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Question: Sept. 21 Closing Price:
$0 - 3 (3.4%)
<$8,000 - 4 (4.6%)
$8,000-$8,500 - 1 (1.1%)
$8,500-$9,000 - 1 (1.1%)
$9,000-$9,500 - 4 (4.6%)
$9,500-$10,000 - 6 (6.9%)
$10,000-$10,500 - 16 (18.4%)
$10,500-$11,000 - 18 (20.7%)
$11,000-$11,500 - 17 (19.5%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 5 (5.7%)
>$12,000 - 7 (8%)
>$20,000 - 5 (5.7%)
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April 02, 2015, 05:46:54 PM

How come that you bitcoiners think that in every crypto technology the fucking token is the main point?
XRP is just a token that is not even necessary for the ripple protocol to work (it's an addition as a bridge and as a spam mechanism, but not really necessary), its price could be at a fraction of a penny and nobody would even need to touch it.

The ripple protocol is a very promising technology and still is, same goes with Eris Industries or Ethereum and others.

Stop focusing on the friggin' "coins". It's very probable that they won't even be a part of the future of crypto (where distibuted ledgers/databases are the real useful innovation).




Well, there are like 32 billion coins going on 100 billion which has to be taken into consideration when markets try to price this thing. That´s why they´re called markets I guess.
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April 02, 2015, 05:51:16 PM

Shorts at 24k..

Tarmi about to cry again Smiley

And Fresh money is buying, not leveraged loans, its time to become Bull  Cheesy




How do you know about Fresh money?

Because the amount of USD swaps hasn't gone up appreciably, meaning those coins were probably not bought with leverage.

A highly leveraged exchange provides extreme liquidity for buyers  (also sellers) not using leverage.  It seems that someone is taking advantage of this high leverage and buying coins with very little slippage
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April 02, 2015, 05:51:38 PM

Shorts at 24k..

Tarmi about to cry again Smiley

And Fresh money is buying, not leveraged loans, its time to become Bull  Cheesy




How do you know about Fresh money?

Because the amount of USD swaps hasn't gone up appreciably, meaning those coins were probably not bought with leverage.



good.

bulls finally sending some real cash to exchanges to take over those expansive leverage long positions means we are squeezing them.
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April 02, 2015, 05:52:35 PM

How come that you bitcoiners think that in every crypto technology the fucking token is the main point?
XRP is just a token that is not even necessary for the ripple protocol to work (it's an addition as a bridge and as a spam mechanism, but not really necessary), its price could be at a fraction of a penny and nobody would even need to touch it.

The ripple protocol is a very promising technology and still is, same goes with Eris Industries or Ethereum and others.

Stop focusing on the friggin' "coins". It's very probable that they won't even be a part of the future of crypto (where distibuted ledgers/databases are the real useful innovation).




Well, there are like 32 billion coins going on 100 billion which has to be taken into consideration when markets try to price this thing. That´s why they´re called markets I guess.
The ripple network is a distributed ledger system to move fiat currencies instantly, globally, for cheap, kinda like bitcoin but without the drama, the volatiliy, the 0 consumer protection irreversibility, the POW, etc.
The cryptocurrency XRP is just a spam mechanism and an addition as a bridge currency, supposedly (but that is not necessary, the USD could play that role in the network eventually for example), anybody wanting to use the ripple network can give 0 fucks about XRP and its price.

Stop. Focusing. On. The. Friggin. Tokens.
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April 02, 2015, 05:54:27 PM

Next stop 260?

would be nice
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April 02, 2015, 05:56:08 PM

Shorts at 24k..

Tarmi about to cry again Smiley

And Fresh money is buying, not leveraged loans, its time to become Bull  Cheesy




How do you know about Fresh money?

Because the amount of USD swaps hasn't gone up appreciably, meaning those coins were probably not bought with leverage.



good.

bulls finally sending some real cash to exchanges to take over those expansive leverage long positions means we are squeezing them.

Your logic here doesn't make sense. If this pattern continues the shorts will actually get squeezed, the longs will not unless we pierce 235 (or lower)
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April 02, 2015, 05:58:44 PM

Shorts at 24k..

Tarmi about to cry again Smiley

And Fresh money is buying, not leveraged loans, its time to become Bull  Cheesy




How do you know about Fresh money?

Because the amount of USD swaps hasn't gone up appreciably, meaning those coins were probably not bought with leverage.



good.

bulls finally sending some real cash to exchanges to take over those expansive leverage long positions means we are squeezing them.

Your logic here doesn't make sense. If this pattern continues the shorts will actually get squeezed, the longs will not unless we pierce 235 (or lower)


nope. many longs are underwater already.

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April 02, 2015, 06:02:04 PM

How come that you bitcoiners think that in every crypto technology the fucking token is the main point?
XRP is just a token that is not even necessary for the ripple protocol to work (it's an addition as a bridge and as a spam mechanism, but not really necessary), its price could be at a fraction of a penny and nobody would even need to touch it.

The ripple protocol is a very promising technology and still is, same goes with Eris Industries or Ethereum and others.

Stop focusing on the friggin' "coins". It's very probable that they won't even be a part of the future of crypto (where distibuted ledgers/databases are the real useful innovation).




Well, there are like 32 billion coins going on 100 billion which has to be taken into consideration when markets try to price this thing. That´s why they´re called markets I guess.
The ripple network is a distributed ledger system to move fiat currencies instantly, globally, for cheap, kinda like bitcoin but without the drama, the volatiliy, the 0 consumer protection irreversibility, the POW, etc.
The cryptocurrency XRP is just a spam mechanism and an addition as a bridge currency, supposedly (but that is not necessary, the USD could play that role in the network eventually for example), anybody wanting to use the ripple network can give 0 fucks about XRP and its price.

Stop. Focusing. On. The. Friggin. Tokens.

Take your ripple spam elsewhere.
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April 02, 2015, 06:04:37 PM

How come that you bitcoiners think that in every crypto technology the fucking token is the main point?
XRP is just a token that is not even necessary for the ripple protocol to work (it's an addition as a bridge and as a spam mechanism, but not really necessary), its price could be at a fraction of a penny and nobody would even need to touch it.

The ripple protocol is a very promising technology and still is, same goes with Eris Industries or Ethereum and others.

Stop focusing on the friggin' "coins". It's very probable that they won't even be a part of the future of crypto (where distibuted ledgers/databases are the real useful innovation).




Well, there are like 32 billion coins going on 100 billion which has to be taken into consideration when markets try to price this thing. That´s why they´re called markets I guess.
The ripple network is a distributed ledger system to move fiat currencies instantly, globally, for cheap, kinda like bitcoin but without the drama, the volatiliy, the 0 consumer protection irreversibility, the POW, etc.
The cryptocurrency XRP is just a spam mechanism and an addition as a bridge currency, supposedly (but that is not necessary, the USD could play that role in the network eventually for example), anybody wanting to use the ripple network can give 0 fucks about XRP and its price.

Stop. Focusing. On. The. Friggin. Tokens.

Well, what the hell do they need a 100 billion coins for then ? Why water the price down to nothing ?

I think it borders on the miraculous that it presently sells for almost one cent US given this gigantic overhang.
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April 02, 2015, 06:06:02 PM

Shorts at 24k..

Tarmi about to cry again Smiley

And Fresh money is buying, not leveraged loans, its time to become Bull  Cheesy




How do you know about Fresh money?

Because the amount of USD swaps hasn't gone up appreciably, meaning those coins were probably not bought with leverage.



good.

bulls finally sending some real cash to exchanges to take over those expansive leverage long positions means we are squeezing them.

Your logic here doesn't make sense. If this pattern continues the shorts will actually get squeezed, the longs will not unless we pierce 235 (or lower)


nope. many longs are underwater already.



Why are you not talking about the 10,000 shorts opened up in last two weeks?!
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April 02, 2015, 06:06:56 PM

How come that you bitcoiners think that in every crypto technology the fucking token is the main point?
XRP is just a token that is not even necessary for the ripple protocol to work (it's an addition as a bridge and as a spam mechanism, but not really necessary), its price could be at a fraction of a penny and nobody would even need to touch it.

The ripple protocol is a very promising technology and still is, same goes with Eris Industries or Ethereum and others.

Stop focusing on the friggin' "coins". It's very probable that they won't even be a part of the future of crypto (where distibuted ledgers/databases are the real useful innovation).




Well, there are like 32 billion coins going on 100 billion which has to be taken into consideration when markets try to price this thing. That´s why they´re called markets I guess.
The ripple network is a distributed ledger system to move fiat currencies instantly, globally, for cheap, kinda like bitcoin but without the drama, the volatiliy, the 0 consumer protection irreversibility, the POW, etc.
The cryptocurrency XRP is just a spam mechanism and an addition as a bridge currency, supposedly (but that is not necessary, the USD could play that role in the network eventually for example), anybody wanting to use the ripple network can give 0 fucks about XRP and its price.

Stop. Focusing. On. The. Friggin. Tokens.

Take your ripple spam elsewhere.
Why are you so close minded?

I thought libertarians liked innovation/competition.

I'm not promoting anything, I just think that new technologies in crypto are promising and I'm interested to follow their developments.
I don't care about no altcoins/shitcoins, those are P&D  Smiley
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April 02, 2015, 06:08:33 PM

well hello my friends.

my short from 255 is turning very profitable, again.

thank you bulls.

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Did you catch that profit?
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well hello my friends.

my short from 255 is turning very profitable, again.

thank you bulls.

You've not got much time I'm afraid  Undecided

Did you catch that profit?


some, just to open another position now. Cheesy

btw I still have some shorts open from 295.
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April 02, 2015, 06:09:41 PM

Watch $255, if that breaks with decent volume, short term little bull run.

I don't think it is ready for a big move either up or down yet to exit the current midrange (235-255), but we'll see.
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April 02, 2015, 06:12:00 PM

How come that you bitcoiners think that in every crypto technology the fucking token is the main point?
XRP is just a token that is not even necessary for the ripple protocol to work (it's an addition as a bridge and as a spam mechanism, but not really necessary), its price could be at a fraction of a penny and nobody would even need to touch it.

The ripple protocol is a very promising technology and still is, same goes with Eris Industries or Ethereum and others.

Stop focusing on the friggin' "coins". It's very probable that they won't even be a part of the future of crypto (where distibuted ledgers/databases are the real useful innovation).




Well, there are like 32 billion coins going on 100 billion which has to be taken into consideration when markets try to price this thing. That´s why they´re called markets I guess.
The ripple network is a distributed ledger system to move fiat currencies instantly, globally, for cheap, kinda like bitcoin but without the drama, the volatiliy, the 0 consumer protection irreversibility, the POW, etc.
The cryptocurrency XRP is just a spam mechanism and an addition as a bridge currency, supposedly (but that is not necessary, the USD could play that role in the network eventually for example), anybody wanting to use the ripple network can give 0 fucks about XRP and its price.

Stop. Focusing. On. The. Friggin. Tokens.

Let's break down each claim:

- "distributed ledger system to move fiat currencies instantly": sort of true, although it's not "distributed" right now and it's not clear that the consensus mechanism will actually work if it's actually distributed

- "for cheap": true

- "kinda like bitcoin but without the drama": I'm not sure how pushing Jed out of the company w/ the Wells Fargo situation, and his Yoko Ono-type situation isn't drama

- "the volatiliy" [sic] false

- "the 0 consumer protection irreversibility" false

- "the POW" true

- "The cryptocurrency XRP is just a spam mechanism and an addition as a bridge currency, supposedly (but that is not necessary, the USD could play that role in the network eventually for example)..." true

- "...anybody wanting to use the ripple network can give 0 fucks about XRP and its price." false, because Ripple Labs runs 100% of the basic infrastructure, and their main business model concerns XRP appreciating in price.

In conclusion fuck your Ripple bullshit, and telling people emphatically like a douche to not focus on the tokens, when Ripple is completely about the founders enriching themselves with the tokens.
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April 02, 2015, 06:12:08 PM

I reckon there'll be some butt hurt bears by Monday.
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April 02, 2015, 06:13:19 PM

Shorts at 24k..

Tarmi about to cry again Smiley

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How do you know about Fresh money?

Because the amount of USD swaps hasn't gone up appreciably, meaning those coins were probably not bought with leverage.



good.

bulls finally sending some real cash to exchanges to take over those expansive leverage long positions means we are squeezing them.

Your logic here doesn't make sense. If this pattern continues the shorts will actually get squeezed, the longs will not unless we pierce 235 (or lower)


nope. many longs are underwater already.



$2 less underwater than they were an hour ago! Seriously, after a 14 month bear market, nobody's jumping into a highly leveraged long position. We've had that beaten out of us. The risk of a long margin call cascade is minimal. Now it's the bear's turn to learn some things the hard way.

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nope. many longs are underwater already.



$2 less underwater than they were an hour ago! Seriously, after a 14 month bear market, nobody's jumping into a highly leveraged long position.



oh really?

except when an army of monkeys start to yell that we are out of bear market, and in the makings of the next great thing. then you get that fanatic buying frenzy on margin at 260~290. because you know...the moon.

Cheesy

if I am not wrong, even you are long from 260. Cheesy

so yeah, this is just another successful bag holder story.
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April 02, 2015, 06:18:19 PM

Ripple Labs is the equivalent of a central bank for XRP. If we wanted a central bank, we would have kept our fiat.
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