Wall Observer BTC/USD - Bitcoin price movement tracking & discussion

[jbreher]

The Chinese govt will not divide us.....from silver going up

https://i.imgur.com/fVOJcSa.png

2.5% over six days?


.... ooooh....kaaay....

[r0ach]

The Chinese govt will not divide us.....from silver going up

https://i.imgur.com/fVOJcSa.png

isn't this altcoin pumping?

The funny part is that China has taken control of both the bitcoin and metals market.  The western bankers (like JP Morgan) kept trying to naked short silver down as low as they could but they were forced to stop by the Chinese when there was a $2 spread between the east and west with $15.80 US and $17.80 China.  Now they are reversing their attempts to dump silver because it's just not possible and it's all profits on the long  bull run up from here forth.

[marcus_of_augustus]

The Chinese govt will not divide us.....from silver going up

https://i.imgur.com/fVOJcSa.png

isn't this altcoin pumping?

The funny part is that China has taken control of both the bitcoin and metals market.  The western bankers (like JP Morgan) kept trying to naked short silver down as low as they could but they were forced to stop by the Chinese when there was a $2 spread between the east and west with $15.80 US and $17.80 China.  Now they are reversing their attempts to dump silver because it's just not possible and it's all profits on the long run up from here forth.

You just pretty much admitted that in a digital trading world silver and gold are just like altcoins .... and China made them their bitches.

But you didn't answer my question if silver boosting in here is the same as altcoin pumping?

[r0ach]

The Chinese govt will not divide us.....from silver going up

https://i.imgur.com/fVOJcSa.png

isn't this altcoin pumping?

The funny part is that China has taken control of both the bitcoin and metals market.  The western bankers (like JP Morgan) kept trying to naked short silver down as low as they could but they were forced to stop by the Chinese when there was a $2 spread between the east and west with $15.80 US and $17.80 China.  Now they are reversing their attempts to dump silver because it's just not possible and it's all profits on the long run up from here forth.

You just pretty much admitted that in a digital trading world silver and gold are just like altcoins .... and China made them their bitches.

But you didn't answer my question if silver boosting in here is the same as altcoin pumping?

Anything that doesn't compose the base of Exter's pyramid is a fucking altcoin.

(hint: bitcoin doesn't occupy the base of Exter's pyramid and never will because it's impossible for it to compete with metals as a store of value)

[marcus_of_augustus]

(hint: bitcoin doesn't occupy the base of Exter's pyramid and never will because it's impossible for it to compete with metals as a store of value)

all observational evidence to the contrary ... cognitive dissonance doesn't sit well on you r0ach.

[Karartma1]

I see we are going up again. PBOC together with OKCoin and Huobi will have to do something more to dump the price mmore than this. This is totally a trench warfare now. Only the strongest survive 

$970 by the way

[bitcoinvest]

I see we are going up again. PBOC together with OKCoin and Huobi will have to do something more to dump the price mmore than this. This is totally a trench warfare now. Only the strongest survive 

$970 by the way

i have  a strange feeling something will do indeed and is on the horizon i don't like the charts this moment... this up bounce is not strong

[JayJuanGee]

I see we are going up again. PBOC together with OKCoin and Huobi will have to do something more to dump the price mmore than this. This is totally a trench warfare now. Only the strongest survive  

$970 by the way

i have  a strange feeling something will do indeed and is on the horizon i don't like the charts this moment... this up bounce is not strong

What is your "strange feeling?"

What level of probabilities do you assign to up or down?


When you say that you are more inclined for down, are you influenced by your short (or your having had sold)  in your opinion?

I try to place my bets in both directions in order that I am neutral about either direction and to just judge the probabilities based on realities of the situation (rather than wishes or rather than positions that I may have taken), and it seems that there is a bit of tension to go up from here.. at least a bit of a upward bounce in the short term, no?

I mean we already experienced a considerable and intense increased volume attempting to push prices down.  Remember there where tens of thousands of coins dumped in a very short period of time in order to attempt to get prices to go down.  There were more than 13k coins dumped on Stamp alone in about 2 hours, and those attempts to dump and to drive prices down have only been so successful.  They have run into buying support and inabilities to get the prices to go lower, no?  , and there is a bit of pressure to go back up.. that is the sense that i am getting at the current time, as I type....

So maybe as I type I would place additional downwards at less likely than upwards.. maybe 45% or less for downwards, and 55% or more for upwards.. at least the short term. the next 1 to 3% of a price move in either direction.. of course further out, we may have a bit of a different dynamic that develops and we have to keep our ear to the situation (and yeah, we don't know if dumpers still have some coins in reserve that they are ready and willing to dump at these levels and based on current dynamics, even though it kind of seems that they may have used up a lot of their coins already, no?)

[bitebits]

http://seekingalpha.com/article/4044517-bitcoin-etf-approved-march-2017-black-swan-asymmetric-risk-reward

From the article. Interesting viewpoint of David Brill before the recent Chinese news.

It seems unlikely, among all the other reasons, that the commission is going to want to move forward with a product where the major trading is done on exchanges [in China] that may not be following our AML guidelines.

[rjclarke2000]

I'd love to read an argument between Stolfi and JJG. I bet they were Epic.

[bitebits]

I see we are going up again. PBOC together with OKCoin and Huobi will have to do something more to dump the price mmore than this. This is totally a trench warfare now. Only the strongest survive  

$970 by the way

i have  a strange feeling something will do indeed and is on the horizon i don't like the charts this moment... this up bounce is not strong

What is your "strange feeling?"
[...]

Not owning enough bitcoins with a rising price obviously  

[JayJuanGee]

I'd love to read an argument between Stolfi and JJG. I bet they were Epic.

hahahahaha

Those posts and back and forth arguments already exist in various places in the history in this thread... mostly in 2014, and perhaps parts of 2015 before Stolfi pretty much abanded posting in this thread.

The posts are not really very interesting.. but I do think that they tend to show that Stolfi pretty much avoids directly confronting about substantive issues, and remains pretty polite throughout his posts (for the most part), even when being attacked with foul language (from me and from others too).  

And over and over, Stolfi would tend to just stick with his spin and his talking points (in spite of evidence to the contrary).. he would continue to assert that bitcoin is a scam, ponzi scheme, insider job, on a downward trajectory likely to go to zero, is a pump and dump, refuge for pornsters, drug addicts and people trying to avoid the above board behaviors, etc. etc.  He would also present his various spin and biased evidence on an ongoing basis in a kind of scientific and academic way, which seemed to convince some people (but others would just keep calling him out as a bullshitter).

Sometimes, he would also just admit that he was a troll, and I suppose that there is some good in that.

[rjclarke2000]

I'd love to read an argument between Stolfi and JJG. I bet they were Epic.

hahahahaha

Those posts and back and forth arguments already exist in various places in the history in this thread... mostly in 2014, and perhaps parts of 2015 before Stolfi pretty much abanded posting in this thread.

The posts are not really very interesting.. but I do think that they tend to show that Stolfi pretty much avoids directly confronting about substantive issues, and remains pretty polite throughout his posts (for the most part), even when being attacked with foul language (from me and from others too).  

And over and over, Stolfi would tend to just stick with his spin and his talking points (in spite of evidence to the contrary).. he would continue to assert that bitcoin is a scam, ponzi scheme, insider job, on a downward trajectory likely to go to zero, is a pump and dump, refuge for pornsters, drug addicts and people trying to avoid the above board behaviors, etc. etc.  He would also present his various spin and biased evidence on an ongoing basis in a kind of scientific and academic way, which seemed to convince some people (but others would just keep calling him out as a bullshitter).

Sometimes, he would also just admit that he was a troll, and I suppose that there is some good in that.

Yeah, well I was lurking here for many months before taking the plunge and joining here mid 2014. I seen your posts here and The Professors but not seen an argument. I bet they went on for days!! Ha h.

His posts pissed me off after a while. An educated (but incorrect) troll is not a good troll.

[bitcoinvest]

I see we are going up again. PBOC together with OKCoin and Huobi will have to do something more to dump the price mmore than this. This is totally a trench warfare now. Only the strongest survive  

$970 by the way

i have  a strange feeling something will do indeed and is on the horizon i don't like the charts this moment... this up bounce is not strong

What is your "strange feeling?"

What level of probabilities do you assign to up or down?


When you say that you are more inclined for down, are you influenced by your short (or your having had sold)  in your opinion?

I try to place my bets in both directions in order that I am neutral about either direction and to just judge the probabilities based on realities of the situation (rather than wishes or rather than positions that I may have taken), and it seems that there is a bit of tension to go up from here.. at least a bit of a upward bounce in the short term, no?

I mean we already experienced a considerable and intense increased volume attempting to push prices down.  Remember there where tens of thousands of coins dumped in a very short period of time in order to attempt to get prices to go down.  There were more than 13k coins dumped on Stamp alone in about 2 hours, and those attempts to dump and to drive prices down have only been so successful.  They have run into buying support and inabilities to get the prices to go lower, no?  , and there is a bit of pressure to go back up.. that is the sense that i am getting at the current time, as I type....

So maybe as I type I would place additional downwards at less likely than upwards.. maybe 45% or less for downwards, and 55% or more for upwards.. at least the short term. the next 1 to 3% of a price move in either direction.. of course further out, we may have a bit of a different dynamic that develops and we have to keep our ear to the situation (and yeah, we don't know if dumpers still have some coins in reserve that they are ready and willing to dump at these levels and based on current dynamics, even though it kind of seems that they may have used up a lot of their coins already, no?)

i am 50% 50% so what comes after will be the same result for me as before the 50% i sold at 950 euro kai bought back at 880 euro.
i have the feeling that more coins will be dumped at this level we are now. i can see that (not me....my feeeeeing ) happening tonight

[HI-TEC99]

Back to $1000 on Bitstamp already!

[bitebits]

▲▲
Bearstamp must be drunk: 1500 BTC bid @ USD 1000.


(Concern) trolls must be fed to survive.
▼▼

[gentlemand]

His posts pissed me off after a while. An educated (but incorrect) troll is not a good troll.

It wasn't his point of view that annoyed me, it was his complete and utter lack of interest in acknowledging any other point of view. When someone's that entrenched they should be given their own forum so they can talk to themselves as no one else has anything to offer them.

[rjclarke2000]

His posts pissed me off after a while. An educated (but incorrect) troll is not a good troll.

It wasn't his point of view that annoyed me, it was his complete and utter lack of interest in acknowledging any other point of view. When someone's that entrenched they should be given their own forum so they can talk to themselves as no one else has anything to offer them.

He was "above" all of you. Did you not know that? Dear dear

[gentlemand]

He was "above" all of you. Did you not know that? Dear dear

Ah. Fair enough. I left school at 16 so I'm not worthy to receive his edicts from on high. I'd still give him a nipple cripple if I ever met him for using up my valuable bandwidth with his endless dribbling.

[lemmyK]

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2017-02-10/cash-no-longer-king-europe-accelerates-move-begin-elimination-paper-money
Please remove jerk like juangaypedo 
bitcoin price is in the hands of chinese!!  .. I miss here  those people who will be predicted on price of BT.  not just bla bla "arguments" ala chuj van 
juan chuj van - You do not tell US  arguments YOU just around babbling crap and get your mantra "argument" .