[Group Buy#1] Avalon ASICs CHIPS! Using JohnK as escrow! FINISHED!

[ecliptic]

572 of those chips are mine

See below, copied verbatim from an old PM, minus ragingazn's name, John K can confirm. 

Not that it matters, those posts, TXID, confirm i bought 572 chips in total, 320 from dserrano5 and 252 from atcsecure

Hi John

I was just looking over the spreadsheet for the group batch #1 buy ( https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiYcEqkgyjc_dGU0VzhHRGpOOUxudWkxdWpDN3RmbFE#gid=0 ) and i saw that the two people i bought chips from in this batch (dserrano5 and atcsecure) were marked in red and I wasn't listed, so i wanted to make sure that gets cleared up

I've been in contact with <name removed> (ragingazn628) about these chips and the design process/etc for months so he is well aware that I bought out the 320+252=572 chips from dserrano5 and atcsecure.

See below for a snippet from an email conversation with him, has the TXID and posts that confirm this

Here are the links for the confirmation of the chips i bought

320 chips from dserrano5 - TXID -- fc53e0de8b751a02d0a0c38277dbda45bb1294e435823847d41180b6370a1544

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.msg2095196#msg2095196
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.msg2095566#msg2095566

252 chips from atcsecure - TXID -- b68098d0d438c68f9334685da8419e2c8aeae6de2a975b43caf8ea2f1f2ed5ad

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177994.msg2006801#msg2006801
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=192491.msg2006359#msg2006359

For a total of 572 from batch #1

[wrenchmonkey]

I'd be willing to do it as well for a very small fee (maybe 0.1% plus tips) I can verify with john.

I think we should probably wait for John to update anyway.

additionally, I don't think it's too much of a stretch to ask Ragingazn should cover the 1.5% from the escrow and return his handling fees so people get what they put in.

I don't think there's any question that Raginazn has forfeit his fees entirely by going AWOL. Any fees paid to whoever tracks the refunds should come from the TOTAL of the refund amount. Let John K. keep his escrow fees, let the person sorting through Ragin's absolute mess of a spreadsheets/lack thereof take whatever the spreadsheet maker's cut as a % of the total refunds, and let Ragin have absolutely nothing but the public scorn he has so overwhelmingly earned.

Maybe he and Yifu can get together and talk about their emotional problems (Chi/blues)... 

[bigbeninlondon]

I have taken the liberty of setting up a Google form to collect all this information to hopefully facilitate a seamless refund (and take as much workload off John as possible).

I am using this as the frontend for a spreadsheet to track refunds and transfers which will ultimately be used to generate a "sendmany" transaction that John should be able to execute in one command with bitcoind. We will of course check, double, and triple check the transaction when it comes to that point (or leave it to him if he chooses to go a different route) but I'm just trying to put some organization to this chaos in the interest of just putting this all behind us. (I should note that we aren't even sure we'll get a refund so all this may be for naught; but it's better than sitting on our hands).

I apologize to those who have already submitted this information in the thread but as you can imagine, it is pretty impossible to accurately track this stuff on more than 80 pages of forum posts (as well as use this information in a manner to streamline refunds). So please use this link for your refund / transfer information.

I realize that anonymity is of concern, so all fields are optional. It will of course degrade the usefulness of the spreadsheet if you omit fields, but it is ultimately up to you.

In the interest of full disclosure, I should mention that I will of course be sharing the information collected with John K at a minumum. Additionally, BigBenInLondon and / or ryepdx may be helping with the spreadsheet construction (though I think I have it mostly under control). There are some oddities with the amounts (and usernames) that will need to be hashed out; and I may need to enlist the help of one or both of them since I do have a life outside this forum.

Here is the form for refund / chip transfer tracking:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Db9Xx8NYvjnq-Pm7MmuVgWauTP1qSaFRyemI_sa5DkA/viewform

Everyone please take a minute to fill out redphlegm's form and check my spreadsheet to make sure your chip count is accurate.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE#gid=1

If redphlegm's form matches the spreadsheet and there is no contention, we should have no problem issuing refunds.

[Cray-1]

I did not sell any chips (ordered 64.10 chips, 5.16btc) my refund address is:
 
1QG2H6u9KvjyrgSpEB8sAQH2qzjUPDGmYp

Thanks

[Vycid]

I have taken the liberty of setting up a Google form to collect all this information to hopefully facilitate a seamless refund (and take as much workload off John as possible).

I am using this as the frontend for a spreadsheet to track refunds and transfers which will ultimately be used to generate a "sendmany" transaction that John should be able to execute in one command with bitcoind. We will of course check, double, and triple check the transaction when it comes to that point (or leave it to him if he chooses to go a different route) but I'm just trying to put some organization to this chaos in the interest of just putting this all behind us. (I should note that we aren't even sure we'll get a refund so all this may be for naught; but it's better than sitting on our hands).

I apologize to those who have already submitted this information in the thread but as you can imagine, it is pretty impossible to accurately track this stuff on more than 80 pages of forum posts (as well as use this information in a manner to streamline refunds). So please use this link for your refund / transfer information.

I realize that anonymity is of concern, so all fields are optional. It will of course degrade the usefulness of the spreadsheet if you omit fields, but it is ultimately up to you.

In the interest of full disclosure, I should mention that I will of course be sharing the information collected with John K at a minumum. Additionally, BigBenInLondon and / or ryepdx may be helping with the spreadsheet construction (though I think I have it mostly under control). There are some oddities with the amounts (and usernames) that will need to be hashed out; and I may need to enlist the help of one or both of them since I do have a life outside this forum.

Here is the form for refund / chip transfer tracking:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Db9Xx8NYvjnq-Pm7MmuVgWauTP1qSaFRyemI_sa5DkA/viewform

Everyone please take a minute to fill out redphlegm's form and check my spreadsheet to make sure your chip count is accurate.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE#gid=1

If redphlegm's form matches the spreadsheet and there is no contention, we should have no problem issuing refunds.

What stops a scammer from filling out this form, listing an accurate amount of chips for someone ELSE, and putting THEIR refund address?

Please think this through guys...

[nabworth]

I did not sell any of my chips
2.59 btc for 32 chips

my return address is :
15BiqAD34pbDu6hpZyEqdddgttK96rpHh7

[CoinHoarder]

I filled out the form, hopefully we can get everything figured out.. what a cluster f*ck.

[bigbeninlondon]

What stops a scammer from filling out this form, listing an accurate amount of chips for someone ELSE, and putting THEIR refund address?

Please think this through guys...

Once refunds become available John K will sort that out, I assume.  It might be better to post a signed message with the transaction id you used to pay originally.  The form and spreadsheet aren't binding.  We just want to make sure we have an accurate chip count at the moment, and accurately reflect all trades.

[redphlegm]

I have taken the liberty of setting up a Google form to collect all this information to hopefully facilitate a seamless refund (and take as much workload off John as possible).

I am using this as the frontend for a spreadsheet to track refunds and transfers which will ultimately be used to generate a "sendmany" transaction that John should be able to execute in one command with bitcoind. We will of course check, double, and triple check the transaction when it comes to that point (or leave it to him if he chooses to go a different route) but I'm just trying to put some organization to this chaos in the interest of just putting this all behind us. (I should note that we aren't even sure we'll get a refund so all this may be for naught; but it's better than sitting on our hands).

I apologize to those who have already submitted this information in the thread but as you can imagine, it is pretty impossible to accurately track this stuff on more than 80 pages of forum posts (as well as use this information in a manner to streamline refunds). So please use this link for your refund / transfer information.

I realize that anonymity is of concern, so all fields are optional. It will of course degrade the usefulness of the spreadsheet if you omit fields, but it is ultimately up to you.

In the interest of full disclosure, I should mention that I will of course be sharing the information collected with John K at a minumum. Additionally, BigBenInLondon and / or ryepdx may be helping with the spreadsheet construction (though I think I have it mostly under control). There are some oddities with the amounts (and usernames) that will need to be hashed out; and I may need to enlist the help of one or both of them since I do have a life outside this forum.

Here is the form for refund / chip transfer tracking:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/1Db9Xx8NYvjnq-Pm7MmuVgWauTP1qSaFRyemI_sa5DkA/viewform

Everyone please take a minute to fill out redphlegm's form and check my spreadsheet to make sure your chip count is accurate.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ApT7WUJuJCwMdEhFX2UxbF9Nd0xydmhnUUJiZVBLVlE#gid=1

If redphlegm's form matches the spreadsheet and there is no contention, we should have no problem issuing refunds.

What stops a scammer from filling out this form, listing an accurate amount of chips for someone ELSE, and putting THEIR refund address?

Please think this through guys...

I already thought of this and it will be reconciled.

[erschiessen]

My payment was from a wallet over which I no longer have control.
I do state, however, that I have retained full rights over my order, having never sold them.

[redphlegm]

My payment was from a wallet over which I no longer have control.
I do state, however, that I have retained full rights over my order, having never sold them.

This is exactly why I asked for the addresses. The next step would be to verify the addresses / identities of the people.

[alle.sello]

The Big Questions is JahnK get refund from Avalon or not YET !

[bigbeninlondon]

Why don't we start a thread where a user signs a message using their return address.  The message would contain the original tx id or public link to the sale and the number of chips.  This should be easily verified.

[vedmaka]

So, what is happening now there?

Looks like we should get refund?
I have filled form:
25.77 chips, 2.09528002 BTC, address: 1PW9fvHQdUqwSb8DMkpDFCwnGjCJp6ZWX1

[BitHav]

I did not sell any chips I paid BTC3 for 37 chips (37.09 in the form) ,  my refund address is:

1NhSSrRW5Kqzki6TC2HVvHviEtQdxEBTeB

[zamazama]

I see my purchased chips are on the spreadsheet .. thanks 

[bigbeninlondon]

I see my purchased chips are on the spreadsheet .. thanks 

I tried to get you all.

Any appreciation would be more than welcome in the form of a tip.   See my signature.

[wrenchmonkey]

JohnK, can you follow up please? It would be nice to at least get confirmation that the refund was processed...

[freeworm]

JohnK, can you follow up please? It would be nice to at least get confirmation that the refund was processed...

No, it's not
https://blockchain.info/address/1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL

Avalon's  transaction records
https://blockchain.info/address/1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN

It show that one of JohnK's refunds has been processed
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ragingazn
1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL   - NOT YET

bizwoojune8
1LpJrtx1H7ca1fFmQ4jDEdKKUZr1us2byd  - NOT YET

jimmy2011 (orders 10909,10517)

1BaZbQxsXSrDHHZ8BpshsAhbYLaDS1eahW  - REFUNDED
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[wrenchmonkey]

JohnK, can you follow up please? It would be nice to at least get confirmation that the refund was processed...

No, it's not
https://blockchain.info/address/1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL

Avalon's  transaction records
https://blockchain.info/address/1JrwWrt3TYUzMYFEBLX5hTo1zFsEY6tWZN

It show that one of JohnK's refunds has been processed
------------------------------------------------------
ragingazn
1GxGpQrAS345PvYJaW4YANFiJQuRurLVjL   - NOT YET

bizwoojune8
1LpJrtx1H7ca1fFmQ4jDEdKKUZr1us2byd  - NOT YET

jimmy2011 (orders 10909,10517)

1BaZbQxsXSrDHHZ8BpshsAhbYLaDS1eahW  - REFUNDED
-------------------------------------------------------

Well, this is frustrating, to say the least. I wonder what the fuck JohnK thinks his escrow services are supposed to be for. We paid him to deal with this shit in the event things went south. That's the WHOLE REASON you use Escrow.

Honestly, what does he think his services are for? This shit should have been resolved weeks ago...  Nice one, JohnK. It's sounding like Ragin just got 10,000 free chips to use to cheer himself up out of his bummed out state.  THANKS FOR NOTHING!