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January 06, 2015, 10:06:45 AM

1/4 14h the last big movement occurred.  some mop-up ensued until 1/5 08h, after which it looks like people were sending millibits in order to mark the coins.

Funny, I had mistakenly assumed that the hoard would be immediately laundered.  WTF are they thinking?

It would be risky to move those coins now, since the transaction requests could be traced back to the thief.  They are inaccessible there, so why move them?

Tumbling would probably mix them with coins that are just as dirty.  Every output of a tumbler is suspect of being a criminal, and its movements and tx requests will probably be tracked by police agencies around the world.
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January 06, 2015, 10:07:27 AM

you guys lose money first on mt.gox, than you lose money second time on stamp, how many more times you need to lose money to learn that online exchanges are scam to take out your money? you can quote me on next exchange scam.

Is this turd lambie or a new breed of turds?
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January 06, 2015, 10:09:49 AM

guess what, a ton of people were selling coins on loan on Bitswamp (that is how they manipulated the price so low over the last 6 months) ... and now bitswamp has conveniently 'lost' coins ... i.e. the swamp is net short of coins.

go figure, it is not rocket science, someone has been selling non-existent coins and the swamp administered it. Good luck to anybody willing to deal with the swamp, you'll need it.

I never had much love for Bitstump after they told people "You remember those funds you sent us?  We're going to need an identity theft kit from you if you want them back."  IIRC, even Gox gave people fair warning.  I was all done with exchanges before Bitstump came on-line so I was only watching from the sidelines.

no they didn't give fair warning. At least not in my case. Out of nowhere KYC stuff was required to pull my coins (early 2013). Thanks god I pulled out in disgust at that point.
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January 06, 2015, 10:10:13 AM

This is our final warning to create a new model for exchanges.
distributed models like https://bitsquare.io/ could work well.
Hopefully http://www.coinffeine.com/ turns out well...
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January 06, 2015, 10:15:26 AM

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Although I wish loss on noone, there would be something delicious about a certain bear troll with >5000 posts bashing btc finally buying back in at the exact moment bitstamp goes dark Wink
That would be very ironic.


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January 06, 2015, 10:23:14 AM

This is our final warning to create a new model for exchanges.
distributed models like https://bitsquare.io/ could work well.
Hopefully http://www.coinffeine.com/ turns out well...
That 'Holy Grail' project never came to fruition, but Coinffeine is close.
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January 06, 2015, 10:27:25 AM

Quote from: Muttonbchop
I see he's still making Schadenfreude cards for Hallmark.
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January 06, 2015, 10:28:43 AM

So is there a rational explanation for what's happened here?

1. 19k coins have been stolen from stamp (how?) and were sold forcing the market to unprecedented lows.
2. Stamp has to buy these coins back.
3. Stamp is pulling a potential gox and is insolvent?

What's going on?
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January 06, 2015, 10:29:10 AM

LMAO: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4FAds5Mz53w
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January 06, 2015, 10:31:12 AM

So is there a rational explanation for what's happened here?

1. 19k coins have been stolen from stamp (how?) and were sold forcing the market to unprecedented lows.
2. Stamp has to buy these coins back.
3. Stamp is pulling a potential gox and is insolvent?

What's going on?
I think this was a timed incident to make Bitcoin look bad for World of Bitcoin. Stamp is very unlikely culpable.
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January 06, 2015, 10:35:34 AM

So is there a rational explanation for what's happened here?

1. 19k coins have been stolen from stamp (how?) and were sold forcing the market to unprecedented lows.
2. Stamp has to buy these coins back.
3. Stamp is pulling a potential gox and is insolvent?

What's going on?


1. Hacker just waited for volatility and volume, so the crash was a great opportunity. He didn't sold anything.
2. If Bitstamp has some reserves in BTC, they don't have to buy back anything
3. The case may appear similar to Gox for many of you but it's similar to Bitcoin-central too (which finished well : they were hacked, said they would cover everyone losses, did it, and let everyone withdraw their balances).
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January 06, 2015, 10:35:59 AM

I don't think the stamp thing will make much of an impact on the price. They handled it in a professional manner so far and the loss is manageable. After Gox nobody is suprised that this things could happen.
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January 06, 2015, 10:37:26 AM

Litecoin to Bitstamp?  Shocked
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January 06, 2015, 10:37:34 AM

So is there a rational explanation for what's happened here?

1. 19k coins have been stolen from stamp (how?) and were sold forcing the market to unprecedented lows.
2. Stamp has to buy these coins back.
3. Stamp is pulling a potential gox and is insolvent?

What's going on?
I think this was a timed incident to make Bitcoin look bad for World of Bitcoin. Stamp is very unlikely culpable.

Cut off the head and the body will die. It is not unimaginable that Kreml or Berlin had something to do with this. But I fear it's a couple of geeks in Bratislava or Sofia who now can retire at the age of 33.
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January 06, 2015, 10:40:48 AM

I don't think the stamp thing will make much of an impact on the price. They handled it in a professional manner so far and the loss is manageable. After Gox nobody is suprised that this things could happen.

Banks have security breaches regularly. I hope stamp learns from this, but they are still probably the most competent in the field.
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January 06, 2015, 10:41:27 AM

If I were in Vegas, I'd be wearing a honey badger shirt.
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January 06, 2015, 10:59:57 AM


Explanation
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January 06, 2015, 11:27:21 AM

Come on BartChuddy, do the work you know u gotta do.
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January 06, 2015, 11:37:27 AM

So is there a rational explanation for what's happened here?

1. 19k coins have been stolen from stamp (how?) and were sold forcing the market to unprecedented lows.
2. Stamp has to buy these coins back.
3. Stamp is pulling a potential gox and is insolvent?

What's going on?




what is this bullshit?



nothing is going on. you bulltards had an opportunity to consolidate your lines, transfer cash to buy super cheap coins while stamp is down and all I am seeing are some 4 k coins to 250 $ on bitfinex and a bot that is dumping in 0.8 chunks.
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January 06, 2015, 11:46:32 AM

if bitstamp has to buy 18k coins to cover the hack, that would be quite bullish Smiley
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