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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 8 (5.9%)
H2 2019 - 15 (11%)
H1 2020 - 25 (18.4%)
H2 2020 - 25 (18.4%)
H1 2021 - 11 (8.1%)
H2 2021 - 27 (19.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (4.4%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.9%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 2 (1.5%)
2024 or Later - 13 (9.6%)
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April 02, 2015, 08:02:59 PM

How does this service work?
They don't explain it in their site.

Are they using BTC and then converting it to fiat again? Are they just using the blokchain without touching BTC?

They just say "we use the blockchain", do you have more details on how this all works?

https://aligncommerce.com/how

Looks like a shitier version of paypal
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April 02, 2015, 08:04:46 PM

How does this service work?
They don't explain it in their site.

Are they using BTC and then converting it to fiat again? Are they just using the blokchain without touching BTC?

They just say "we use the blockchain", do you have more details on how this all works?

They probably operate as a hawaladar and use BTC for settlements. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawala
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April 02, 2015, 08:05:48 PM


What is the link to this?
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April 02, 2015, 08:08:37 PM


chart buddy hand draws these charts 24/7

Explanation
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April 02, 2015, 08:14:29 PM

How does this service work?
They don't explain it in their site.

Are they using BTC and then converting it to fiat again? Are they just using the blokchain without touching BTC?

They just say "we use the blockchain", do you have more details on how this all works?
It could be a scam, and it could be a remittance service where there are local bank to BTC connections in each country.
I don't think these services where bitcoin is 100% hidden are good for remittance services in the long run. Better to do it like Thailand: Make it very easy to convert bitcoin to local currency. And make it easy to buy bitcoin in the remittance sender country.
That way, the receiving part can choose to convert to local currency at any time. I believe this would quickly transform to a local bitcoin market where you can buy groceries and fish with bitcoin.
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April 02, 2015, 08:58:41 PM

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April 02, 2015, 09:06:28 PM

https://twitter.com/HiRISE/status/583730218302451712


omg everyone run..... it's the dooooooom bear from mars! we all know what that means... #martiandoombear
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April 02, 2015, 09:09:51 PM

come to papa!

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just read the news about st petersburg bowl dropping bitcoin.

is there a bet somewhere about bitpay going under this year?
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April 02, 2015, 09:12:38 PM


This Trojan Bull was filled with Bears...




We'll meet at the bottom, you bunch of failures.

DOOOOOM!
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April 02, 2015, 09:17:57 PM


This Trojan Bull was filled with Bears...

We'll meet at the bottom, you bunch of failures.

DOOOOOM!


Price up 2%. Keep trolling, fool.
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April 02, 2015, 09:18:35 PM

Wonder what China will do when they wake up?


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April 02, 2015, 09:19:38 PM

Wonder what China will do when they wake up?




We will know if 30 minutes or so
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April 02, 2015, 09:21:52 PM

How come that you bitcoiners think that in every crypto technology the fucking token is the main point?
XRP is just a token that is not even necessary for the ripple protocol to work (it's an addition as a bridge and as a spam mechanism, but not really necessary), its price could be at a fraction of a penny and nobody would even need to touch it.

The ripple protocol is a very promising technology and still is, same goes with Eris Industries or Ethereum and others.

Stop focusing on the friggin' "coins". It's very probable that they won't even be a part of the future of crypto (where distibuted ledgers/databases are the real useful innovation).

railing against human nature is a dinosaur braying against the meteors ... noone's listening to you, it is about the coins you fool, where have you been the last 5 years under a rock?

Ripple is finished because anyone can seize anyone's coins and kick them off the net for arbitrary reasons ... stupid ripple labs just shot themselves in the foot by locking up Jed's ripple coins in bitstamp and advertising to the world how broken ripple is. And the same will go with any other "blockchain" tech that has arbitrary centralised controllers, cartels, pools whatever.

The digital internet of valuable data is like nothing before, leave your past experiences and preconceived notions at the door. Where we are going there are no charts. The weird and unusual will thrive. The petty, boring, staid, inefficient, corrupt establishment old ways can be left behind.
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April 02, 2015, 09:29:14 PM

How come that you bitcoiners think that in every crypto technology the fucking token is the main point?
XRP is just a token that is not even necessary for the ripple protocol to work (it's an addition as a bridge and as a spam mechanism, but not really necessary), its price could be at a fraction of a penny and nobody would even need to touch it.

The ripple protocol is a very promising technology and still is, same goes with Eris Industries or Ethereum and others.

Stop focusing on the friggin' "coins". It's very probable that they won't even be a part of the future of crypto (where distibuted ledgers/databases are the real useful innovation).

railing against human nature is a dinosaur braying against the meteors ... noone's listening to you, it is about the coins you fool, where have you been the last 5 years under a rock?

Ripple is finished because anyone can seize anyone's coins and kick them off the net for arbitrary reasons ... stupid ripple labs just shot themselves in the foot by locking up Jed's ripple coins in bitstamp and advertising to the world how broken ripple is. And the same will go with any other "blockchain" tech that has arbitrary centralised controllers, cartels, pools whatever.

The digital internet of valuable data is like nothing before, leave your past experiences and preconceived notions at the door. Where we are going there are no charts. The weird and unusual will thrive. The petty, boring, staid, inefficient, corrupt establishment old ways can be left behind.
Well spoken, sir.
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April 02, 2015, 09:30:14 PM

...Where we are going there are no charts...

http://onetorontoplumbing.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/incredibly-dirty-toilet-in-need-of-cleaning.jpg

Bon voyage, intrepid investor.
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April 02, 2015, 09:32:09 PM

Looks like a great start to an organic growth.




Do not ever consider dumping on this one. It will go on like this forever...

Of course it will, just like last time, lol
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April 02, 2015, 09:32:31 PM

Leaving the global financial establishment behind at 2.7 transactions per second?  Undecided
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April 02, 2015, 09:33:37 PM

Looks like its all over, just saw this bitcoiner running from the huobi exchange minutes ago....



Don't be that guy
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How come that you bitcoiners think that in every crypto technology the fucking token is the main point?
XRP is just a token that is not even necessary for the ripple protocol to work (it's an addition as a bridge and as a spam mechanism, but not really necessary), its price could be at a fraction of a penny and nobody would even need to touch it.

The ripple protocol is a very promising technology and still is, same goes with Eris Industries or Ethereum and others.

Stop focusing on the friggin' "coins". It's very probable that they won't even be a part of the future of crypto (where distibuted ledgers/databases are the real useful innovation).

railing against human nature is a dinosaur braying against the meteors ... noone's listening to you, it is about the coins you fool, where have you been the last 5 years under a rock?

Ripple is finished because anyone can seize anyone's coins and kick them off the net for arbitrary reasons ... stupid ripple labs just shot themselves in the foot by locking up Jed's ripple coins in bitstamp and advertising to the world how broken ripple is. And the same will go with any other "blockchain" tech that has arbitrary centralised controllers, cartels, pools whatever.

The digital internet of valuable data is like nothing before, leave your past experiences and preconceived notions at the door. Where we are going there are no charts. The weird and unusual will thrive. The petty, boring, staid, inefficient, corrupt establishment old ways can be left behind.
"Last five years" I was buying bitcoin at $12 (pretty much when I opened this account) because it was a big innovation at the time, the technology was very promising, the marketcap was ridiculously small (demand supply dynamics made it possible to make it rise in value exponentially fairly quickly making bitcoin a very good bet) and it was relatively early.

Today it is a very different landscape. We know the limits of BTC and the blockchain a lot better and new technologies are strating to appear (AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT ALTCOINS/SHITCOINS!!!!).

You too have to calm down and take a deep breath. Quite frankly your view about "honest money" is a fairy tale to me by somebody who doesn't really understand how the world works, especially if applied to bitcoin (would be a little different if applied to gold at least...).

I'm not saying it's impossible for BTC to rise in value again (there is still a possibility that it becomes some sort of speculative monster store of value gold 2.0 kinda stuff, although I think it's unlikely), I just think that your reasons why you believe it should (replacing fiat or whatever) are mostly delusional made up stuff.
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April 02, 2015, 09:36:22 PM

Leaving the global financial establishment behind at 2.7 transactions per second?  Undecided

No no, they got it all taken care of.  They'll hardfork that bitch like a red-headed stepchild.  Soon as they stop stop quarreling long enough to write a line of code.
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