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[JayJuanGee]

"everyone hates segwit"?

nah mate.

ok segwit has the most "consensus", not everyone hates it, some poeple love it, but its not like it isn't contentious for a large %, if that wasn't true why would there be all this controversy... 

The mere fact that there is controversy does not mean that the controversy is valid.

If you got a bunch of nutjob shills that are able to convince others to whine about a bunch of stuff that seems to make sense (but really does not make sense) based on a bunch of misinformation, that still does not make the astro-turf controversy valid.

[Killerpotleaf]

Lowering the blocksize limit is nearly as dumb as raising the blocksize limit (and maybe even more dumber). 
Even if a smaller blocksize limit could be preferable, there is a certain amount of risk that comes with any change, even if the change happens to be preferable.   

no risk no reward.

bitcoin will fail if its unwilling to take any risks as it upgrades.

because there are 1000's of others perfectly willing to take on HUGE risks and try totally nutty things. and while most of them will fail, some won't.

[JayJuanGee]

Lowering the blocksize limit is nearly as dumb as raising the blocksize limit (and maybe even more dumber). 
Even if a smaller blocksize limit could be preferable, there is a certain amount of risk that comes with any change, even if the change happens to be preferable.   

no risk no reward.

bitcoin will fail if its unwilling to take any risks as it upgrades.

because there are 1000's of others perfectly willing to take on HUGE risks and try totally nutty things. and while most of them will fail, some won't.

Adam.  I like you and everything.  But you got this matter all wrong in your head if you believe that bitcoin needs to be able to adapt with the times.

Bitcoin is solid, "as is", and you do not want it to be easily changeable.  If bitcoin is easily changeable, then that means people can change it .. and who are those fucking people going to be?  NOT regular people or geeks.  They are going to be rich people, banksters and the ones who you do not want changing everything because they already screwed things up already.. and that's why we got our little friend bitcoin .. it is called decentralized and not easy to change (which is another way of saying immutable)... so let's try to keep this thingie-ma-jiggie censorship resistant, and not easy to change.

Regarding those 1,000 of others, let them change all the fuck they want.  The are not bitcoin, they are some centralized bank wanna be... and bitcoin is going to win the day in the end, especially if it continues to be difficult to change... and especially with already having a solid foundation.

[Killerpotleaf]

"everyone hates segwit"?

nah mate.

ok segwit has the most "consensus", not everyone hates it, some poeple love it, but its not like it isn't contentious for a large %, if that wasn't true why would there be all this controversy...  

The mere fact that there is controversy does not mean that the controversy is valid.

If you got a bunch of nutjob shills that are able to convince others to whine about a bunch of stuff that seems to make sense (but really does not make sense) based on a bunch of misinformation, that still does not make the astro-turf controversy valid.

and, just because somthing is contentious doesn't mean it isn't valid.

BU:


Classic:


Core:


which will the market value mostest

[Killerpotleaf]

Lowering the blocksize limit is nearly as dumb as raising the blocksize limit (and maybe even more dumber). 
Even if a smaller blocksize limit could be preferable, there is a certain amount of risk that comes with any change, even if the change happens to be preferable.   

no risk no reward.

bitcoin will fail if its unwilling to take any risks as it upgrades.

because there are 1000's of others perfectly willing to take on HUGE risks and try totally nutty things. and while most of them will fail, some won't.

Adam.  I like you and everything.  But you got this matter all wrong in your head if you believe that bitcoin needs to be able to adapt with the times.

Bitcoin is solid, "as is", and you do not want it to be easily changeable.  If bitcoin is easily changeable, then that means people can change it .. and who are those fucking people going to be?  NOT regular people or geeks.  They are going to be rich people, banksters and the ones who you do not want changing everything because they already screwed things up already.. and that's why we got our little friend bitcoin .. it is called decentralized and not easy to change (which is another way of saying immutable)... so let's try to keep this thingie-ma-jiggie censorship resistant, and not easy to change.

Regarding those 1,000 of others, let them change all the fuck they want.  The are not bitcoin, they are some centralized bank wanna be... and bitcoin is going to win the day in the end, especially if it continues to be difficult to change... and especially with already having a solid foundation.

i disagree...

i think bitcoin has become to hard to change and its going to die if we dont fix this soon!

we need a Bitcoin CEO! 



now i'm just trolling...

[JayJuanGee]

"everyone hates segwit"?

nah mate.

ok segwit has the most "consensus", not everyone hates it, some poeple love it, but its not like it isn't contentious for a large %, if that wasn't true why would there be all this controversy...  

The mere fact that there is controversy does not mean that the controversy is valid.

If you got a bunch of nutjob shills that are able to convince others to whine about a bunch of stuff that seems to make sense (but really does not make sense) based on a bunch of misinformation, that still does not make the astro-turf controversy valid.

and, just because somthing is contentious doesn't mean it isn't valid.

BU:


Classic:


Core:


which will the market value mostest

Your points in this post are so stupid ass that they are nearly funny.


Just trying to wrap my head around the pictures causes delusional sensations.  

[JayJuanGee]

Lowering the blocksize limit is nearly as dumb as raising the blocksize limit (and maybe even more dumber). 
Even if a smaller blocksize limit could be preferable, there is a certain amount of risk that comes with any change, even if the change happens to be preferable.   

no risk no reward.

bitcoin will fail if its unwilling to take any risks as it upgrades.

because there are 1000's of others perfectly willing to take on HUGE risks and try totally nutty things. and while most of them will fail, some won't.

Adam.  I like you and everything.  But you got this matter all wrong in your head if you believe that bitcoin needs to be able to adapt with the times.

Bitcoin is solid, "as is", and you do not want it to be easily changeable.  If bitcoin is easily changeable, then that means people can change it .. and who are those fucking people going to be?  NOT regular people or geeks.  They are going to be rich people, banksters and the ones who you do not want changing everything because they already screwed things up already.. and that's why we got our little friend bitcoin .. it is called decentralized and not easy to change (which is another way of saying immutable)... so let's try to keep this thingie-ma-jiggie censorship resistant, and not easy to change.

Regarding those 1,000 of others, let them change all the fuck they want.  The are not bitcoin, they are some centralized bank wanna be... and bitcoin is going to win the day in the end, especially if it continues to be difficult to change... and especially with already having a solid foundation.

i disagree...

i think bitcoin has become to hard to change and its going to die if we dont fix this soon!

In order to arrive at your above conclusion, you have to begin with the premise that bitcoin is broken...

And, you know what?  your premise is wrong.  Bitcoin is not broken. 

Even if bitcoin stays the same forever, bitcoin is still going to have considerable value, "as is"

We all know that there is way too much interest in bitcoin, and it is NOT going to stay the same forever, but the idea remains the same, bitcoin is not broken in its current state... contrary to the various assertions of the FUDsters - including KillerPot   

[numismatist]

Kraken showing weakest tendencies during last day. That's a small marker where the support is strongest at the moment, or not since Kraken is mostly the EUR gateway into BTC. You can watch BTCe to get a sense of RUB interests.
"Reading" fakevolume CNY sites I have given up on.

[Killerpotleaf]

Kraken showing weakest tendencies during last day. That's a small marker where the support is strongest at the moment, or not since Kraken is mostly the EUR gateway into BTC. You can watch BTCe to get a sense of RUB interests.
"Reading" fakevolume CNY sites I have given up on.

fuck chain watch japan.

[york780]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

[bitjanja]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

[york780]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

[stereotype]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

Thats probably the point he was making. 

[york780]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

Thats probably the point he was making. 

He is making some ''points'' and i keep on winning. Seems fair to me. He must be fun at parties, i couldnt care less.

[droizs]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

Thats probably the point he was making. 

He is making some ''points'' and i keep on winning. Seems fair to me. He must be fun at parties, i couldnt care less.

Dude... You're trying too hard, slow down

[york780]

Funny that some people around here are looking into my posts too see if i hodl or doing something else. Market is changing fast, so i have to change with it or got rekt. Anyway looks like my consolidation zone is still kickin lol. When people are looking to my graphs they can see what i mean. Well its time for some more altcoins i guess.

so who da fuk are you  

nobody is looking at nothing from you man, you are nobody. dont get too excited

 


so tired to reading 99,99999999% crap on this forum

Thats right. The small minority of 00,0000001% thats not saying crap includes me. Lots of people are looking at them like they are nobody. I think that your message doesnt have any added value to this discussion. Go home and get your shinebox. Nobody cares.

Thats probably the point he was making. 

He is making some ''points'' and i keep on winning. Seems fair to me. He must be fun at parties, i couldnt care less.

Dude... You're trying too hard, slow down

You cant try too hard. Just push furhter.

[r0ach]

When you become a stone cold trading psycho, that's when the real profits roll in.

[york780]

When you become a stone cold trading psycho, that's when the real profits roll in.

[Unacceptable]

"everyone hates segwit"?

nah mate.

ok segwit has the most "consensus", not everyone hates it, some poeple love it, but its not like it isn't contentious for a large %, if that wasn't true why would there be all this controversy...  

The mere fact that there is controversy does not mean that the controversy is valid.

If you got a bunch of nutjob shills that are able to convince others to whine about a bunch of stuff that seems to make sense (but really does not make sense) based on a bunch of misinformation, that still does not make the astro-turf controversy valid.

Bullshit,what we have here is:



By the way Jay,in case you didn't notice BITCOIN IS ALREADY CENTRALIZED!!!!!!!!

How much hashrate do you little peons have?? 20%  30% I don't think that will effect ANY changes in Bitcoin 

[Arcteryx]

Made me smile  .

At least check this out: https://grayscale.co/ethereum-investment-trust/

I think it has a much higher chance of approval than a bitcoin ETF.
Its just starting

It looks like similar wording to the existing GBTC in which case they don't need the SEC and it will happen. A nice asset for the space. It never really set Bitcoin on fire though, perhaps it'll do more for ETC.

You are right. Because of its small marketcap it is already rising very fast because of the hype. When there is a ETC ETF it will moon bigtime. It feels like Ethereum in its early days. First just a small thing, nobody cared about it. After that lots of other coins join the Ether chain, smart contracts started and it became a real crypto platform. Etc looks like a ugly little brother of Ethereum but when you can actually use it for something like a ETF it finaly gets a purpose and it will go moon.

BTC = store of value, the crypto king, ETH= crypto smart contract platform with tokens , ETC= ETF crypto coin   Would be awesome if you ask me.

This would be the best thing for both sides and I can see it happening for Ethereum to have an ETF.
It already had the split of chains happened so that is out of the way for speculators to say that bitcoin is still in a volatile state right now with all this Bitcoin unlimited business still looming on their minds.
And in a way this can take Ethereum on it's own path away from being just known as a alternative to bitcoin but on it's own as a tool to the smart contracting that they want to promote it as.
This would solidify it as a true business minded platform that all the banks want it to be so they can start using it. They will then all have a sense of "control" of where this cryptocurrency is to be sculptured into for their own gains and purposes, unlike what they would have with the acceptance of bitcoin.
This is very thing the banking commission are known for with all their fees and charges(more profit more commission!) they impose on their clients and users everyday of the year.
That is infact a picture perfect marriage in paradise if they can tie an ETF to ETH and have ETC to distribute their clients money conversions on a daily basis.
I think that was their plan all along.
Anyone else notice the SEC looked as if they didn't give any thought about their decision to let bitcoin have an ETF. As if they knew all along they were going to reject it even if it was presented to them.
They held the original day of the decision on it over the weekend!
So that right there tells you they didn't put even a thought into having it pass in the first place.