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Question: Closing BTC Price June 28:
$0 - 5 (2.8%)
<$7,000 - 4 (2.3%)
$7,000-$7,499 - 0 (0%)
$7,500-$7,999 - 0 (0%)
$8,000-$8,499 - 1 (0.6%)
$8,500-$8,999 - 3 (1.7%)
$9,000-$9,499 - 4 (2.3%)
$9,500-$9,999 - 27 (15.3%)
$10,000-$10,499 - 24 (13.6%)
$10,500-10,999 - 13 (7.3%)
$11,000-$11,499 - 14 (7.9%)
$11,500-$12,000 - 15 (8.5%)
>$12,000 - 53 (29.9%)
>$20,000 - 14 (7.9%)
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^who of you guys where here around that time? I wasn't (me= a little latecomer)

https://twitter.com/CryptoCobain/status/1086796549643005952

The date of OG is becoming later and later and later.

Currently, it seems that anyone who really got into bitcoin before the late 2015 run up (which seems to have been the spark of the beginning of the 2017 bull run are a level of OG.  Previously, you had to have been in bitcoin prior to the late 2013 run up to have been considered an OG, but gosh if you were able to hang on to your bitcoins through both the early 2013 and the late 2013 run up, then that would have been quite the earliness.

agree,

I never said I'm an OG with BTC etc.... but I do think to be an SG or something haha

Being an OG  (OG = Original Gangster) remains relative, and surely there are going to be folks who are more strict with the definition. 

As long as you stay in bitcoin, you are likely going to become an OG because we still seem to be in quite early days.

We still have quite below 1% of world adoption of BTC, and even in more technologically aware areas, a vast majority of folks who have heard about BTC don't have much of a clue about what it is, and only a fraction of them have taken some action to either better inform themselves and/or buy a bit of it.  It seems that we are more than 5 years off before a decent percentage of the world's population get into bitcoin... even though sometimes it seems that a lot is going on in bitcoin, there is still a lot to come, so it seems.



i'm only in BTC LATE 350-ish pricess  so real OLD GUARD member is as you say 2013 or earlier, but I do think SMART GUARD can stand with me Roll Eyes and only for the reason how I had my first BTC experiences, already told few times before.... but didn't know anything of it, and became a HODLER from day one when I collected my first BTC's (or RG, reckless guard?)

Roll Eyes Grin

Certainly, if you entered in the $350 price territory, you are far ahead of folks who either entered earlier and higher or even a bit later (and higher also).  I recall in early 2016, prices floated in the $350 to $450 range for about 6 months, and surely during that time, there were a lot of naysayers who said that BTC was never going above $500 again (which was the price of the November 2015 price surge).  That November 2015 price surge to $500 had signaled to a lot of people that there was life in BTC and that we were likely coming out of the then bear market that drug through 2014 and 2015 and left a lot of folks in a bit of despair.  Nonetheless, many folks still did not believe that BTC was going to go up past $500 and in essence there was belief of the FUD, so in late May 2016 (during the memorial day weekend) prices surged beyond $500 into the $700s, and really never to see sub $500 again... beyond the short-lived spike down after the Bitfinex hack in early August 2016.

The FUDster tales repeat themselves, and there continue to be unsubstantiated proclamations that BTC is destined for failure, which continues to provide opportunities for many of us to continue to accumulate (even though we can also feel a bit depressed that the value of our stash remains far below its potential and even below where it was a year ago).   
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January 20, 2019, 05:33:22 PM
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So I just woke up, and upon seeing what has transpired, I just wanted to say “Hey bitcoin, fuck you!”

I’m so sick and tired of waiting for the price to claw its way up a little for days, then it’s all gone in minutes.

 Sad

Come on bro, I’ve seen your posts here. You’re better than this, I know you are. Strap yourself in, I know it’s a long wait but we will get there in the end.

North of $50,000 6-12 months after the halvening. Quote me on it, you owe me a beer when we get there Smiley

You are starting to sound a bit like Adam with his $32k in 1-2 years that he was repeating in 2015, 2016 and into 2017 - except you are a bit more specifically timing yours for 6 months after the halvening, and it is appearing that $50k plus would be a bit more conservative for late 2020 or early 2021 than $32k would have been while Adam was predicting $32k for 2017-ish (but his time line seemed to keep changing, too). 

To me, the odds of your steadfast prediction of $50k plus happening within the timeline that you state seem pretty decent, which justifies putting a decent amount of stake into BTC (especially for those who are currently no coiners). 

I feel that I have always had a sufficient amount of coins into BTC for such a bull run (probably since late 2014), even though I have continued to stack BTC since after late 2014.

Let's say, for example, that some no coiner has $100k in total quasi-liquid investments, and I include 401k value in that calculation.  1% would be $1k into BTC, but $10k seems to be a bit of a stronger stake.. put up to 10% without having to leverage. 

I did something like that in 2014 with what ended up being more than 10% of my total quasi-liquid value, so the bull run in 2017 caused my BTC investments to become more valuable than all of my other investments, including my 401k, and even with the large price drop of BTC, the value of my BTC still is larger than all of the other quasi-liquid investments that I have.

We know that history does not exactly repeat itself with any kind of exact similar performance, but having decent odds of another nearly 14x increase in value ($50,000 / $3,600 = 13.89) seems like a good investment with good odds. Do your own research and your milage may vary.   Wink Wink

I remember Adam’s 32k predictions well, we will see his predictions come true but maybe not as soon as he wished/hoped.

What I do know is that yourself & I have HODLED through much, much harsher times than we’re currently witnessing. I’m still at over 15 times my total investment into bitcoin. I need to recalculate that though as I’ve been buying regularly since we went sub $6,000.

Jay, I think all of us here who are possibly now becoming seen as you said earlier ‘the latest bitcoin OG’s’ need to use this period of sideways price movement as a real, real opportunity to make sure we buy as much as we can before the next bull run.

The next bull run will make a massive fucking change to a lot of our lives. I’d imagine many of us will become millionaires then.

Here’s to the future Smiley
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January 20, 2019, 05:33:57 PM

They discovered I log onto my Micgoossens account to talk the price up with random nonsensical jibberish about moon rockets, then log back onto the r0ach account, post something that makes sense, crash the market, then cover shorts.

Interesting theory, roach.   Cheesy Cheesy Wink 
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I will post my review tomorrow Grin

 Be careful, brother, and be sure to double-bag it.
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January 20, 2019, 05:35:06 PM
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I often check whether I'm scrolling on the right thread...
Check.

OK, guys I'm thinking of having her over tonight:



It's 1 ETH per hour, shower, CIF, COB, CIM, 69, girlfriend style, extra ball, role play included.
Extra: Video with mask, 1 Grin.
Rating: 8.8

I will post my review tomorrow Grin



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Who's the tribe behind communism?  The Hebrew.  Thank god for Nazism.

Amen.  Remember the 6 trillion.

Wauw is this even allowed? I have never written one word of that sentence.
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I often check whether I'm scrolling on the right thread...
Check.

OK, guys I'm thinking of having her over tonight:



It's 1 ETH per hour, shower, CIF, COB, CIM, 69, girlfriend style, extra ball, role play included.
Extra: Video with mask, 1 Grin.
Rating: 8.8

I will post my review tomorrow Grin



Damn, im feeling old - dont know what half of this means. :/

But have fun  Wink

Cum in face
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Cum in face
Not sure what extra ball is
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^prolly means she's got one too Wink
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^. Muchos cohones Grin

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But man gotta do something @my whiskey skills..... this one, was difficult to digest! Roll Eyes

Curious to LFC’s monday pic’s

And good game @LFC today , brought me JOY

Haha this glass of whiskey stood there for at least an hour before he drank it. Meanwhile his grandmother was almost crying, thinking her grandson is becoming an alcoholic..  Huh
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Being an OG  (OG = Original Gangster) remains relative, and surely there are going to be folks who are more strict with the definition. 
  

yeah I knew the meaning of OG but (original gangster, sounds wrong in BTC date hodling) OG as old guard sounded better Roll Eyes
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It's actually "on body" I believe.

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You saucy, naughty, dirty little WO's, I'm going to punish you Grin



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Wauw is this even allowed? I have never written one word of that sentence.


 This troll/bigot hasn't got a shred of morality.  It's best to ignore him.


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It's actually "on body" I believe.

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You saucy, naughty, dirty little WO's, I'm going to punish you Grin





I’m going to pay for the girls at the $100,000 party. My selections Cheesy
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What the hell is "girlfriend style"?

She decides she isn't actually in the mood and bitches at you about your gaming habit?
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insane man, you can't write english as good/stylish as me  Tongue  Roll Eyes

*as well

That was just an error\wrong on purpose (to see if anyone notice)  Tongue

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What the hell is "girlfriend style"?

She decides she isn't actually in the mood and bitches at you about your gaming habit?

 dammit!  You do that every time I have just doled out my last smerit!

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January 20, 2019, 06:03:15 PM

So I just woke up, and upon seeing what has transpired, I just wanted to say “Hey bitcoin, fuck you!”

I’m so sick and tired of waiting for the price to claw its way up a little for days, then it’s all gone in minutes.

 Sad

Come on bro, I’ve seen your posts here. You’re better than this, I know you are. Strap yourself in, I know it’s a long wait but we will get there in the end.

North of $50,000 6-12 months after the halvening. Quote me on it, you owe me a beer when we get there Smiley

You are starting to sound a bit like Adam with his $32k in 1-2 years that he was repeating in 2015, 2016 and into 2017 - except you are a bit more specifically timing yours for 6 months after the halvening, and it is appearing that $50k plus would be a bit more conservative for late 2020 or early 2021 than $32k would have been while Adam was predicting $32k for 2017-ish (but his time line seemed to keep changing, too). 

To me, the odds of your steadfast prediction of $50k plus happening within the timeline that you state seem pretty decent, which justifies putting a decent amount of stake into BTC (especially for those who are currently no coiners). 

I feel that I have always had a sufficient amount of coins into BTC for such a bull run (probably since late 2014), even though I have continued to stack BTC since after late 2014.

Let's say, for example, that some no coiner has $100k in total quasi-liquid investments, and I include 401k value in that calculation.  1% would be $1k into BTC, but $10k seems to be a bit of a stronger stake.. put up to 10% without having to leverage. 

I did something like that in 2014 with what ended up being more than 10% of my total quasi-liquid value, so the bull run in 2017 caused my BTC investments to become more valuable than all of my other investments, including my 401k, and even with the large price drop of BTC, the value of my BTC still is larger than all of the other quasi-liquid investments that I have.

We know that history does not exactly repeat itself with any kind of exact similar performance, but having decent odds of another nearly 14x increase in value ($50,000 / $3,600 = 13.89) seems like a good investment with good odds. Do your own research and your milage may vary.   Wink Wink

I remember Adam’s 32k predictions well, we will see his predictions come true but maybe not as soon as he wished/hoped.

What I do know is that yourself & I have HODLED through much, much harsher times than we’re currently witnessing. I’m still at over 15 times my total investment into bitcoin. I need to recalculate that though as I’ve been buying regularly since we went sub $6,000.

Jay, I think all of us here who are possibly now becoming seen as you said earlier ‘the latest bitcoin OG’s’ need to use this period of sideways price movement as a real, real opportunity to make sure we buy as much as we can before the next bull run.

The next bull run will make a massive fucking change to a lot of our lives. I’d imagine many of us will become millionaires then.

Here’s to the future Smiley

For some reason, I am spouting out a quite a bit more bullishness this time around, and I am not sure about what that means, exactly. 

I continue to believe that each of us has to prepare for both price directions and the negative scenarios.  So, I am not sure about how much doubling down here or going in deep here would be prudent because there continues to be this ongoing potential for other cryptos to drag down BTC (the froth and all). 

Certainly, each of us should be striving to prepare for both price directions, so I don't have any problem with guys and gal who might chose to engage in a bit of "overinvesting" at these price points, but there is also prudence in having some dry powder available, too.

Personally, I did a decent amount of accumulating of BTC in the last run down to $3,140, but I also did not buy as much as I would like too, because I tend to plan out my finances for 8 months or more into the future, so I had to slow down on some of my BTC purchasing and even trying to figure out at which price points I will be buying again.  Probably in the coming weeks I am going to reset my price points, and even figure out something down to lower price points, even though we might not go there.

A similar thing was true with me during a large part of 2015.  My BTC stash had grown relatively slowly during that whole period and a decent amount of my accumulation had taken place in 2014 (at then higher prices).

Since 2015, Bitcoin has gone from 6 years old to 10 years old, so there is some Lindy effect value in that, too.  Nothing is really broken in bitcoin, and in a lot of ways with segwit, lightning and really the decent assessment of failure of the various forks (such as bcash)  and alt coin attack vectors (such as ethereum and its various scam appendages), so with all of those kinds of positive fundamentals - including that bitcoin has not broken with any of its sound money aspects, I retain a kind of pent-up bullishness regarding the supra $50k scenario that you continue to mention.  At the same time, there remains a possible 1 year or more in which BTC could stagnate, and of course, there could be some attempt to hold off the bullrun or any sign of a bullrun for as long as possible, including going past the 2 year time line - yet as your presumption seems to suggest, there are likely going to be some hard incentives that are going to cause even the most powerful of bears an inability to keep BTC prices down, even if they throw vast amounts of fiat at it with their printing machines (and perhaps stable coins).  Anyhow, I like to be prepared for scenarios in either direction.. but understand that there remains a decent built in soundness of money and incentive structures in BTC that are going to be tough for the powers that be to keep down in the coming years which remains bullish for us HODLers and accumulators.
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