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Question of the day. Is Jstolfi paid by Ver, or just hopeless?
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December 14, 2017, 01:34:38 PM

Can you even sell Super Bitcoins yet? I couldn't find a wallet that even supports it.  Not storing my bitcoin on some exchange just to get quick crap coin dumps.
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December 14, 2017, 01:35:48 PM

Question of the day. Is Jstolfi paid by Ver, or just hopeless?

A broken clock is correct twice a day. Or in Jstolfi's case, maybe once in a millennia if at all.

It feels good for the nocoiners and naysayers to make outlandish claims like "Bitcoin may go to a million dollars one day before it goes to zero." That way they can smuggishly still be right on the first part, while simultaneously moving the goal posts on the second part out to infinity. Or at least to well after they are dead and gone.  Am I right?
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December 14, 2017, 01:38:38 PM

Can you even sell Super Bitcoins yet? I couldn't find a wallet that even supports it.  Not storing my bitcoin on some exchange just to get quick crap coin dumps.

None of the wallets on their site supports it?
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December 14, 2017, 01:41:12 PM

I hope you experienced guys can advise:

Which exchange is best to use to change a LARGE amount of BTC into USD and deposit it into a bank acc in the UK plz.
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It's important to try and keep the whole transaction  immune to the volatility of BTC so the the deposited USD amount is as close to the initial amount as possible.

I would have said Bitstamp.  BUT:

1. They can ask you to prove where the BTC came from at the point you try to withdraw cash.  I managed to satisfy them, but it took time and if they had not been satisfied I suspect they might have refused.  Scary while it was held in suspense, which it was.

2. They are now getting very slow for withdrawals - over a week now to even confirm (USD) withdrawal - let alone see it in your bank.  I don't know about SEPA, as I no longer use this method (see 3 below).

3. When you sell for USD and they withdraw USD for you, they change it into Euros via a Slovenian bank, then send it as Euros (via SEPA) to your UK bank (as Euros), who will then convert to GBP.  This friction is expensive.  In the end I found the best thing to do is set up a UK USD account and use 'International wire transfer' to transfer USD.  You can then use a Forex broker to give you a good rate for USD to GBP.

Not very helpful, but I think very few exchanges are easy right now for UK BTC - cash.  generally I trust Bitstamp - but the slowness is now concerning.


Suddenly glad I didn't manage to get a stamp account set up. Thanks for sharing. And be careful, sounds like the start of another goxing.
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December 14, 2017, 01:44:45 PM

Can you even sell Super Bitcoins yet? I couldn't find a wallet that even supports it.  Not storing my bitcoin on some exchange just to get quick crap coin dumps.

None of the wallets on their site supports it?

I tried bitpie and it didn't have it listed. Pretty sure Electrum doesn't. I don't know about the 3 Chinese wallets, I was hoping someone else might have found one.
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December 14, 2017, 01:46:01 PM

2. They are now getting very slow for withdrawals - over a week now to even confirm (USD) withdrawal - let alone see it in your bank.  I don't know about SEPA, as I no longer use this method (see 3 below).

It might be due to the round-about way it has to go for you. I'm getting USD withdrawals to the US confirmed in a day.
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December 14, 2017, 02:14:05 PM

Another one bites the dust!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

Hitbtc off line for hours!
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December 14, 2017, 02:19:52 PM

Another one bites the dust!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

Hitbtc off line for hours!

Video links are generally useless without some context.  Is this a song?  Aint nobody got time fo dat!
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December 14, 2017, 02:20:38 PM

Can you even sell Super Bitcoins yet? I couldn't find a wallet that even supports it.  Not storing my bitcoin on some exchange just to get quick crap coin dumps.

None of the wallets on their site supports it?

I tried bitpie and it didn't have it listed. Pretty sure Electrum doesn't. I don't know about the 3 Chinese wallets, I was hoping someone else might have found one.

Is it on line with a stable chain yet? Wallets won't support until then. Wait a couple of weeks and try again.
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December 14, 2017, 02:22:29 PM

Another one bites the dust!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

Hitbtc off line for hours!

Video links are generally useless without some context.  Is this a song?  Aint nobody got time fo dat!
Queen - Another One Bites the Dust (Official Video)
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December 14, 2017, 02:35:37 PM

2. They are now getting very slow for withdrawals - over a week now to even confirm (USD) withdrawal - let alone see it in your bank.  I don't know about SEPA, as I no longer use this method (see 3 below).

It might be due to the round-about way it has to go for you. I'm getting USD withdrawals to the US confirmed in a day.
Using litecoin at an ATM I get withdrawls and money within like 3 minutes.

Bitcoin takes closer to half an hour. So who has set up Vegas hookers with a litecoin based payment app?

Seriously: You could pay an address, add a tip, and the coins would be split between the hooker, pimp, and driver based upon mutually agreed upon rates signed by private keys held by all parties. That way you the john would know the appropriate money is going to all parties based upon agreed-on ratios.

Hm.................
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December 14, 2017, 02:45:54 PM

Question of the day. Is Jstolfi paid by Ver, or just hopeless?

A broken clock is correct twice a day. Or in Jstolfi's case, maybe once in a millennia if at all.

It feels good for the nocoiners and naysayers to make outlandish claims like "Bitcoin may go to a million dollars one day before it goes to zero." That way they can smuggishly still be right on the first part, while simultaneously moving the goal posts on the second part out to infinity. Or at least to well after they are dead and gone.  Am I right?

He doesn't seem to apply the same standards to RogerDollars.
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December 14, 2017, 02:46:43 PM

Also, I'd like to point out that the ever so subtle LTC shilling in this thread is wearing thin fast. Angry
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December 14, 2017, 02:48:04 PM

Another one bites the dust!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rY0WxgSXdEE

Hitbtc off line for hours!

Video links are generally useless without some context.  Is this a song?  Aint nobody got time fo dat!
Queen - Another One Bites the Dust (Official Video)


 Cool!  Thanks.  Ill save the bandwidth and sing it to myself.
I saw Queen perform it during their Hot Space tour so it's still fresh in my mind.
Meanwile... Kraken is still choking on traffic.

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December 14, 2017, 03:00:53 PM

Question of the day. Is Jstolfi paid by Ver, or just hopeless?

WTF?  Roger promoted Jstolfi to professor of computer science.... Shocked

That site should be removed from the internet, the most horrible place you can find in this entire world.
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December 14, 2017, 03:07:26 PM

Question of the day. Is Jstolfi paid by Ver, or just hopeless?

WTF?  Roger promoted Jstolfi to professor of computer science.... Shocked

That site should be removed from the internet, the most horrible place you can find in this entire world.


What a fucking autist.

I personally believe he converted himself into a computer program in the 1970s. He should've waited until computing languages were a little more advanced.
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December 14, 2017, 03:07:29 PM

142k Unconfirmed transactions and 380 sats/byte recommended fee.
Nothing to see here, Bitcoin is working well.

I also don't get the whole LTC thing, but then I never have. Someone saw Bitcoin and thought, wow if I could make it 4 times the size, then it would be perfect!
Why not 5 times, or 10 times? I'll give them that they implemented LN and Segwit before BTC, but BTC is a slow juggernaut which is slowed by quabbling and politics, so that isn't surprising.

If LTC ever took over from BTC (spoilers, it won't) it would pretty much have exactly the same problems as Bitcoin does now, maybe slightly less due to the 4x thing.
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December 14, 2017, 03:11:48 PM

The FOMO panic sellers are awake again.

In the maintime LTC hast lost 20%, and ETH almost 12% of its value in the last 24 hours
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December 14, 2017, 03:14:30 PM

Ok, so, my brain is still booting up here for the day, but walk me through game-theory on this one.

There's a huge wall of 1000 BTC @ $17,250 on GDAX.

What would the effect be of me placing a sell wall of 1000 @ $20,000 ? I'm guessing zero effect ?

Would I be better off gaming 1000 @ $17,500 ? Would placing/pulling 1000 walls @ $17,000 cause jitters ?

Wondering how I can have some fun with this wall on GDAX. I'm a little bit bored this morning.

I should really go get a coffee into my system...

Uhh... I'm pretty sure that spoofing is considered in violation of GDAX's trading rules. If you are discovered, your account will likely be frozen.

https://support.gdax.com/customer/en/portal/articles/2725970-trading-rules?b_id=13522

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3.12 Traders are prohibited from engaging in Market Manipulation.

3.13 Market Manipulation means actions taken by a Trader or a person acting in concert with a Trader, which are intended to:

a. deceive or mislead other Traders;

b. artificially control or manipulate the price or trading volume of an Asset; or

c. aid, abet, enable, finance, support, or endorse either of the above.

and may include actions on GDAX and/or outside of GDAX.

3.14Market Manipulation specifically includes, without limitation: front-running, wash trading, spoofing, layering, churning, and quote stuffing.

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