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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
7/14 - 0 (0%)
7/21 - 1 (0.8%)
7/28 - 11 (8.9%)
8/4 - 16 (12.9%)
8/11 - 8 (6.5%)
8/18 - 6 (4.8%)
8/25 - 8 (6.5%)
After August - 74 (59.7%)
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April 05, 2015, 11:16:53 AM



You cannot find any genuine reason why bitcoin will fail in its current implementation. Solution? Find a hypothetical problem by changing the protocol. Lol.

You need to get out more.

How is it hypothetical? Hasnt bitcoin halved before? All stolfi is saying is that the protocol is not cast in stone - there is built in 'wriggle-room'. And as i pointed out before, the protocol is so clever, that you can be sure that these parameters are not there by 'accident'

He said that bitcoin has halved before with no appreciable change in price, and it will do so again. The timing of the event doesn't seem to be critical.

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You cannot find any genuine reason why bitcoin will fail in its current implementation

Has he said it will fail? I see he is skeptical about $100k+ coins ( i agree) and about its long term success ( I disagree), but I dont see him screaming doom. Just some reasoned arguments that are only being countered with shouts and threats.

If bitcoin is to stand any chance of having any credibility in the wider world, you will have to raise your game in defending it.
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April 05, 2015, 11:21:18 AM

Bitcoin is trustless, you don't have to trust anybody*










* You only have to trust a bunch of chinese anon dudes that for all we know are pretending to be different pools so they could attack the network right now.
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April 05, 2015, 11:32:22 AM

Bitcoin is trustless, you don't have to trust anybody*










* You only have to trust a bunch of chinese anon dudes that for all we know are pretending to be different pools so they could attack the network right now.

You have to trust people to act in their own best interest as opposed to central bankers who are supposed to ignore their own best interest and act for the good of the citizenry.  Who is being naive?
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April 05, 2015, 11:48:56 AM

Am I the only one who cannot connect to kraken.com?
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April 05, 2015, 11:51:51 AM

Am I the only one who cannot connect to kraken.com?

Nope. Some sort of cloudflare issue.
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April 05, 2015, 11:51:52 AM

Bitcoin is trustless, you don't have to trust anybody*


* You only have to trust a bunch of chinese anon dudes that for all we know are pretending to be different pools so they could attack the network right now.

The concept of trust needs definition, I see. In all trade, you need to trust the other party. If you buy an apple, you have to trust the seller that the apple is not rotten inside, or if it is, that he will replace it with a good one when it is discovered. If you pay with a carrot, the same thing. You can not avoid trust. In an evolutional view, when an individual can remember and identify another individual, is the breaking point. In trade, generally, the possibility to develop trust between members of the trading community is a big plus. Between people who trust each other, trade flows easily.

Then there is a distinctive trade, it's beginning and it's end. If a trade is concluded successfully, there is no more need for trust. Now the trust that is achived is good for future trades, but the concluded trade is finished and there is no outstanding liability.

When money is paid, the trade is concluded and there is no liability. If the trade is paid with debt in any form, there is remaining liability, either between the traders themselves or a third party. This means that if a trade is finished with payment in fiat, gold, or bitcoin, it is concluded, there is no liability that needs trust. If it is paid with a bank transfer, a credit card, a bill of exchange, there is reminescent liability somewhere in the system,  and the need for trust that some debtor is able and willing to clear.

You need to trust the exchange, but only until you have withdrawn the bitcoin or fiat you converted your money to. After that, no trust is needed.

This is a huge difference between holding bitcoin and holding fiat in a bank. Bitcoin is trustless, the deposit in a bank account is not.


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April 05, 2015, 11:51:59 AM

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You have to trust people to act in their own best interest as opposed to central bankers who are supposed to ignore their own best interest and act for the good of the citizenry.  Who is being naive?

The banksters already have more money than they could ever spend.  They only want our young.  

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April 05, 2015, 11:58:40 AM

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April 05, 2015, 12:02:30 PM

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You need to trust the exchange, but only until you have withdrawn the bitcoin or fiat you converted your money to. After that, no trust is needed.
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What about the dev cabal?  Now that The Bitcoin Foundation is bankrupt, they're gonna sell their services to the highest bidder Cool
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April 05, 2015, 12:09:03 PM

$260 Bitchez!!
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April 05, 2015, 12:09:46 PM

Well that was a pleasant way to wake up in the morning!

Price had been flat so long I had nearly forgotten what my alarms sounded like.

260 albeit briefly is better than a kick in the nuts
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April 05, 2015, 12:14:33 PM

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April 05, 2015, 12:15:55 PM

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You are really scraping the barrel now Stolfi.

You cannot find any genuine reason why bitcoin will fail in its current implementation. Solution? Find a hypothetical problem by changing the protocol. Lol.

You need to get out more.

He's just jealous that Satoshi's dick was bigger and is now trying to overcompensate. We know now why Satoshi has disappeared... He can't get back up on his chair from laughing with Trolfis posts.
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April 05, 2015, 12:27:18 PM

A worthy challenger appears.

http://s13.postimg.org/7beida5qv/Capture.jpg

Yep. It's over, Bitcoiners.

...I predict our trolls will now hide in their holes until the next dump  Grin

Sure hope so.
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April 05, 2015, 12:29:08 PM

A worthy challenger appears.



Yep. It's over, Bitcoiners.

...I predict our trolls will now hide in their holes until the next dump  Grin

Sure hope so.

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yes Leocoin is here.

HAHA
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April 05, 2015, 12:31:12 PM

A very nice looking volume. People were commenting about green weekly MACD yesterday and today we have a response from the market.
All hodlers are happy. I predict our trolls will now hide in their holes until the next dump  Grin

Oh my goodness! This pump is huge!  Roll Eyes
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April 05, 2015, 12:32:45 PM

A very nice looking volume. People were commenting about green weekly MACD yesterday and today we have a response from the market.
All hodlers are happy. I predict our trolls will now hide in their holes until the next dump  Grin

Oh my goodness! This pump is huge!  Roll Eyes

If BTC sucks so much maybe you should remove the begging bowl you have as a sig.
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April 05, 2015, 12:33:14 PM

Do not panic!!!

These are just shorts panic closing

We are going back down tonight!!!

Add more shorts

DO NOT BE AFRAID TARMI
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April 05, 2015, 12:35:35 PM

Your shorts & borrowed coins won't protect you when we have a serious pump.
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April 05, 2015, 12:35:49 PM

WOW !!!

i cant believe my eyes, we break 260 !!!
where are the bears... Huh
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