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March 18, 2015, 12:29:36 PM

is crypto done??  Huh


Sure we have lost $15 in a morning of course it is done, i am offloading my 0.2btc as we speak this is not going to be pretty. Next stop $220


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March 18, 2015, 12:30:02 PM

Funny how Jorge talks about "most people" like he has any kind of data.

As of last September there were less than 700'000 blockchain addresses with 0.1 BTC or more.  One would think that each bitcoin believer owns at least one such address.  While there are many exceptions, there are also many bitcoiners who own two or more such addresses; so, "one million" seems to be a generous estimate for the number of bitcoin believers.

I have no source for the number of people in the world who know enough about computing to understand Satoshi's paper or any of the alternative technical explanations about bitcoin, but they must be several million.  That includes any computer professional who understands what public key cryptography is supposed to do (even if he does not know the details of the algorithms).   Do you dispute that number?

As for another bit of evidence, I know at several dozen such people personally, including a couple of cryptography experts; and I have still to meet one who "believes in bitcoin".

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Meanwhile, I'm still waiting for a demonstration of "any kid with a laptop can double the bitcoins in circulation".

I explained how in that post; it is nothing new or complicated, it has happened a couple of times already, and is often proposed (incorrectly) as a defense of last resort against an "evil" mining majority.

The kid gets a copy of the software, makes some cosmetic change that clearly distinguishes messages of his clone from those of the original version after a certain block N, and lowers the difficulty by fiat in the clone after that block so that he can start mining  on his laptop.   After that block, presto, every bitcoin in existence gets a clone in the kid's chain, that can be accessed with the same keys and moved (spent, sold, etc.) independently of the original bitcoin. 

Whether bitcoiners will be aware of the existence of those "kidcoins", and will choose to use and/or mine them, is only a marketing problem, not a technical one...

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How are miners disincentivized from including lots of transactions? The amount of transactions has no effect on how hard a block is to solve. They are incentivized to pack the block with as many transactions with fees as they can.

A miner now earns ~7000 dollars for solving an empty block, and ~7025 dollars for packing as many transactions as will fit in it.  Larger blocks take slightly longer to propagate through the network, so the miner must consider whether those 25 dollars are worth the risk of losing the race just because of that handicap.

AFAIK, right now one can see many blocks being mined which are only partially full, while many transactions are pending in the queue.  Clearly, the current transaction fees are not enough of an incentive.

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[ Centralization of mining ] is not a problem central to bitcoin, it is a problem we've seen arise in oil, telecommunications (phone, cable & internet), banks, etc.

Indeed, and those historical examples are a strong argument for centralization of mining being inevitable.  But while centralization is bad in general, it is a fundamental problem for bitcoin, because "absence of a trusted third party or central controlling authority" was supposed to be the goal of the project.  As bitcoin gurus themselves concede, a mining company or cartel who has a comfortable majority of the hashpower can control the system, e.g. by starving miners who are not part of the cartel, freezing any account that the cartel feels like freezing, etc..  Right now, one must trust that the 4-5 largest miners will not use their power for "bad things"... 

The security of the bitcoin system is supposed t come not just from the technical features of the protocol, but mainly from the incentives that are assumed to convince the majority of the players to cooperate and protect it, rather than sabotage it.   That assumption is far from certain if a handful of companies has the majority of the hashpower.
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March 18, 2015, 12:50:44 PM

Everyone get a grip please! it is not $12m or 43k BTC! The reporting on this matter absolutely sucks. Multiple sources claiming Evo's wallet holding 43K coins. It doesn't, it currently holds 980BTC. Bitcoin media reporting is appallingly poor.
He probably just moved the coins to other addresses.

They didn't run away with 43k BTC.  That's the total received.  You guys are panicking over a dumbasses misinterpretation of the wallet transaction history.  FFS.
No. He says "eight figure profit".
43k BTC = $12M.

So it's at least 36k BTC minimum.

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/darknet-market-evolution-unreachable-funds-stolen/

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March 18, 2015, 12:57:49 PM

Was waiting for 355, but will take some profit now and wait for lower prices or a clear direction in the next week to take a clear position.

So far so good. Now what price to buy back in? Is it time?
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March 18, 2015, 01:00:02 PM

Any Whale Club members in here?  You made the news!

http://www.coindesk.com/inside-whale-club-the-trading-room-that-loves-bitcoin-price-declines/

I bet they caused this dumpage...
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March 18, 2015, 01:03:29 PM

Any Whale Club members in here?  You made the news!

http://www.coindesk.com/inside-whale-club-the-trading-room-that-loves-bitcoin-price-declines/

I bet they caused this dumpage...

Yeah I made the picture as well but I wont tell you my name Wink

Deffo didnt cause the dump though its been coming for a while, been tryna tell people for a couple of days. That hopium sure is a hell of a drug.
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March 18, 2015, 01:07:26 PM

Any Whale Club members in here?  You made the news!

http://www.coindesk.com/inside-whale-club-the-trading-room-that-loves-bitcoin-price-declines/

I bet they caused this dumpage...

Yeah I made the picture as well but I wont tell you my name Wink

Deffo didnt cause the dump though its been coming for a while, been tryna tell people for a couple of days. That hopium sure is a hell of a drug.

Don't think it was too stupid to bet on BTC going above $300 over the last week. USD swap rates were going up, price was resilient. I think that this will be just another bottom and a new support to build the rocket, don't you agree guys?
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March 18, 2015, 01:09:59 PM

The dump stopped at lineair bottom trendline
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March 18, 2015, 01:10:46 PM

Bitcoin actually super healthy. Everyone back in quick!!
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Cheesy awesome!
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March 18, 2015, 01:14:13 PM

Any Whale Club members in here?  You made the news!

http://www.coindesk.com/inside-whale-club-the-trading-room-that-loves-bitcoin-price-declines/

I bet they caused this dumpage...

Yeah I made the picture as well but I wont tell you my name Wink

Deffo didnt cause the dump though its been coming for a while, been tryna tell people for a couple of days. That hopium sure is a hell of a drug.

Don't think it was too stupid to bet on BTC going above $300 over the last week. USD swap rates were going up, price was resilient. I think that this will be just another bottom and a new support to build the rocket, don't you agree guys?

Or a continuation of the long term bear market we're in. Who knows yet.

All I know is I tried to help people out the last two days by telling them it was gonna drop and they can trade both sides but as per usual nobody listens here in permabull land.
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March 18, 2015, 01:18:53 PM

Was waiting for 355, but will take some profit now and wait for lower prices or a clear direction in the next week to take a clear position.

So far so good. Now what price to buy back in? Is it time?

Next support level is around $255, wait till the price goes there.
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March 18, 2015, 01:26:51 PM

Any Whale Club members in here?  You made the news!

http://www.coindesk.com/inside-whale-club-the-trading-room-that-loves-bitcoin-price-declines/

I bet they caused this dumpage...

Yeah I made the picture as well but I wont tell you my name Wink

Deffo didnt cause the dump though its been coming for a while, been tryna tell people for a couple of days. That hopium sure is a hell of a drug.

Yeah and perfectly timed with news of another bunch of coins supposedly stolen. I guess a broken clock is correct at least 2 times a day.
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March 18, 2015, 01:28:22 PM

Any Whale Club members in here?  You made the news!

http://www.coindesk.com/inside-whale-club-the-trading-room-that-loves-bitcoin-price-declines/

I bet they caused this dumpage...

Yeah I made the picture as well but I wont tell you my name Wink

Deffo didnt cause the dump though its been coming for a while, been tryna tell people for a couple of days. That hopium sure is a hell of a drug.

Don't think it was too stupid to bet on BTC going above $300 over the last week. USD swap rates were going up, price was resilient. I think that this will be just another bottom and a new support to build the rocket, don't you agree guys?

Or a continuation of the long term bear market we're in. Who knows yet.

All I know is I tried to help people out the last two days by telling them it was gonna drop and they can trade both sides but as per usual nobody listens here in permabull land.

But long-time bears got hurt as well during the last months' bull-run. Shorting only works as long as the market indeed goes down. Hindsight is always a wonderful thing. Even ibankbtc went long the other day, so there's that.
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March 18, 2015, 01:35:00 PM

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Yeah and perfectly timed with news of another bunch of coins supposedly stolen. I guess a broken clock is correct at least 2 times a day.

BTCunches of BTCitcoins are always stolen.  Like clockwork.  And who needs a clock to trade Bitcoin anyhow?  It's always time to sell.
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March 18, 2015, 01:35:31 PM

Just got margincalled on btcusd. Luckily I'm making some more BTC on 1broker!  Grin Grin Grin

Try it out: http://bit.ly/1Fv5gkj
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