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Question: When will bitcoin reach the top of this bull market (i.e. when will it moon)?
Topped at $13,880 in June - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2019 - 16 (10.3%)
H1 2020 - 29 (18.6%)
H2 2020 - 28 (17.9%)
H1 2021 - 12 (7.7%)
H2 2021 - 31 (19.9%)
H1 2022 - 6 (3.8%)
H2 2022 - 4 (2.6%)
H1 2023 - 0 (0%)
H2 2023 - 3 (1.9%)
2024 or Later - 15 (9.6%)
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April 10, 2015, 08:13:11 AM
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I like to read the bull vs. bear stories a lot. But for now stability is king.

No one wants to read this (because it is the blind spot of most market participants).

Next thing (around May) will be a slowly increasing price. As it still provides the "necessary" uncertainty for the current market situation. -> Bulls will be frightened to buy and sell and bears will be evermore frightened to short. Give this market some more time (months) to evolve.

ATM there is neither the need for a lower nor a higher price for the market to function well. Both doom and gloom have shortcomings we are not able to calculate in the price very well -> hence we stay where we are.

Edit: A possible intra-day flash crash including a fast recovery is totally possible at all times. This post is about beeing cautious, what the market wants vs. what market participants want.
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April 10, 2015, 08:35:35 AM

It's quiet in here, too quiet, has the troll's sausage fest ended already. I hope not. Or do they al go to sleep in sync?
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April 10, 2015, 08:58:36 AM

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April 10, 2015, 09:01:52 AM

This one is nice :



This analysis is on point. However, I don't like the long term trend it has projected. It could easily slip far below the yellow long term trendline.
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April 10, 2015, 09:05:44 AM

I am ready to sell if we go down under 236.
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April 10, 2015, 09:10:40 AM

I am ready to sell if we go down under 236.

It wouldn't wonder me if this is exactly what some people try to provoke. There is easy money to be made, when people sell at generally known thresholds.

I will be the one who buys your coins.  Cool
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April 10, 2015, 09:14:19 AM

I am ready to sell if we go down under 236.

It wouldn't wonder me if this is exactly what some people try to provoke. There is easy money to be made, when people sell at generally known thresholds.

I will be the one who buys your coins.  Cool

Buy them, i will buy back mine later, at a lower price. I am a perma holder for most of my stash. The coins i am going to sell are only 10% of my coins.
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April 10, 2015, 09:16:53 AM

I'll never understand why people sell on the way down.
It's the complete opposite of what a good trader does.
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April 10, 2015, 09:19:02 AM

I am ready to sell if we go down under 236.

It wouldn't wonder me if this is exactly what some people try to provoke. There is easy money to be made, when people sell at generally known thresholds.

I will be the one who buys your coins.  Cool

Buy them, i will buy back mine later, at a lower price. I am a perma holder for most of my stash. The coins i am going to sell are only 10% of my coins.

Who says I will sell them back to you Wink

Well, maybe it was somehow uncorrect to say I would buy your coins @$236. It is more a sign of my willingness to buy fresh coins. The lower the price, the higher my willingness to buy. As masterluc said long ago... Everything < $260 is buying zone (long-term).
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April 10, 2015, 09:19:57 AM

I'll never understand why people sell on the way down.
It's the complete opposite of what a good trader does.

You don't understand why people sell on the way down AND the value of your stash is inferior to what you invested. There is a link between the two things.
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April 10, 2015, 09:24:14 AM

I am ready to sell if we go down under 236.

It wouldn't wonder me if this is exactly what some people try to provoke. There is easy money to be made, when people sell at generally known thresholds.

I will be the one who buys your coins.  Cool

Buy them, i will buy back mine later, at a lower price. I am a perma holder for most of my stash. The coins i am going to sell are only 10% of my coins.

Who says I will sell them back to you Wink

Well, maybe it was somehow uncorrect to say I would buy your coins @$236. It is more a sign of my willingness to buy fresh coins. The lower the price, the higher my willingness to buy. As masterluc said long ago... Everything < $260 is buying zone (long-term).

I will not buy back them to you, i don't think you are stupid. But i think some other will sell at a lower price, because they will be forced to. If the support hold, i keep my coins.
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April 10, 2015, 09:31:30 AM

PayPal merchants can now accept Bitcoin?

Wow. That's news.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/321pb3/paypal_just_filed_this_document_to_the_sec/

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Key words here:

"....digital currencies such as Bitcoin..."

Chaps....world domination is upon us. Hold on to your beer (and the boobs).

PayPal doesn't have a mobile hardware phone offering, so while Apple Pay, Microsoft and Samsung all jump into mobile payments, PayPal needs to do something different.

Options.

1. Add Bitcoin and start pissing off Visa and MasterCard, and the above. That's not so bad for PayPal because it back's onto people's bank accounts. In theory PayPal could wipe out Coinbase, while also propelling Bitcoin into the mainstream.

2. PayPal could try to buy a hardware unit, if Blackberry wasn't such a basket case it could have been RIM. But why bother? PayPal is currently unique in that it connects to people's bank accounts. Until Apple, Microsoft and Samsung switch to doing this, PayPal and Bitcoin are a natural fit for PayPal's competitive advantage.

I'd be buying Bitcoin and PayPal stock at this point.

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April 10, 2015, 09:35:42 AM

PayPal merchants can now accept Bitcoin?

Wow. That's news.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/321pb3/paypal_just_filed_this_document_to_the_sec/

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Key words here:

"....digital currencies such as Bitcoin..."

Chaps....world domination is upon us. Hold on to your beer (and the boobs).

PayPal doesn't have a mobile hardware phone offering, so while Apple Pay, Microsoft and Samsung all jump into mobile payments, PayPal needs to do something different.

Options.

1. Add Bitcoin and start pissing off Visa and MasterCard, and the above. That's not so bad for PayPal because it back's onto people's bank accounts. In theory PayPal could wipe out Coinbase, while also propelling Bitcoin into the mainstream.

2. PayPal could try to buy a hardware unit, if Blackberry wasn't such a basket case it could have been RIM. But why bother? PayPal is currently unique in that it connects to people's bank accounts. Until Apple, Microsoft and Samsung switch to doing this, PayPal and Bitcoin are a natural fit for PayPal's competitive advantage.

I'd be buying Bitcoin and PayPal stock at this point.



Well, that's awesome. BIT on Monday PLUS Paypal? The ultimate Bear trap is being settled... Am I the only one who sees where this is going?  Wink
PS: Options for h/w wallet: https://www.hardwarewallet.com/ - https://www.bitcointrezor.com/
PS2: They don't need one. Any phone with paypal app will do just fine...
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April 10, 2015, 09:38:25 AM

I'm sceptical.
BIT opening has been next week for about 3 weeks & these ebay/paypal announcements seem to be trotted out 2 or 3 times a year & fuck all happens.
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PayPal merchants can now accept Bitcoin?

Wow. That's news.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/321pb3/paypal_just_filed_this_document_to_the_sec/

edit

Key words here:

"....digital currencies such as Bitcoin..."

Chaps....world domination is upon us. Hold on to your beer (and the boobs).

PayPal doesn't have a mobile hardware phone offering, so while Apple Pay, Microsoft and Samsung all jump into mobile payments, PayPal needs to do something different.

Options.

1. Add Bitcoin and start pissing off Visa and MasterCard, and the above. That's not so bad for PayPal because it back's onto people's bank accounts. In theory PayPal could wipe out Coinbase, while also propelling Bitcoin into the mainstream.

2. PayPal could try to buy a hardware unit, if Blackberry wasn't such a basket case it could have been RIM. But why bother? PayPal is currently unique in that it connects to people's bank accounts. Until Apple, Microsoft and Samsung switch to doing this, PayPal and Bitcoin are a natural fit for PayPal's competitive advantage.

I'd be buying Bitcoin and PayPal stock at this point.



Well, that's awesome. BIT on Monday PLUS Paypal? The ultimate Bear trap is being settled... Am I the only one who sees where this is going?  Wink
PS: Options for h/w wallet: https://www.hardwarewallet.com/
PS2: They don't need one. Any phone with paypal app will do just fine...

Shorters will get burnt before the news. If this is real, rumor will get bitcoin to 300$ in less than 24 hours.
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April 10, 2015, 09:40:08 AM

PayPal merchants can now accept Bitcoin?

Wow. That's news.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/321pb3/paypal_just_filed_this_document_to_the_sec/

edit

Key words here:

"....digital currencies such as Bitcoin..."

Chaps....world domination is upon us. Hold on to your beer (and the boobs).

PayPal doesn't have a mobile hardware phone offering, so while Apple Pay, Microsoft and Samsung all jump into mobile payments, PayPal needs to do something different.

Options.

1. Add Bitcoin and start pissing off Visa and MasterCard, and the above. That's not so bad for PayPal because it back's onto people's bank accounts. In theory PayPal could wipe out Coinbase, while also propelling Bitcoin into the mainstream.

2. PayPal could try to buy a hardware unit, if Blackberry wasn't such a basket case it could have been RIM. But why bother? PayPal is currently unique in that it connects to people's bank accounts. Until Apple, Microsoft and Samsung switch to doing this, PayPal and Bitcoin are a natural fit for PayPal's competitive advantage.

I'd be buying Bitcoin and PayPal stock at this point.



Just jump onboard

https://www.paypal.com/webapps/mpp/accept-mobile-payments
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April 10, 2015, 09:41:03 AM

I'm sceptical.
BIT opening has been next week for about 3 weeks & these ebay/paypal announcements seem to be trotted out 2 or 3 times a year & fuck all happens.

That's the nature of regulators.

They move at glacial speed, and they have a big impact.
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April 10, 2015, 09:42:52 AM

I'm sceptical.
BIT opening has been next week for about 3 weeks & these ebay/paypal announcements seem to be trotted out 2 or 3 times a year & fuck all happens.

That's the nature of regulators.

They move at glacial speed, and they have a big impact.

Plus Gemini & the Winkledouches ETF.
I want some ******* good news.
Proper news, adoption.

Getting fed up of this bear market, if I wasn't fairly comfortable in life I'd have sold everything by now.
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April 10, 2015, 09:44:04 AM

PayPal merchants can now accept Bitcoin?

Wow. That's news.

http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/321pb3/paypal_just_filed_this_document_to_the_sec/

edit

Key words here:

"....digital currencies such as Bitcoin..."

Chaps....world domination is upon us. Hold on to your beer (and the boobs).

PayPal doesn't have a mobile hardware phone offering, so while Apple Pay, Microsoft and Samsung all jump into mobile payments, PayPal needs to do something different.

Options.

1. Add Bitcoin and start pissing off Visa and MasterCard, and the above. That's not so bad for PayPal because it back's onto people's bank accounts. In theory PayPal could wipe out Coinbase, while also propelling Bitcoin into the mainstream.

2. PayPal could try to buy a hardware unit, if Blackberry wasn't such a basket case it could have been RIM. But why bother? PayPal is currently unique in that it connects to people's bank accounts. Until Apple, Microsoft and Samsung switch to doing this, PayPal and Bitcoin are a natural fit for PayPal's competitive advantage.

I'd be buying Bitcoin and PayPal stock at this point.



Well, that's awesome. BIT on Monday PLUS Paypal? The ultimate Bear trap is being settled... Am I the only one who sees where this is going?  Wink
PS: Options for h/w wallet: https://www.hardwarewallet.com/
PS2: They don't need one. Any phone with paypal app will do just fine...

Shorters will get burnt before the news. If this is real, rumor will get bitcoin to 300$ in less than 24 hours.

Watch out for the unexpected side impact of Google entering the scene like a bull in a China shop.

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