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November 18, 2015, 04:55:46 PM

volume seems to be holding up, 310 is a good cheap coin target, i think there's a pretty good change we see 316, 333, 366, 406!, 386, 346.

2016
Q1   300-400
Q2   350-450
Q3   400-800
Q4   800

2017

Q1 2200
Q2 2900
Q3 3500
Q4 32,000


2 year bull run ends with a 3 month climb from 3500, to 32,000

after that it's a bouncy ride down to forever stable 10,000$

and then... well then, the truly never ending bull run starts.
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Sorry, but mindlessly throwing out the term "Stormfront" in an attempt to insult someone who has never looked at that website before does not invalidate the objective reality of what I've typed.  You'll have to actually address the subject of what I've typed instead of using fake strawman tactics.

Well, i just mentioned that site so you could understand that I think it's pure nonsense and not science, things are not real just because YOU think so.

Read

A Troublesome Inheritance by Chris Smith

The Emperor's New Clothes: Biological Theories of Race at the Millennium. Joseph L. Graves, Jr.

And please stop using a bitcoin forum to spew out hate...
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November 18, 2015, 05:02:08 PM

Not sure about dominant/recessive genes, frankly don't give a flying fuck. What I do give a fuck about is the pitch-black ignorant pasty faggots who obsess about shit like racial purity.
As far as Bitcoin being racist? Not sure what you mean. Appears that plenty of bitcoiners sure are Smiley

Thank you for giving away the origin of your anti-Bitcoin spam accounts "lambchop / 5000 other fake aliases".  Pushing a constant anti-Bitcoin, pro-fiat agenda, while also being vehemently pro-cultural Marxism.  I was starting to believe someone like the Russian government was funding anti-Bitcoin spammers, but this is obviously not the case.  Very few groups on earth fit the profile you put out, especially ones that become enraged by their cultural marxist views being challenged.  It's easy to tell where these spam accounts are originating from and being funded by now.

And please stop using a bitcoin forum to spew out hate...

Claiming that mentioning Caucasian and Asian genes are recessive is "spewing hate" is a complete joke.  You're trying to use strawman tactics and political correctness as a basis to win arguments.  The person "spewing hate" is actually you because you're claiming anyone arguing from a non-minority viewpoint is automatically wrong and racist by default.  You are the true biased racist and it's disgusting.
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November 18, 2015, 05:03:15 PM

volume seems to be holding up, 310 is a good cheap coin target, i think there's a pretty good change we see 316, 333, 366, 406!, 386, 346.

2016
Q1   300-400
Q2   350-450
Q3   400-800
Q4   800

2017

Q1 2200
Q2 2900
Q3 3500
Q4 32,000


2 year bull run ends with a 3 month climb from 3500, to 32,000

after that it's a bouncy ride down to forever stable 10,000$

and then... well then, the truly never ending bull run starts.

I am looking forward for 666
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November 18, 2015, 05:04:24 PM

also Adam, were you ever right at your predictions?  Grin
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November 18, 2015, 05:07:45 PM

slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oow day
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Your brother stopped by Smiley
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is that your brother from another mother?
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November 18, 2015, 05:10:17 PM

Yet racism continues to be deeply rooted in the "standard American mindset", as betrayed by the "race" field in forms. [ ... ]  Humans in isolation are not racist.  Children are not racist.  Many "savage" tribes, while strongly "nationalistic", are not racist, and often practice exogamic (inter-tribal) marriages as a rule.  Racial segregation is always a social phenomenon, imposed by society whenever two or more groups of people are competing for power or resources.  Biological differences, liek skin color, are then only a pretext -- a convenient label used by oppressors to keep the oppressed in teir place and deny them whatever is the real object of dispute,

Not the american mindset, the human mindset. Humans will always find differences between groups and go to war over them. Even in african countries, where everyone is the same to our eyes, neighboring villages will fight eachother over perceived differences. It's just a basic part of human nature. Or look at Japan before the black ships arrived. Fact is humans need enemies to fight, and we will always find them.

My point is that groups do not oppress/discriminate/fight other groups because of biological differences, or even cultural differences (religious, linguistic, dress, etc.).  The motivation is always economic or political.  Those differences are just convenient criteria that the upper group adopts to draw a sharp line between "us" and "them".   Biological differences, when they exist, are "better" for that purpose than cultural ones, because "they" may change their customs and religion, and quickly learn "our" language; but "they" cannot change their skin color, and their children will inherit it.  

That is also the reason why racists do not recognize gradations, or put all "mixed race" as a single separate race. Social discrimination is by necessity a binary thing: either "they" are allowed to attend medical school, own land, live in this neighborhood, hold political office, etc. -- or they aren't. There is no useful middle ground in discrimination, so when race is used as a basis for it, it has to be a discrete classification, not a continuum.

"Race" comprehends three concepts: bio-genomic clusters commonality, biological race and social race.  [ ... ] Race in biology means a group within a species so different from the rest that it's on a definite path towards the constitution of a new species. In this sense there are no subspecies races among humans.

Real biologists do not use the term "race" because the concept is bullshit.  They use "sub-species", but, as you wrote, it applies to populations that are biologically able to interbreed, but have different gene frequencies because they have been kept separate by geography or other reasons (such as disjoint flowering times).  When the obstacle disappears, subspecies usually mix and the distinction disappears.

Indeed, natural evolution invented sex even before it invented legs or brains -- because it found that mixing genes is good for life in general.  By nature, individuals generally have a drive to pick prtners for "DNA mixing" outside their group, as long as the genetic differences are small enough to allow it.  Avoidance of other "races" is always a social imposition.

No human population has been isolated long enough to make cross-breeding impossible.  The Australian aborigines and the Andaman Negritos, who may be the extreme branches, have split out from the trunk less than 100'000 years ago.    Even the Neanderthals are now known to have interbred with "modern man" ("Cro-Magnons") in Europe and elsewhere.  

For as far back as we can tell, entire nations have migrated by thousands of kilometres in a few generations, because of war, climate changes, population pressure, hunting opportunities, etc..  Mountains, rivers, glaciers, deserts, even open oceans were never hard barriers to human movement. Humans are very mobile, so genetic flow between populations has never been zero.

Moreover, each gene spreads, mutates, and is selected for mostly independently of other genes; so there is no single gene, or even a gene combination, that could be used to distinguish the so-called "races".   A single individual who moves from one population to another will inject his genes into the latter's gene pool, and any of his genes can spread to the whole population, just by random genetic drift, over the span of a few centuries.  So, even if there are environmental or social factors that make dark skin (say) disadvantageous, that trait may quickly disappear, while other genes that came "in the same boat" with dark ski will persist and spread.

A sobering exercise, that underscores how silly the notion of "race" is, is to compute how many ancestors you had by the year 1000 CE.   Any one of your genes may or may not have been inherited from any one of those ancestors.  How can you tell that none of them were from "race X"?

Why are you so sure? Are you scientist that specializes in this area? If not, how do you know? From scientists? How do you know what they think?

Well, I have read a cubic meter of Scientific American and half a cubic meter of Science (which is the second most prestigious journal for biology, after Nature), mostly cover-to-cover; and some books on human genetics, like Cavalli-Sforza's.  I have dabbed in computational biology and even published a some minor things on that subject.  Yes, I think I can tell with sufficient authority what scientists think about the concept of "race".  

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Let's imagine for a second that you are a scientist and you think that there is some validity to this idea. Would you announce this thought in public? To become a racist in the eyes of this public? If you plan a research in this area, which evidences would you look for - for and against this idea? What would you prefer - to receive a grant or to become a target for witch-hunt?  So the honest answer to the question "is there any scientific validity to the idea of different human races" should be: We don't know because unbiased research in this area is politically impossible.

That is not a strong enough reason to explain why scientists reject the concept of race.  There have been many "scientists" and even real scientists in the past who have openly held racist views, and even got praise and money for that.  Around the 1930, Stanford was sort of a center for that sort of thing.  (I recall that in the 1980s, William Shockeley -- one of the inventors of the transistor -- was at Stanford, and was an outspoken believer in races.)

But, curiously, the belief in "race" seems to have been stronger among scientists from other fields than among geneticists.  Even before the genetic code was deciphered, geneticists could not ignore the complexity of actual gene distributions, that had little correlation with racial boundaries.  Now that we can read the genome, the absurdity of the concept is obvious even to non-geneticists.

Ancient astronomers assumed that the stars were located on a sphere centered on the Earth; so they though that the apparent groupings of stars on the sky were all important, especially those across the ecliptic that were "visited" by the Sun, Moon, and planets.  Astrologers built a complicated intellectual edifice on top of them. But once astronomers determined the true distances to the stars, and figured out the three-dimensional "geography" of the cosmos, they realized that constellations and star magnitudes were just meaningless illusions, and astrology was total bullshit.  

Well, the concept of "race" among biologists had a somewhat similar history...  
None of which changes that the immigrants want to (and, do,) kill us.

Reminder of what we are up against: https://i.imgur.com/CWQkRzh.jpg

This is the reality we live in. The entire western world is at war, and has been for decades now. This was just the first event obvious enough for the masses to take notice. There will be more.
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November 18, 2015, 05:12:14 PM

also Adam, were you ever right at your predictions?  Grin

sure

look at the first 1000 pages of this thread
i was actually very spot on back in the day.
once the bull market really take hold, i think you'll see my short term prediction are right more often then not  Cheesy


and when i ran my newsletter bitmovements i called the top of the bubble @900 after the initial selloff and bounce back from 1200
i just didn't expect the bear market to be so devastating and long lasting.

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November 18, 2015, 05:14:52 PM

Not sure about dominant/recessive genes, frankly don't give a flying fuck. What I do give a fuck about is the pitch-black ignorant pasty faggots who obsess about shit like racial purity.
As far as Bitcoin being racist? Not sure what you mean. Appears that plenty of bitcoiners sure are Smiley

Thank you for giving away the origin of your anti-Bitcoin spam accounts "lambchop / 5000 other fake aliases".  Pushing a constant anti-Bitcoin, pro-fiat agenda, while also being vehemently pro-cultural Marxism.  I was starting to believe someone like the Russian government was funding anti-Bitcoin spammers, but this is obviously not the case.  Very few groups on earth fit the profile you put out, especially ones that become enraged by their cultural marxist views being challenged.  It's easy to tell where these spam accounts are originating from and being funded by now.

I'm not anti-bitcoin. I'm anti ignorant, angry faggots like you, who use words they don't understand to prop up their idiotic, paranoid world views.
You see conspiracies and plots everywhere, because it's the only way for you to explain how you came to be such a fucking failure, without having to acknowledge the obvious, begging answer: because you fucking suck Smiley

Once again, thank you for revealing the source and funding of your 5000 paid anti-Bitcoin spam accounts "lambchop/other aliases".  Besides the pro-fiat, anti-bitcoin stance, the part where you become enraged by people not accepting domination by cultural Marxism was key in figuring it out.
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Not sure about dominant/recessive genes, frankly don't give a flying fuck. What I do give a fuck about is the pitch-black ignorant pasty faggots who obsess about shit like racial purity.
As far as Bitcoin being racist? Not sure what you mean. Appears that plenty of bitcoiners sure are Smiley

Thank you for giving away the origin of your anti-Bitcoin spam accounts "lambchop / 5000 other fake aliases".  Pushing a constant anti-Bitcoin, pro-fiat agenda, while also being vehemently pro-cultural Marxism.  I was starting to believe someone like the Russian government was funding anti-Bitcoin spammers, but this is obviously not the case.  Very few groups on earth fit the profile you put out, especially ones that become enraged by their cultural marxist views being challenged.  It's easy to tell where these spam accounts are originating from and being funded by now.

I'm not anti-bitcoin. I'm anti ignorant, angry faggots like you, who use words they don't understand to prop up their idiotic, paranoid world views.
You see conspiracies and plots everywhere, because it's the only way for you to explain how you came to be such a fucking failure, without having to acknowledge the obvious, begging answer: because you fucking suck Smiley

The Dunning–Kruger effect is a cognitive bias wherein relatively unskilled individuals suffer from illusory superiority, mistakenly assessing their ability to be much higher than is accurate. Dunning and Kruger attributed this bias to a metacognitive inability of the unskilled to recognize their own ineptitude.
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November 18, 2015, 05:17:52 PM

slooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oow day
again

Your brother stopped by Smiley
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is that your brother from another mother?

Not recognizing your own kinfolk Angry http://www.reocities.com/swedishscum/ggallin/mj9304.jpg

 Grin   ahh, got it - funny,  never saw the pic
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My child is asian, african, and european(both north and mediterranean)

Please let me know what race this is.

Please let me know what relevance the answer would have.


 
What does the kid look like? The relevance of that is how people will treat it.
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Pro-fiat: Entire world.
Actually Gaddafi wanted a gold based economy. Which is why he was killed in broad daylight. And oh yeah, those of us who prefer bitcoin over fiat are apparently not part of "the world".
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Pro-fiat: Entire world.
Actually Gaddafi wanted a gold based economy. Which is why he was killed in broad daylight. And oh yeah, those of us who prefer bitcoin over fiat are apparently not part of "the world".

>Gaddafi wanted a gold based economy
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Yeah, looks like the whole world Smiley

And you are happy about this.
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also Adam, were you ever right at your predictions?  Grin

sure

look at the first 1000 pages of this thread
i was actually very spot on back in the day.
once the bull market really take hold, i think you'll see my short term prediction are right more often then not  Cheesy


and when i ran my newsletter bitmovements i called the top of the bubble @900 after the initial selloff and bounce back from 1200
i just didn't expect the bear market to be so devastating and long lasting.



The good ole days.. I remember that, has it really been 2 years?

Actually, yeah, it has. 2 long, painful hodling years waiting for the millions to come back.
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November 18, 2015, 05:59:39 PM

What will be the next movie in this weekend?




short short short!


Each of the two above posts, seem like wishful thinking, as if each of these have oversold, and want to buy back in at lower prices... maybe below $320 if that is still possible?  or maybe near $300 which seems to be becoming even less likely to be in the short-term future of BTC prices....  
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November 18, 2015, 06:02:28 PM

OK Buddy. Bitcoin is stable now.


Cannot be stable with this level of volume... think of below 15k per day or 105k per week as thresholds on Stamp... and if we get below those volume numbers or at least in that ballpark, then we could possibly assert that BTC is stable.
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November 18, 2015, 06:08:41 PM

It's official, this thread is now disgusting.

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Just now?  LOL

I have fresh fiat and am patiently waiting for the dump Cool


A dump is not guaranteed.

What is your target price point?  $325?  

Currently, prices are at $334, and there is a lot of difficulties getting below $330, and maybe you should invest 25% of your available fiat at this price point, and then maybe another 25% at $330 (if we get there)  and another 25% at $325 (if we get there)  another 12.5% at $320 (if we get there), and save the remaining 12.5% in case we break $320.  Just a thought.




Edit:  On the other hand, if prices spurt upwards from here, you may be chasing the price upward with your fiat.
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