saw these ridiculous claims of interest payments once I started snooping around for info about the dead site...

(Shit, I think at this point I've lost half the coins I've mined with fucking Litecoin. Definitely not waving the "Litecoin is awesome!" flag around anymore, myself...)

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Yeah, now a full day later with no word back from the developer on this forum, the site, nor the Litecoin.net forum (and this post in particular).

Well, I'm considering pulling out of Litecoin then. No credible wallet services, and scammers running what appeared to be a completely legitimate Litecoin wallet. I'll tell you one thing: LTC-Wallet.com never set off any of my "scam alert" red flags until now. Any reputable website developer would have come back to contact their users while they were transitioning a server, and the record *WAS* just updated yesterday meaning the guy *is* alive and well. Just hopefully not "well" for much longer once We, the Internet catch up with him...

No one bothered to obtain and confirm real personal details on a online wallet service?
Shakes head...

No, because nobody should have to bend over backwards to try to stalk the developer of every website they come in contact with to verify that it's "real" first. However, anyone putting more than a hundred bucks into any website should have the common sense to use their own Litecoin client instead of trusting a site like this. I was only working in small amounts and storing them here for the sake of convenience (since Vircurex kept "losing" deposit addresses and vaporizing my mined Litecoins into oblivion while I wasn't watching), so I only lost maybe $40 at the very worst - probably less, as the value of LTC drops like a rock now because of this massive ripoff.

Every website ? You cannot read can you, I said for a online wallet service where large amounts of coins can be stored = lots of money = prone to scammers. Using words like "stalk" and "bend over backwards" is just you being  emotional for losing coins. Come on its not hard, if it is too hard they don't want you to know for a reason...
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Well shit. I was about to pull my LTC in the 26th! There goes my 27 LTC. Any word? Trook have a twitter?

I wish the asshole dies soon in big pain. I lost 30 LTC. I used it as a temporary wallet only for one week.
Lets organize a fund-raising campaign and announce some reward for headhunter who tracks that asshole. Embarrassed
 Smash the crap. Jerk !! If only I can slap him around. Embarrassed Embarrassed  Roll Eyes
how much could cost an order of woo doo death on silk-road???

Cry Cry Cry Cry forget FBI and their luxury jail with internet connectivity it would be a holiday for that jerk.Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Cry Cry Cry Cry
Lets order Hanibal Lecter   Roll Eyes Cry to show him pleasure from real torture. I wanna torture him for the rest of his useless life for every single LTC he stole from our community!!! Embarrassed Embarrassed
I wanna see him begging for death on knees but I would torture him for years somewhere in hidden place and broadcast it online to internet so that every jerk like him could see what would follow in such cases!!!! Embarrassed EmbarrassedEmbarrassedEmbarrassed Cry Cry Cry Cry  Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes

Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed I wish SLOW AND VERY PAINFUL death for that scum!!!!!!!!!!! Embarrassed Embarrassed  Cry Cry Cry  Roll Eyes
Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry
Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed do you hear me you fuckface?  Roll Eyes  if we ever meet you somewhere you can count on spending the rest of your f***life in fu****hell Embarrassed Embarrassed Embarrassed Cry Cry Cry Cry
If only I knew their identity I would buy immediately an airticket and flew to their place with all my friends and torture that crap and take back all money.
once we find you piece of shit your days will turn to hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I'm kind of surprised you guys are throwing around scam accusations already. Just a few days ago (on the 24th) I had let him know about some problems with the site and he got back to me and fixed them pretty quick.

He only comes to the forums every few days though (and this has been even prior to all these claims), so you guys are really rushing things I think. I've talked to him quite a bit now, and he has always been up-front about things and has done very well about helping with problems and answering any questions I had.

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That's nice and all, but this post on the Litecoin forums says it all:

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I'm not going to talk about the details of this supposed scam, but all I can say is:
toork used a tor e-mail address and is using several IP addresses which relate to anonymous services like mullvad.net .

I'm only giving these facts, I'm not going to judge. At least, for now.

That sets off every scam alert in the book. There's no reason to be using a Tor email address on the forums and anonymous proxies while running a legitimate website.

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I'm kind of surprised you guys are throwing around scam accusations already. Just a few days ago (on the 24th) I had let him know about some problems with the site and he got back to me and fixed them pretty quick.

He only comes to the forums every few days though (and this has been even prior to all these claims), so you guys are really rushing things I think. I've talked to him quite a bit now, and he has always been up-front about things and has done very well about helping with problems and answering any questions I had.


you have talked to him Huh?

so please tell us clearly what he said....

or still better, tell him if he is not a scammer, at least to write something that can quiet us.... like "don't worry i'm working on it" and clearify all technical troubles that he is involved right now for this delay without explications.


instead, for the situation that has been take place right now, he is a scammer, and one of the worst of all. and please don't defend him. respect all of us that have lost money here.

time of hope is over. we need replies concrete. instead who can try to go on with some legal complaint or every thing that is possible in the usa, please go on and don't lose any time more.


 
 
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June 30, 2013, 06:22:32 AM
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That sets off every scam alert in the book. There's no reason to be using a Tor email address on the forums and anonymous proxies while running a legitimate website.

And there's no reason to try to hide your identity while inventing a legitimate currency, right?

Please don't tell me that's "not the same thing"... there are plenty of reasons to use TOR while running legitimate websites.
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I'm kind of surprised you guys are throwing around scam accusations already. Just a few days ago (on the 24th) I had let him know about some problems with the site and he got back to me and fixed them pretty quick.

He only comes to the forums every few days though (and this has been even prior to all these claims), so you guys are really rushing things I think. I've talked to him quite a bit now, and he has always been up-front about things and has done very well about helping with problems and answering any questions I had.


you have talked to him Huh?

so please tell us clearly what he said....

or still better, tell him if he is not a scammer, at least to write something that can quiet us.... like "don't worry i'm working on it" and clearify all technical troubles that he is involved right now for this delay without explications.


instead, for the situation that has been take place right now, he is a scammer, and one of the worst of all. and please don't defend him. respect all of us that have lost money here.

time of hope is over. we need replies concrete. instead who can try to go on with some legal complaint or every thing that is possible in the usa, please go on and don't lose any time more.

Please actually read my post next time; don't just reply ignorantly while refusing to read it.

And "...respect all of us that have lost money here?" Seriously? I probably have more money tied up in that site than most of you do.

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Please stop with this kind of "moral" ...
we need facts.
don't take defends of this guy if you cant clarify the reasons for which you are taking his defends


 
 
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I had around 60LTC stored in the wallet.  When I saw the investing options, I thought it was a scam so I tried to remove my LTC from the wallet, but I kept getting server errors.  Then the site just went offline.  I'm assuming I'll never see those Litecoins again.  Hopefully this is all a big misunderstanding, but it looks like he just took the money and ran.
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I had around 60LTC stored in the wallet.  When I saw the investing options, I thought it was a scam so I tried to remove my LTC from the wallet, but I kept getting server errors.  Then the site just went offline.  I'm assuming I'll never see those Litecoins again.  Hopefully this is all a big misunderstanding, but it looks like he just took the money and ran.

hello

I had the same problems.
unfortunately I didnot read this thread every day so I didnot know about upcoming problems, and by the end of June it didnot matter either because you couldnot move your LTC away due to "error"

I look at my old LTC address which I had in ltc-wallet and looked how the ltc moved from here to there and it ended here :

http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/ac782020f007b44be7d23deb0ed967618937fb00424bc555fb9b2b644b80c373#i2

Index   Redeemed at input   Amount   To address   ScriptPubKey
0    Not yet redeemed    0.01000003    LZnh7emPzQgEHTffcpkbitJojBE36KaF3h    DUP HASH160 20:9fc2...ccce EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG
1    Not yet redeemed    939.5    LZVGwihdbZvQqLMexKataBoW17jmMFXeah    DUP HASH160 20:9c77...7a93 EQUALVERIFY CHECKSIG


but what can I do with this information? Huh
how can I find who this address belong to, is there a way how to see dates of all transactions (not only dates from very beginning)  Huh Huh
how can I know whether ltc still belongs to that crap or whether he sold them somewhere or whether it ended somewhere in LTC web laundery?  Huh Huh Huh Huh
when we have developers like Software Engineer warren and aspect and others developers  cannot we implement something what could stopp problematic transactions?
something like if during first XX confirmations turns out that it happened a robbery, and more than 51% users would agree than any transaction after certain moment will not be confirmed (will not be valid) and LTC would not move from original owners??  Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh Huh
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I lost around 850 LTC and a friend of mine lost over 2000... We are both unemployed and had our hope in crypto to change our respective shit situations... I guess this is how you learn, eh?

Toork, you better put those two hands of yours together now and pray good and hard that your identity is never ever revealed publicly.
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I lost around 850 LTC and a friend of mine lost over 2000... We are both unemployed and had our hope in crypto to change our respective shit situations... I guess this is how you learn, eh?

Toork, you better put those two hands of yours together now and pray good and hard that your identity is never ever revealed publicly.

I dont believe that the crap could be such perfect that he would not leave any trace.
It is impossible. and perhaps he was not just alone.
They must live somewhere, eat and drink and breath every day, he must bought somewhere computer and other stuff, besides it
he must built the whole website and other things. The jerk must use some internet connection some email accounts some bank accounts some litecoin wallets he must have sold part of / or all / stolen litecoins perhaps on BTC-e.com - where else he could get rid of so many LTC quickly?? nobody is perfect and he must planned this from the very beginning.
I doubt he lives like a hermit somewhere in woods - probably he lives in developed country in big city so his activities must be connected with many people, perhaps he pays the rent for a flat or a mortgage or car lease or something. Someone could notice something. And besides all this last two months he must triplechecked everything - communication through tor, etc. what must slowed significantly all his activities or he could make some faults and leaks.
 They must probably made some leaks so qeustion is how we can find the leaks and track him and then torture him for every single litecoin he stole from our community!!!
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June 30, 2013, 08:32:08 PM
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I lost around 850 LTC and a friend of mine lost over 2000... We are both unemployed and had our hope in crypto to change our respective shit situations... I guess this is how you learn, eh?

Toork, you better put those two hands of yours together now and pray good and hard that your identity is never ever revealed publicly.

I feel really sorry for you guys. To be honest I still think LTC is a good investment. Put the money you can spend on your wallet and encrypt it. The day LTC rises/hits gox you still be able to recover some money. Hope it works out, good luck anyway
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To all you guys don't let this guy ruin your well-being. I was scammed once pretty hard in real life hard as well. I took it very bad and it put in me in a very dark place. I hope you manage to handle this well, if not don't hesitate to seek some advice. Good luck
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To all you guys don't let this guy ruin your well-being. I was scammed once pretty hard in real life hard as well. I took it very bad and it put in me in a very dark place. I hope you manage to handle this well, if not don't hesitate to seek some advice. Good luck

thank you for your nice words  Smiley

but if only I knew their identity I would buy immediately an airticket and flew to their place with all my friends and torture that crap and take back all money. I would not wait for police or FBI but I would prefer to get them before someone else slaughter them and once we find the crap their days will turn to hell!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  EmbarrassedI hope the case will not be forgetten and the crap will be caught very soon and someone who lost huge amount of money could turn their useless existence into hell on earth !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!   Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed  Embarrassed

they are things which cannot be forgiven by any case and this is one of them. I wish the jerk will die in big pain !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I feel really sorry for you guys. To be honest I still think LTC is a good investment. Put the money you can spend on your wallet and encrypt it. The day LTC rises/hits gox you still be able to recover some money. Hope it works out, good luck anyway

Thanks man for your kind words, I'm quite drunk now but yeah I agree that LTC is still a good investment! No more to go in with though, totally broke and ruined here. We both went "all-in" to make the most out of the coming mt.gox introduction and we where both stupid enough to fall for the LTC-Wallet interest deal with our entire savings and tax-returns. FML...
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I had 3 LTC in my ltc-wallet.com account. My friend had over 1000 LTC in his account. Now he can't pay his bills, he can't buy food, and his savings is all gone. Good thing i kept most of my LTC in wallet on my computer. This is very unfortunate for everyone in the LTC community.
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I dont believe that the crap could be such perfect that he would not leave any trace.
It is impossible. and perhaps he was not just alone.
They must live somewhere, eat and drink and breath every day, he must bought somewhere computer and other stuff, besides it
he must built the whole website and other things. The jerk must use some internet connection some email accounts some bank accounts some litecoin wallets he must have sold part of / or all / stolen litecoins perhaps on BTC-e.com - where else he could get rid of so many LTC quickly?? nobody is perfect and he must planned this from the very beginning.
I doubt he lives like a hermit somewhere in woods - probably he lives in developed country in big city so his activities must be connected with many people, perhaps he pays the rent for a flat or a mortgage or car lease or something. Someone could notice something. And besides all this last two months he must triplechecked everything - communication through tor, etc. what must slowed significantly all his activities or he could make some faults and leaks.
 They must probably made some leaks so qeustion is how we can find the leaks and track him and then torture him for every single litecoin he stole from our community!!!

We'll see what happens I guess... I have much faith in the technology with both crypto currency and TOR so I wouldn't bet on him being caught. It's probably not the first time he operates a scam either.

For what it may be worth the name "Toork" seems to mean 'a wanderer', 'origin from a tribe of wandering people' or 'origin from a tribe of mixed races' in Persian while it could mean both 'trumpet' or 'blast' in hindi. My personal guess is that some young man somewhere in India is set for life now.
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I lost around 850 LTC and a friend of mine lost over 2000... We are both unemployed and had our hope in crypto to change our respective shit situations... I guess this is how you learn, eh?

Toork, you better put those two hands of yours together now and pray good and hard that your identity is never ever revealed publicly.

Man I feel for you I had 500+ in my account . Although I'm fortunate enough to have a full time job. My hope was in a year or so my litecoins would go up to a point where I could cash out and me and my girlfriend would have a nice deposit to buy a home.

I'm giving it another day then I will be exploring some options for finding this guy, not sure how much good it will do but there are some crafty charectors out there.

It's a shame because an online ltc wallet is a great idea. I have no problem paying small transaction fees if I know that it is a legit service. There is money to be made for this kind of thing although I think this experience has soured a lot of people's opinion on this.

To the people posting "you should of known better" etc etc . This helps no one a lot of people including myself were not interested in earning interest option they had, we just wanted a place to store our litecoins online and the site had a lot of the signs of being legit.

Toork if your reading this and there is a legit technical issue let the community know right away. If you have scammed us you should think hard about it as fucking people over like this will bring some very bad karma your way.





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This is a shame to hear.  Shocked

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One thing I don't get is he had a litecoin wallet and a feathercoin wallet but no Bitcoin wallet? I mean if your trying to screw someone over why not go for the most valuable crypto currency we have?
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because the btc wallet market is pretty much covered

had my own reservations when using this site back in may https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=176637.msg2089600#msg2089600

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Based on what I read when I started researching this, the site started getting Error 500's (meaning the daemon for the host was down) on the 26th. The site then came back up after that.

It is possible that the site went through another issue on the 27th in relation to the domain or something, though it's really hard to tell. I still think a lot of people are jumping the gun here and making assumptions with no real reasoning behind it. As I said, it has always taken 3-4 days for him to get back to me, even weeks ago. So waiting 3 days now is still just in the realm of normal business.

Now, if this does turn out to have been a scam, I am more than willing to join in on any court cases and such to get back what's ours. I can submit my own testimony as well as anything else that's needed to seek justice.

But at this point I have not seen enough proof that it's a scam, so I am reserving my judgement for later.

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One thing I don't get, is if it's truly a scam, why not keep the website open to more deposits? (From people who may not have seen this thread yet, or noticed the withdrawal issues).
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One thing I don't get, is if it's truly a scam, why not keep the website open to more deposits? (From people who may not have seen this thread yet, or noticed the withdrawal issues).


I believe he may of anticipated a lot of people withdrawing their ltc's when ltc hit gox this month.
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One thing I don't get, is if it's truly a scam, why not keep the website open to more deposits? (From people who may not have seen this thread yet, or noticed the withdrawal issues).


I believe he may of anticipated a lot of people withdrawing their ltc's when ltc hit gox this month.

So then just disable withdrawals? If it's truly a scam, why not keep the website up and keep showing deposit addresses?

I haven't even looked at the site, was never a customer, so it's all guesswork for me.
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This has nothing to do with a 500 error. Here's all the links you need to know to prove the guy took it down and never intended for it to be a long-term website:

http://who.is/dns/ltc-wallet.com (note: no "A" records, and GoDaddy says the host was updated on the day this drama started unfolding - the site was pulled from DNS. Side note: jomax.net is part of GoDaddy, as "Jomax Technologies" was the original name of GoDaddy - but it's strange they'd still be using it).
https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,2266.msg34458.html#msg34458 (using anonymous proxies and a disposable email address to sign-up and post with, which, I maintain, there is no legitimate reason for doing)

Done deal. The guy pulled the site and hopes nobody will find him.

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This has nothing to do with a 500 error. Here's all the links you need to know to prove the guy took it down and never intended for it to be a long-term website:

http://who.is/dns/ltc-wallet.com (note: no "A" records, and GoDaddy says the host was updated on the day this drama started unfolding - the site was pulled from DNS. Side note: jomax.net is part of GoDaddy, as "Jomax Technologies" was the original name of GoDaddy - but it's strange they'd still be using it).
https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,2266.msg34458.html#msg34458 (using anonymous proxies and a disposable email address to sign-up and post with, which, I maintain, there is no legitimate reason for doing)

Done deal. The guy pulled the site and hopes nobody will find him.

Thanks for your efforts mate. Some poor bastard lost over 4000 litecoins, this puts things in perspective for some of us I guess. I have never been fucked like this before. The only thing that gives me solice is this guy will either get caught with this scam or the next or he gets some really bad karma that comes back to bite him .

I'm thinking something like being abducted by a dozen Brock Lesnars that use him for some kind of sex slave for the rest of his life.

At the end of the day as painful as this is I have my health a job a great girl and enjoy my life
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i hope he really pay for that.

and please, at least tag this damn thread as "scam"


 
 
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One thing I don't get, is if it's truly a scam, why not keep the website open to more deposits? (From people who may not have seen this thread yet, or noticed the withdrawal issues).

Maybe it's not a scam, but some problems occured
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One thing I don't get, is if it's truly a scam, why not keep the website open to more deposits? (From people who may not have seen this thread yet, or noticed the withdrawal issues).

Maybe it's not a scam, but some problems occured

how can you still have hope in that infamous guy??
please stop with these useless discussions the only discussions that can have reason to exist now are those involved to catch him, if even possible, and make spit him every single litecoin he stolen from us


 
 
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July 01, 2013, 02:38:11 PM
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This appears to be a repeat of mybitcoin.com + pirate's bitcoin savings & trust.

People who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.

I don't mean to be offensive, but rather blunt.

Cryptocurrencies like Bitcoin, Litecoin, and Feathercoin etc. are meant to give YOU, yes YOU (the user) the power of storing your wealth/money which only you can access when you need to exchange etc.

The thought process of "I'll just store my coins on X-site" needs to be changed to "I'll only store Y% of my total coins on a site when doing A, B, C".

The analogy is simple, if you don't have possession of your coins (meaning the only one to have access to the password(s) to encrypted wallets or your private key), you don't own it.

Just like gold and silver. If you store it in a bank or in a third-party vault, you are taking a risk of the operator of the bank/vault taking your wealth.

Please be safe people, be smart, and please learn from others mistakes in the past. This mistake has already been done many times in the bitcoin community with ACTUAL bitcoins in the worth of tens of thousands of dollars to many millions.


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Holy hell...I'm fuming and at the same time disappointed..I put over 300 LTC back a couple months ago before this "interest" was even a feature (I wasn't even aware that this started until today)..I simply try to find a safe, online place to store my LTC and wait for it to increase in value..I see it going up, I go to check, and suddenly the guy who made it is a scammer. I have no idea if he planned this from the get-go, damn I'm pissed the hell off. I wish there was some way to hold people like this accountable.. -___-

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Okay, called GoDaddy. Apparently the domain was updated just today, and while the situation is "unusual", it's not likely canceled or pulled - just in some weird state of limbo by the developer. I suspect, given the server errors shown recently and the recent posts here on litecoin.net forums, it's no "SCAMMER STOLE MAH MONEYS" situation, just a bumpy server transition.

*crosses fingers*

Falcon, did you ask for toork's name or any info they might have had (billing address, etc.)?
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Okay, called GoDaddy. Apparently the domain was updated just today, and while the situation is "unusual", it's not likely canceled or pulled - just in some weird state of limbo by the developer. I suspect, given the server errors shown recently and the recent posts here on litecoin.net forums, it's no "SCAMMER STOLE MAH MONEYS" situation, just a bumpy server transition.

*crosses fingers*

Falcon, did you ask for toork's name or any info they might have had (billing address, etc.)?

They won't give that information out without a subpoena from law enforcement.

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Okay, called GoDaddy. Apparently the domain was updated just today, and while the situation is "unusual", it's not likely canceled or pulled - just in some weird state of limbo by the developer. I suspect, given the server errors shown recently and the recent posts here on litecoin.net forums, it's no "SCAMMER STOLE MAH MONEYS" situation, just a bumpy server transition.

*crosses fingers*

Falcon, did you ask for toork's name or any info they might have had (billing address, etc.)?

They won't give that information out without a subpoena from law enforcement.

That's what I figured.  I've already contacted a lawyer and will keep everybody here informed.  Thanks for making first contact!
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Okay, called GoDaddy. Apparently the domain was updated just today, and while the situation is "unusual", it's not likely canceled or pulled - just in some weird state of limbo by the developer. I suspect, given the server errors shown recently and the recent posts here on litecoin.net forums, it's no "SCAMMER STOLE MAH MONEYS" situation, just a bumpy server transition.

*crosses fingers*

Falcon, did you ask for toork's name or any info they might have had (billing address, etc.)?

They won't give that information out without a subpoena from law enforcement.

That's what I figured.  I've already contacted a lawyer and will keep everybody here informed.  Thanks for making first contact!

Definitely keep me in the loop, please. If this turns out to be a scam I will definitely be behind you 100% in getting justice. If the police are involved they can also subpoena the payment information which can be used to follow more trails.

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Okay, called GoDaddy. Apparently the domain was updated just today, and while the situation is "unusual", it's not likely canceled or pulled - just in some weird state of limbo by the developer. I suspect, given the server errors shown recently and the recent posts here on litecoin.net forums, it's no "SCAMMER STOLE MAH MONEYS" situation, just a bumpy server transition.

*crosses fingers*

Falcon, did you ask for toork's name or any info they might have had (billing address, etc.)?

They won't give that information out without a subpoena from law enforcement.

That's what I figured.  I've already contacted a lawyer and will keep everybody here informed.  Thanks for making first contact!

Definitely keep me in the loop, please. If this turns out to be a scam I will definitely be behind you 100% in getting justice. If the police are involved they can also subpoena the payment information which can be used to follow more trails.

i too remain in contact with all of you for getting back my ltc or at least condamn these scammers if possible


 
 
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Hi all someone started a thread for people who have been effected by this https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,4783.0.html if you have been effected please post in this thread so we can gauge the severity of this crime. I know most of you guys are probably from the us, I'm from Australia and will update the thread in regards to my report to the australian authorities
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Anybody working on this? I have inquired domainsbyproxy, but i expect it will very difficult to obtain any information from them. Guess i Will have to accept it. He has taken extensive precaution before scamming us. I do not have the capabilities to investigate this further Other than inquiring the associated websites (godaddy). Will be watching this thread though. I sympathize with all of the fellow victims.
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Can the mods please post as much info they can about toork? I know he was using tormail etc but if you could please post all the info you have we can at least compile all the info in regards to this issue so that people can compile comprehensive reports to the authorities.
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Can the mods please post as much info they can about toork? I know he was using tormail etc but if you could please post all the info you have we can at least compile all the info in regards to this issue so that people can compile comprehensive reports to the authorities.

I don't have an account on litecoin's forums but you can toss up my information:

LTC: ~23
FTC: ~300

I was using both of the sites.

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Anybody working on this? I have inquired domainsbyproxy, but i expect it will very difficult to obtain any information from them. Guess i Will have to accept it. He has taken extensive precaution before scamming us. I do not have the capabilities to investigate this further Other than inquiring the associated websites (godaddy). Will be watching this thread though. I sympathize with all of the fellow victims.

Go daddy will not release information about the domain name registration without a subpoena . Not sure if even that will help track this prick down. But I guess it's worth a shot
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Can the mods please post as much info they can about toork? I know he was using tormail etc but if you could please post all the info you have we can at least compile all the info in regards to this issue so that people can compile comprehensive reports to the authorities.

I don't have an account on litecoin's forums but you can toss up my information:

LTC: ~23
FTC: ~300

I was using both of the sites.

Can you take a moment to register ? It's quick I promise just post your addresses and the amount
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Can the mods please post as much info they can about toork? I know he was using tormail etc but if you could please post all the info you have we can at least compile all the info in regards to this issue so that people can compile comprehensive reports to the authorities.

I don't have an account on litecoin's forums but you can toss up my information:

LTC: ~23
FTC: ~300

I was using both of the sites.

Can you take a moment to register ? It's quick I promise just post your addresses and the amount

I'll do it if it ends up making a difference later. I sent coins from three different PC's and each of them requires a bit of work to get in to (as they are primarily used for other tasks). If it goes anywhere, I'll take the time to deal with pulling each of the addresses and the exact amounts.

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I also don't have an account there and hate setting up new accounts for just one post. :/

I only had about 6 LTC balance there, trickled in from litecoinpool.org auto-payments. Here's the address: http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LPDVUMHf9wC5RCvfw8FCWsymsdaVCU8sBP

Funny how each time something got pushed into that address, a withdrawal was almost immediately made as well and the account now has a zero balance. Hmm...

edit: In this transaction:
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/60bbc8e827d5bc2697f1f3dc5a3cd2b296f719290f47159dc2f4f55a7075d464#i11

... to this account ...
http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LPKZnZCRGMLBwnxTSQC2bHV15zNFe7Q6ix

... split out to these accounts ...
http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LVM65ZsMQEEqqdh7QFeiYu4RXcHivBrUZx
http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LXsxC1HspLV5Zvjccx2dU2zia3czEyLdQQ

... with this transaction ...
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/298a44d9d7870c4a98410ab4df358e1953c68b4d6512895f3ccc90a8e268f05e#i0

... one going to each of these addresses ...
http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LQC2RuTtefcueENsVQ5KVFqAeqWrC4cZxK
http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LV7Dhn4NAM7QkviLhv1SZEDfokuVuimZB3

... where the motherload sits at address: LV7Dhn4NAM7QkviLhv1SZEDfokuVuimZB3...

With the scene of the crime being here on June 28th - just hours after the site went down.
http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/4a0bb25cbc661f7268e4f1617c7f9e5555b3fc1236f64688b3c1e32cfa00e15b#i14

Ooh, boy.

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Oh look, another holding pool.

Transaction (look for your balances!): http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/24c997778c2cf115e6ea84d26a8f0afae29bdcbbb757a6ae1cbca2d0036d3b25#i159

Links out to this account: http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LNiEGTQjEtv6pdppfn9HZarzg3uC3KAPBG
Which dumps out in this transaction: http://explorer.litecoin.net/tx/32bd8bbd91ca747ca4f659d2943f0a144614021f5aedc734dcdfbad2c63bb46e#i1

... TO THIS ABSOLUTE MONSTROSITY OF AN ACCOUNT: http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/Lh7cq9mYH4jttQS3iCs5unHqL2GpvAV39t

$262,068 in Litecoin sound like enough of a lawsuit to you? Smiley

edit: account #2 (this post) archived here: http://falconsys.net/temp/litecoin-account-2.htm | account #1 (last post) archived here: http://falconsys.net/temp/litecoin-account-1.htm

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Please, every honest soul, read it.

I'm an unemployed person and I have 90% disability. I can't work for my living because of my disability. I've used to be a trucker before that terrible accident that put me into wheelchair. LTC was my last hope. I took all my savings and deposited it to ltc-wallet. Now that scammer stole everything I had. I have no means to pay my bills. I don't know how to continue. I even don't have money to buy food!

Please. I know there're good and honest people around here. I was a good worker and I worked half of my life for the well-being of this country. If you hear me, please give me a chance to get out of this unfortunate situation and donate some LTC to:

LYGdrwspUa8zPMBHBvjpb97WiBV1pqyQYC

Thank you and may the God bless your way.
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Please, every honest soul, read it.

I'm an unemployed person and I have 90% disability. I can't work for my living because of my disability. I've used to be a trucker before that terrible accident that put me into wheelchair. LTC was my last hope. I took all my savings and deposited it to ltc-wallet. Now that scammer stole everything I had. I have no means to pay my bills. I don't know how to continue. I even don't have money to buy food!

Please. I know there're good and honest people around here. I was a good worker and I worked half of my life for the well-being of this country. If you hear me, please give me a chance to get out of this unfortunate situation and donate some LTC to:

LYGdrwspUa8zPMBHBvjpb97WiBV1pqyQYC

Thank you and may the God bless your way.

I hope I don't come across as unconsiderate but did anyone else get the feeling after reading this it did not come across as genuine ?
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Please, every honest soul, read it.

I'm an unemployed person and I have 90% disability. I can't work for my living because of my disability. I've used to be a trucker before that terrible accident that put me into wheelchair. LTC was my last hope. I took all my savings and deposited it to ltc-wallet. Now that scammer stole everything I had. I have no means to pay my bills. I don't know how to continue. I even don't have money to buy food!

Please. I know there're good and honest people around here. I was a good worker and I worked half of my life for the well-being of this country. If you hear me, please give me a chance to get out of this unfortunate situation and donate some LTC to:

LYGdrwspUa8zPMBHBvjpb97WiBV1pqyQYC

Thank you and may the God bless your way.

I hope I don't come across as unconsiderate but did anyone else get the feeling after reading this it did not come across as genuine ?


I kept it to myself but definitely. When I read it my first thought was "if the money was that important to you and you were really in this situation, why would you be stupid enough to give it away to someone else?" I have really big doubts anyone would really do something that ridiculous.

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Please, every honest soul, read it.

I'm an unemployed person and I have 90% disability. I can't work for my living because of my disability. I've used to be a trucker before that terrible accident that put me into wheelchair. LTC was my last hope. I took all my savings and deposited it to ltc-wallet. Now that scammer stole everything I had. I have no means to pay my bills. I don't know how to continue. I even don't have money to buy food!

Please. I know there're good and honest people around here. I was a good worker and I worked half of my life for the well-being of this country. If you hear me, please give me a chance to get out of this unfortunate situation and donate some LTC to:

LYGdrwspUa8zPMBHBvjpb97WiBV1pqyQYC

Thank you and may the God bless your way.

I hope I don't come across as unconsiderate but did anyone else get the feeling after reading this it did not come across as genuine ?


I kept it to myself but definitely. When I read it my first thought was "if the money was that important to you and you were really in this situation, why would you be stupid enough to give it away to someone else?" I have really big doubts anyone would really do something that ridiculous.


Yes, to me it seems like a fake story, but there is a slight chance it is true :S
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Please, every honest soul, read it.

I'm an unemployed person and I have 90% disability. I can't work for my living because of my disability. I've used to be a trucker before that terrible accident that put me into wheelchair. LTC was my last hope. I took all my savings and deposited it to ltc-wallet. Now that scammer stole everything I had. I have no means to pay my bills. I don't know how to continue. I even don't have money to buy food!

Please. I know there're good and honest people around here. I was a good worker and I worked half of my life for the well-being of this country. If you hear me, please give me a chance to get out of this unfortunate situation and donate some LTC to:

LYGdrwspUa8zPMBHBvjpb97WiBV1pqyQYC

Thank you and may the God bless your way.

I hope I don't come across as unconsiderate but did anyone else get the feeling after reading this it did not come across as genuine ?


I kept it to myself but definitely. When I read it my first thought was "if the money was that important to you and you were really in this situation, why would you be stupid enough to give it away to someone else?" I have really big doubts anyone would really do something that ridiculous.


Yes, to me it seems like a fake story, but there is a slight chance it is true :S


About the same chance that this thread wasn't started by a scammer.

So much dumb here it scares me.  Like you guys actually gave your litecoins to a random annoymous guy on the internet because he said he'd pay 12% interest...like wtf?
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No, this story isn't fake. I'm honest with you here. The site looked very legitimate for me. I trusted it and put my money there. Now this scammer took everything I had.
Please, I know there're good and honest people here. Be so kind and donate me few LTC. That would be much appreciated.

Please donate to:
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Thank you.
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No, this story isn't fake. I'm honest with you here. The site looked very legitimate for me. I trusted it and put my money there. Now this scammer took everything I had.
Please, I know there're good and honest people here. Be so kind and donate me few LTC. That would be much appreciated.

Please donate to:
LYGdrwspUa8zPMBHBvjpb97WiBV1pqyQYC

Thank you.

Why not post some proof?
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I will also pipe in that many users (myself included) weren't even aware of the interest scam being played down on the website. I never knew nor cared about any interest payments. I just wanted a place to put it without going through the hassle of syncing the whole Litecoin blockchain on my computer. I really wish people would quit waving around that "interest! stupid obvious scam! interest!" banner every time...

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I will also pipe in that many users (myself included) weren't even aware of the interest scam being played down on the website. I never knew nor cared about any interest payments. I just wanted a place to put it without going through the hassle of syncing the whole Litecoin blockchain on my computer. I really wish people would quit waving around that "interest! stupid obvious scam! interest!" banner every time...

I don't think anyone should be blaimed for trusting this site. If all these captains could pop-up before it was appearent it was a scam it would be a lot easier for everyone.
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I will also pipe in that many users (myself included) weren't even aware of the interest scam being played down on the website. I never knew nor cared about any interest payments. I just wanted a place to put it without going through the hassle of syncing the whole Litecoin blockchain on my computer. I really wish people would quit waving around that "interest! stupid obvious scam! interest!" banner every time...

I don't think anyone should be blaimed for trusting this site. If all these captains could pop-up before it was appearent it was a scam it would be a lot easier for everyone.

What is interesting to me is that the owner of the site was very communicative. I had a lot of back and forth messages between me and him, and he was always clear and concise in his answers. Any time I had an issue with the site (even after he already had my money) he went through the time to help me resolve them. Any time I reported an error in the site, he got it fixed pretty fast.

I really don't know where everything went wrong. Maybe it's possible that he realized how much money people were depositing and greed got the best of him (ex. he said "wow, $500k?! There's no way I can return this now!").

I really still hope this is all just a misunderstanding though. Based on reading other information about the site, it has actually had server errors multiple times in the past.

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I studied informationlogistics once and added some of my thoughts to narrow down the suspects a bit to the LTC-Wallet Case Study thread on forum.litecoin.net...

https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,4783.msg35381.html#msg35381

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I studied informationlogistics once and added some of my thoughts to narrow down the suspects a bit to the LTC-Wallet Case Study thread on forum.litecoin.net...

https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,4783.msg35381.html#msg35381

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You brought up how many LTC he has, but who is to say that the numbers we are looking at aren't from depositors' funds? And in the large pools, that could be an exchange or something as well.

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to bad my isp blocks that site   Angry

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I studied informationlogistics once and added some of my thoughts to narrow down the suspects a bit to the LTC-Wallet Case Study thread on forum.litecoin.net...

https://forum.litecoin.net/index.php/topic,4783.msg35381.html#msg35381

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You brought up how many LTC he has, but who is to say that the numbers we are looking at aren't from depositors' funds? And in the large pools, that could be an exchange or something as well.
Indeed, the balance is likely a site "holding pool" for funds tracked by its internal database. Someone could key in that my account now had "100 LTC" instead of just 6 LTC, and I could withdraw 100 LTC from my "wallet" because it's all coming from a common set of accounts. The site probably had code that auto-transferred funds between accounts to balance them into pools, easier to steal and harder to track. I'm pretty sure all the funds in there are from people that are slowly going to try logging in only to realize that their rarely-looked-at "savings account" no longer even exists... :/

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Ouch, this is looking even worse now. Just went to check out their Twitter page again (twitter.com/litecoinwallet) and it was removed sometime in the last day. It has been completely deleted.

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Want to bring your attention to something else in case someone gets the law involved. Here are two things you can follow up on:

Their Google Analytics code: UA-40041908-1
Their Google Recaptcha API ID: 6LcLld8SAAAAAC7T6UPrpT2z039dg27xy3ROW6Nr

I am sure that somewhere they screwed up and forgot to completely conceal their identity, and these two may be where it was. Google should be able to supply law enforcement with all applicable information for those accounts (or that account if they are linked) including the IP's and other pertinent details.

Definitely worth a try.

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Want to bring your attention to something else in case someone gets the law involved. Here are two things you can follow up on:

Their Google Analytics code: UA-40041908-1
Their Google Recaptcha API ID: 6LcLld8SAAAAAC7T6UPrpT2z039dg27xy3ROW6Nr

I am sure that somewhere they screwed up and forgot to completely conceal their identity, and these two may be where it was. Google should be able to supply law enforcement with all applicable information for those accounts (or that account if they are linked) including the IP's and other pertinent details.

Definitely worth a try.

Awesome find. That could be the info Google needs to track him/her/them down. Can anyone confirm that the accounts listed (and archived, in my previous posts) would only be in control of this guy in the Litecoin network? That would assign a hard dollar value on this information and would give the appropriate companies the motivation and rationale to find this information...

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Want to bring your attention to something else in case someone gets the law involved. Here are two things you can follow up on:

Their Google Analytics code: UA-40041908-1
Their Google Recaptcha API ID: 6LcLld8SAAAAAC7T6UPrpT2z039dg27xy3ROW6Nr

I am sure that somewhere they screwed up and forgot to completely conceal their identity, and these two may be where it was. Google should be able to supply law enforcement with all applicable information for those accounts (or that account if they are linked) including the IP's and other pertinent details.

Definitely worth a try.

Awesome find. That could be the info Google needs to track him/her/them down. Can anyone confirm that the accounts listed (and archived, in my previous posts) would only be in control of this guy in the Litecoin network? That would assign a hard dollar value on this information and would give the appropriate companies the motivation and rationale to find this information...

At least with my information, I can confirm that the analytics would be his. I can't fathom why anyone would be using someone else's code on their site since only the owner of the Google account gets the benefits. It'd be like using someone else's advertising blocks on your page, :p.

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Want to bring your attention to something else in case someone gets the law involved. Here are two things you can follow up on:

Their Google Analytics code: UA-40041908-1
Their Google Recaptcha API ID: 6LcLld8SAAAAAC7T6UPrpT2z039dg27xy3ROW6Nr

I am sure that somewhere they screwed up and forgot to completely conceal their identity, and these two may be where it was. Google should be able to supply law enforcement with all applicable information for those accounts (or that account if they are linked) including the IP's and other pertinent details.

Definitely worth a try.

awesome find, yes. it0s hard ever for cyber criminal to hide every every every trace. so if we wind a hole in their strategy, we must go that way to retrieve this SOB.

i think a scam for over 200.000 $ placed in all the world, should be sufficient to make the authorities moving.

but at this point, who of the people being scammed is moving, e.g. from the forum, to contact authorities ? we need to contact first google with these datas?
please clarify the situation, because going on we understand the scam is every day bigger, and the moves to do to catch the SOB are everyday most difficult to follow all. we have to have a strategy defined and all clear for that purpose.


 
 
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Want to bring your attention to something else in case someone gets the law involved. Here are two things you can follow up on:

Their Google Analytics code: UA-40041908-1
Their Google Recaptcha API ID: 6LcLld8SAAAAAC7T6UPrpT2z039dg27xy3ROW6Nr

I am sure that somewhere they screwed up and forgot to completely conceal their identity, and these two may be where it was. Google should be able to supply law enforcement with all applicable information for those accounts (or that account if they are linked) including the IP's and other pertinent details.

Definitely worth a try.

awesome find, yes. it0s hard ever for cyber criminal to hide every every every trace. so if we wind a hole in their strategy, we must go that way to retrieve this SOB.

i think a scam for over 200.000 $ placed in all the world, should be sufficient to make the authorities moving.

but at this point, who of the people being scammed is moving, e.g. from the forum, to contact authorities ? we need to contact first google with these datas?
please clarify the situation, because going on we understand the scam is every day bigger, and the moves to do to catch the SOB are everyday most difficult to follow all. we have to have a strategy defined and all clear for that purpose.

If we contact Google ourselves, we will get nowhere. They can not release data to us; they can only release it to law enforcement, and even then it requires a subpoena. Along with this, law enforcement would not (in most circumstances) be able to release the data to us. We would basically have to trust (and push) them to do their job and handle this.

We really need a single point of contact for this that can compile all the known data and start pushing this forward.

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Ah yes, the "Someone should do something about that!" conundrum.

Remember: you and I are BOTH "someone". There's no central authority here, so it's only up to generic Joes like you and I. It's not up to the forum admins, GoDaddy, Google, etc., to get the ball rolling on this.

/deep breath

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Filling this report form out now. You and I are both "someone", and we're going to do something about this. Smiley

This forum thread will be the single point of contact as far as my report is concerned. Basically, "read from about page 5 onward".

edit: "Thank you for filing a complaint with the Internet Crime Complaint Center (IC3).". Smiley

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so we have to send an email? since online form prompts out an error.

we should use all the same kind of email....

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Ah yes, the "Someone should do something about that!" conundrum.

Remember: you and I are BOTH "someone". There's no central authority here, so it's only up to generic Joes like you and I. It's not up to the forum admins, GoDaddy, Google, etc., to get the ball rolling on this.

/deep breath

Clicky, clicky.
http://www.stopfraud.gov/report.html#computer

Filling this report form out now. You and I are both "someone", and we're going to do something about this. Smiley

This forum thread will be the single point of contact as far as my report is concerned. Basically, "read from about page 5 onward".

Normally I would be all over this, but I am already in the midst of multiple projects and a lawsuit of my own. My time is pretty much filled up to the point where I can not be the person to keep up with making sure everything is going as it should.

I will still do what I can to help, but I can definitely not be the leader in this and we need someone that can lead it, otherwise it's going to be hectic and any law enforcement that may otherwise get involved will become overwhelmed and we'll still get nowhere.

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I feel kinda small-fry only having about $20 in LTC involved here (ugh, I ran the numbers... LTC mining with only 3 older GPUs is just painful.), but I've got all the time in the world and tons of technical expertise to help.

Yes toork, even scamming a dude out of $20, while I look to my side and see others getting scammed for $10,000+ at the same time as I am, I'll help those guys out the best I can to track you down and make you pay. Smiley

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Just wanted to update folks here.  I went ahead and contacted a few firms that specialize in these types of scams.  And, guess what?  They are already aware. Surprise, surprise!  Through my correspondence with them, I have figured out that this would require international jurisdiction.  Since I'm based in the US, this would most likely indicate the fraudsters are not.  Also, since this appears to be a complex case, it will be very expensive to begin legal action (to the tune of six figures).

But, don't give up hope!  It's clear that other victims are on the hunt as well and it's possible that they can't disclose any of their findings due to ongoing investigations.  I totally understand that position and warn others to think about that before posting.  Please continue contacting your local law enforcement agencies and bring some more attention to this scam.  I will continue my search for a more cost effective resolution to this whole mess.
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Just wanted to update folks here.  I went ahead and contacted a few firms that specialize in these types of scams.  And, guess what?  They are already aware. Surprise, surprise!  Through my correspondence with them, I have figured out that this would require international jurisdiction.  Since I'm based in the US, this would most likely indicate the fraudsters are not.  Also, since this appears to be a complex case, it will be very expensive to begin legal action (to the tune of six figures).

But, don't give up hope!  It's clear that other victims are on the hunt as well and it's possible that they can't disclose any of their findings due to ongoing investigations.  I totally understand that position and warn others to think about that before posting.  Please continue contacting your local law enforcement agencies and bring some more attention to this scam.  I will continue my search for a more cost effective resolution to this whole mess.

Oh, and having said all that, I'm open to suggestions on where to go from here, pooling resources, etc.
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Just wanted to update folks here.  I went ahead and contacted a few firms that specialize in these types of scams.  And, guess what?  They are already aware. Surprise, surprise!  Through my correspondence with them, I have figured out that this would require international jurisdiction.  Since I'm based in the US, this would most likely indicate the fraudsters are not.  Also, since this appears to be a complex case, it will be very expensive to begin legal action (to the tune of six figures).

But, don't give up hope!  It's clear that other victims are on the hunt as well and it's possible that they can't disclose any of their findings due to ongoing investigations.  I totally understand that position and warn others to think about that before posting.  Please continue contacting your local law enforcement agencies and bring some more attention to this scam.  I will continue my search for a more cost effective resolution to this whole mess.

Oh, and having said all that, I'm open to suggestions on where to go from here, pooling resources, etc.

It's going to go nowhere unless law enforcement can look into where the owner of the site is from. Without that information, it is impossible to give any advice. Each country is different and each state is different. Sometimes it even varies from city to city within the same state. So until we know where the person we're dealing with is from, there is really nowhere *to* go.

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Hi,

2917.7 LTC is how much I lost ... http://explorer.litecoin.net/address/LZxrB79DMV4vKUWKTDECM5wa8mVM8HWz22

So can I please also be kept updated?

Also, does anyone think that I should maybe wait until LTC hits gox before going to the police - I think they would take a maybe $80,000+ theft much more seriously than an $8,000 theft? I'm from the UK in case that makes a difference.

Also, in case the person is reading this (which you probably are), I hope you know that if you sell the coins and then get caught then you would be liable for the maximum value of the coins between the time of theft and the time of being caught - i.e. if LTC's peaks at $20, then you would legally be liable for $20 per LTC stolen, regardless of the actual price of LTC when you stole them or when you get caught.....   So it's probably a good idea for you to wait until you are 100% sure you aren't going to get caught before selling those coins....

Last thing, on the off chance that you just happen to be a teenage kid or whatever who is now pretty scared.. you can send me my coins back at Li9L7BqVp1hUHRPDNYw6HAUvAuw6Lrh9QC  and I won't be contacting the police.
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Oh, I had some LTC there as well! Not much, but it was all I had (22LTC)  Angry

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so it's over? he take our money and it's safe away??? too bad


 
 
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so it's over? he take our money and it's safe away??? too bad

Unless someone who has more time is able to pursue this on behalf of everyone. If nobody will do it, then yes, it's over.

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so it's over? he take our money and it's safe away??? too bad

Unless someone who has more time is able to pursue this on behalf of everyone. If nobody will do it, then yes, it's over.

I would rip him apart. the asshole. Shit!!!
 everytime I think of this robbery i would kill the toork. It was very painful and expensive lesson of life. Dont let him go. He must be afraid of every second what could happen, in his useless life. Dont let him breathe and enjoy our stolen money.
If only I could torture him to death. bastard. asshole. can you hear me, we all are searching for you you pure toork. we are very close and your days are coming to the end
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so it's over? he take our money and it's safe away??? too bad

Unless someone who has more time is able to pursue this on behalf of everyone. If nobody will do it, then yes, it's over.

I would rip him apart. the asshole. Shit!!!
 everytime I think of this robbery i would kill the toork. It was very painful and expensive lesson of life. Dont let him go. He must be afraid of every second what could happen, in his useless life. Dont let him breathe and enjoy our stolen money.
If only I could torture him to death. bastard. asshole. can you hear me, we all are searching for you you pure toork. we are very close and your days are coming to the end


oooh admin.... another one that is writing same thing i wrote....


 
 
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admin should move this thread to section with fraudsters so that everybody and especially newcomers can learn from this costly experience.
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EARN INTEREST - invest LTC and earn up to 12% interest on your deposited coins.
Yeah, you guys sure fell for that one.

Notice how a really secure web wallet like blockchain.info will email you the private wallet, which allows you to recover your coins.

Another hint was provided by the lack of sufficient replies to these posts:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=176637.msg2255996#msg2255996
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=176637.msg2278797#msg2278797
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=176637.msg2426837#msg2426837
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I knew why is better to install LTC wallet to my laptop rather than believe shits like this. Cheesy 12% interests. omg Cheesy
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I knew why is better to install LTC wallet to my laptop rather than believe shits like this. Cheesy 12% interests. omg Cheesy

They weren't offering interest until later on in the service. Prior to that it was just a "safe online wallet." People who throw around this crap about how you can't believe the interest rates are ignorant. How can people have possibly fallen for an interest rate that never even existed when most people put their money into the service?

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so it's over? he take our money and it's safe away??? too bad

Unless someone who has more time is able to pursue this on behalf of everyone. If nobody will do it, then yes, it's over.

I would rip him apart. the asshole. Shit!!!
 everytime I think of this robbery i would kill the toork. It was very painful and expensive lesson of life. Dont let him go. He must be afraid of every second what could happen, in his useless life. Dont let him breathe and enjoy our stolen money.
If only I could torture him to death. bastard. asshole. can you hear me, we all are searching for you you pure toork. we are very close and your days are coming to the end

you are right. his right punition should be death by torture as like as Law Abiding Citizen film, ripped in 25 parts


 
 
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