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April 16, 2013, 06:50:06 PM
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Im in for 100 parts, when i know whether or not there will be any way to get it pre-assembled, as i have no clue how to do that. anyone know ?

DIY means "Do It Yourself". Pre-assembled means "Someone else do it". This is a DIY thread.


On another note, I notice people buying 500 - 2000 chips, are you really planning to connect 2000 chips yourself? I have a half idea to DIY as well, but the task of actually soldering and whatever else will be involved with this number of tiny chips is daunting.

EDIT: Kudos to OP for both this and helping the other crew keep in stock of chips.
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April 16, 2013, 07:01:10 PM
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You have my deep gratitude as well. I was ready to purchase 10,000 chips but I'm a sissy and need more information than what's offered on their order page before taking that kind of risk and it doesn't look like they plan to hire the staff needed to field questions/concerns any time soon so I will leave this initial era to the brave such as yourself.

Your offer will allow me to continue pursing my project while waiting to see how these initial bulk orders pan out. Like many, I dream on contributing to the widespread distribution of ASIC miners to avoid consolidation and keep bitcoins in the hands of the "little guy". It's awesome to see the community stepping up like this to help make it happen. Again you are doing a big service to the mining community, many many thanks. My payment has been sent Cheesy
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April 16, 2013, 07:41:48 PM
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tigerfree; 10; 0.86; i sent from bitstamp
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April 16, 2013, 07:52:59 PM
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tigerfree; 10; 0.86; i sent from bitstamp


Aaargh! Don't do that!

You should send from an address you control, i.e. you have the private key of. Otherwise, if another one claimed he was sending this 0.86BTC, how do you prove it was you?

Now, I take this as confirmed. Please provide a return address, just in case.

Everyone else, please send from your own wallet and from your own address.


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April 16, 2013, 08:13:24 PM
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i me very sorry i didn't mean it my return address 1Kjvxd9CbnYbigcC13gS5VAd2asNcdVSyH
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April 16, 2013, 08:19:17 PM
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Confirmed orders:

Code:
Chips     BTC    Address
   30    2.58    1B9WDgtyDmqrqyMFp63mqTiiGsat5CQLyM
 2000  172.00    13BQocSpK6Ny8xubRGSXvdw5r4aTVBkrNp
  100    8.60    15BEMHdT27kP2K6Yca2rEGwChRuzuHub8s
   10    0.86    1G88KbjZi39ZA3BMXDwfmzidVDf2y2BKSp
   10    0.86    1Pv44QYXwC3FMiNZgXcpZRKyuXXueyVRrd
  390   33.54    1DDBpNCBHARLzk8wDpB3oHozm5aovxeCk6
   10    0.86    1Kjvxd9CbnYbigcC13gS5VAd2asNcdVSyH

Note: 43 sent back to 15AkZM1u2jXhetHEKLnQ5ScM6bvjGePYHd, since buyer will order assembled boards.


Thanks for your kind words and your support. That's all for today from me, see you tomorrow.

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April 16, 2013, 08:27:36 PM
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zefir... did you get the first order of the chips or one of the first orders or doesnt it matter because all orders of 10k chips are created at the same time?

Then... the developers will have enough chips to create the miner, but later on they want to create and sell miners too, that means they need a good chunk of chips for this. Otherwise a new order has to be made that takes another 10 weeks.
So are enough chips kept back for this too?

I really would like to buy chips alone but at the moment im a bit unsure if i will be able to create an actual miner with it. I mean the design isnt ready so i dont know what is needed for it. I know how to use a soldering bolt and probably can put chips into a pcb. If thats all needed, besides buying all the needed parts then im fine. If someone could answer the question, regarding how hard it will be to create a miner, with "you can do it" i will buy some chips tomorrow.

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April 16, 2013, 09:02:32 PM
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zefir... did you get the first order of the chips or one of the first orders or doesnt it matter because all orders of 10k chips are created at the same time?

Then... the developers will have enough chips to create the miner, but later on they want to create and sell miners too, that means they need a good chunk of chips for this. Otherwise a new order has to be made that takes another 10 weeks.
So are enough chips kept back for this too?

I really would like to buy chips alone but at the moment im a bit unsure if i will be able to create an actual miner with it. I mean the design isnt ready so i dont know what is needed for it. I know how to use a soldering bolt and probably can put chips into a pcb. If thats all needed, besides buying all the needed parts then im fine. If someone could answer the question, regarding how hard it will be to create a miner, with "you can do it" i will buy some chips tomorrow.

Read https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=161715.0

If it seems like something that makes sense to you, then gung ho. If it seems like gobbilty gook, you probably don't want to mess with it, and buy pre-assembled ones instead.
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April 16, 2013, 10:20:50 PM
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bcpokey... I know that thread from the start and i think its a good idea... the only thing is... if you give the a plan, tell me the parts i need and how to connect it i most probably can do it. But if some special machines are involved to create the miner thats something i dont know if i could create it at the end. And at this point im stuck because the DIY-Miner-Project isnt developed yet. So will it be easy enough for me at the end or will i have asics laying around because i dont have access to some special utility...

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April 16, 2013, 10:38:31 PM
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Zefir. Just to be clear. Are you reselling chips at the same cost you purchased them? Ifso, what is your motivation to buy 10,000 chips and distribute them at the same price (no profit)?
You think I should have asked for more than 9.9% as risk-compensation? I wish I did, but I offered to support the upcoming open source projects with what I have and that is it. Also please note that on top of this surplus buyers will be charged the effective fiat expenses for taxes, shipping and handling.

Thanks for clearing that up for me. I wasn't certain on interpreting surplus as the mark-up. Sorry, not a business major Smiley
But to answer your question, I think that is a reasonable mark-up and to charge for shipping etc...
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April 16, 2013, 11:27:50 PM
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I’m calling dibs on 50 if the deal works out.  Cheesy
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April 17, 2013, 01:02:08 AM
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PM sent. Thank you zefir for organizing this!

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April 17, 2013, 01:33:05 AM
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PM and coin sent. Thank you for organizing!
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April 17, 2013, 02:08:02 AM
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Any reports on bad chip or failure rate? If we order 10 are we likely to receive a bad one? Are they fully tested at the factory for function? I'm not saying this is going to be a big problem but some chips likely will be duds and how will this be handled, or what rates should be calculated into risk projections.

BTW I think I want 20 - will order soon.

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April 17, 2013, 02:26:05 AM
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Any reports on bad chip or failure rate? If we order 10 are we likely to receive a bad one? Are they fully tested at the factory for function? I'm not saying this is going to be a big problem but some chips likely will be duds and how will this be handled, or what rates should be calculated into risk projections.

BTW I think I want 20 - will order soon.


the chips being sold are packaged and tested.

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April 17, 2013, 02:27:36 AM
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would be good if more members know how to assemble the chips to the pcb.... and where to get the pcb board?
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April 17, 2013, 03:15:06 AM
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would be good if more members know how to assemble the chips to the pcb.... and where to get the pcb board?
Once a pcb design is made public I think it'll be quite easy to get them made. There's tons of places online. If no one puts a design out there and I have to do my own then I'll post mine but I'm pretty slow at this.

QFN chips are not hard to solder with only a SMD heat gun. I've done that by hand easily. The better way is to use a toaster oven or frying pan, but by hand works too. I've done 208 pin TQFP as well and would prefer it but QFN is very doable by hand. You just use flux, wet the pads with an iron, place and run a hot gun air along them. TQFP makes a small cracking sound which is cool.

PM sent ordered 20 pcs.

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April 17, 2013, 05:06:47 AM
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IMHO, this is the best way to do a group buy, have someone with the money and reputation front the cost and then resell...

Please note, this is entirely based on reputation, you are taking *some* risk. Be sure if you do this or a group buy you do your due diligence and research someone's OTC rating and reputation independently.

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April 17, 2013, 05:29:17 AM
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So minimum order is 10 chips, what is the expected hash rate of 10 chips?

From what I've read, each Avalon has 240 chips. So these 240 chips are good for 60 GH's? Is it safe to assume each batch of 10 chips is good for 1/24 th of 60 GH's?

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April 17, 2013, 05:33:12 AM
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PM sent Smiley
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