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[r0ach]

Free speech in the US is kind of weird (in my personal opinion). I live in germany. We have free speech too

Lol, no.  Neither nation has free speech:

http://steemit.com/politics/@r0achtheunsavory/the-alt-right-didn-t-land-on-tel-aviv-tel-aviv-landed-on-us

And while they prevent free speech from occuring, they attempt to flood 1st world white nations with 3rd world invaders because all homogeneous populations (such as Iceland did) eventually overthrow their usury banking parasites or kill them, so they flood the country with lots of different warring factions as a divide and conquer strategy so nobody can ever come together against your economic oppressors - Nash equilibrium by rapefugee invasion if you will.

These plans were all detailed 50 years ago to try and genocide white europe:

https://smashculturalmarxism.wordpress.com/2015/02/03/genocidal-kaufman-and-hooton-plans-for-germany-became-the-reality-for-all-of-western-europe/

[Elwar]

We have free speech too, it's simply part of our human rights. But we also have another very important rule: Your human rights end there, where you intersect the human rights of somebody else. Which to me is a really reasonable limitation.

Try giving the nazi salute or giving someone the middle finger in Germany and see how far that gets you.

[ghandi]

Like always, this is leading nowhere.

For the middle finger no one really cares as long as you don't show it to a policemen. But even then, the worst thing to happen is you paying 50€ for being rude to a policemen instead of beaing instantly executed for not following his orders.

And why the nazi salute is banned, may or may not be arguable (i think it's not). But still you can use it (and all other banned nazi symbols) as long as it art. So movies, theaters, etc. are still allowed to show Nazi-Flags and wear SS-Uniforms.

[fluidjax]

We have free speech too, it's simply part of our human rights. But we also have another very important rule: Your human rights end there, where you intersect the human rights of somebody else. Which to me is a really reasonable limitation.

Try giving the nazi salute or giving someone the middle finger in Germany and see how far that gets you.

The restriction on 'hate speech' is a disgusting infringement upon free speech, it brings a subjective definition to 'free' and allows governments to selectively stop free speech.
I don't see 1960's war movies which display hatred towards Hilter being tagged as hate movies, it's just a mechanism to justify a curtailment.

Much of what Roach says I disagree with, but I am happy that he can say what he thinks, for me, endless repetition may be a reason to put him on ignore, not his views.

[Elwar]

Like always, this is leading nowhere.

For the middle finger no one really cares as long as you don't show it to a policemen. But even then, the worst thing to happen is you paying 50€ for being rude to a policemen instead of beaing instantly executed for not following his orders.

Or when you're driving and the other driver reports you.

[aesma]

Germany is a democracy. The way they elect their parliament is 200% better than in the US, in Germany there is a real plurality of parties, and as long as you're not extremely marginal (as neo nazis would be anyway) then you get a seat in the parliament.

Yet, these small limitations on free speech are still there, simply because they're broadly accepted, not because a tyran imposed them.

[Denker]

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I live in germany. We have free speech too, it's simply part of our human rights.

I'm sorry to say it but you don't have free speech in Germany. If a refugee rapes a German girl journalists, newspapers, tv stations are not allowed to report such news. If they do so, they'll immediately be sent to jail for spreading religious and racial hatred.

I'm german as well and I can tell you if you speak out what's going on here, the left idiots and their media will start to jump on you immediately. Free speech here is a joke. Yesterday Merkel was not very much welcomed by a crowd of people in a small town due to her ridiculous politics. Guess what the media did? All the people are "supporters of the right", dumb as fuck and so on.
This is the reality here! If you speak behind closed doors with neighbours and people who leave the big cities due to a flood of migrants, you know what they really think. This will end pretty bad one day.
Ok enough of that off topic stuff.

Bitcoin taking a break at the moment. Let's see if we some more retracement. I think it's for some more correction. Might happen when SegWit is finally activated. I expect some choppy days.

[conspirosphere.tk]

Yet, these small limitations on free speech are still there, simply because they're broadly accepted, not because a tyran imposed them.

you don't get the concept of human right if you think that anything broadly accepted is legit.
But enjoy your political correctness you teutonic cucks. I'm sure that you will reap its rewards soon.

[Denker]

Germany is a democracy. The way they elect their parliament is 200% better than in the US, in Germany there is a real plurality of parties, and as long as you're not extremely marginal (as neo nazis would be anyway) then you get a seat in the parliament.

Yet, these small limitations on free speech are still there, simply because they're broadly accepted, not because a tyran imposed them.

The opposition here is a joke and doesn't really exist. All parties are in one boat more or less. The differences are marginal and not worth to mention.
Democracy may exist on the paper but not in real life anymore. Your voice and vote means sh**!
MSM is pure propaganda for Merkel and the EU idiots! Any critical voice gets attacked and silenced immediately!

[ghandi]

So let's accept we are all doomed and i little sheeple just await the end. This saves me a lot of otherwise lost time. See you there!

[aesma]

Yet, these small limitations on free speech are still there, simply because they're broadly accepted, not because a tyran imposed them.

you don't get the concept of human right if you think that anything broadly accepted is legit.

A bit like the 2nd amendment madness in the US ?

[Elwar]

So let's accept we are all doomed and i little sheeple just await the end. This saves me a lot of otherwise lost time. See you there!

Best thing to do is...

buy bitcoins and hodl!h

[Elwar]

I feel a weekend pump coming...will we push above $5k or is that going to be a tough one to push through?


On a different note I got a text from my sister of "wow, $4,400 that's amazing". I replied that I was pleased. She replied saying "you should start buying stuff".

I didn't really understand what she was talking about so I asked "like what?". Her response was "property"..."or a mansion".

I just told her I would rather retire than worry about stuff.

[Dakustaking76]

I feel a weekend pump coming...will we push above $5k or is that going to be a tough one to push through?


On a different note I got a text from my sister of "wow, $4,400 that's amazing". I replied that I was pleased. She replied saying "you should start buying stuff".

I didn't really understand what she was talking about so I asked "like what?". Her response was "property"..."or a mansion".

I just told her I would rather retire than worry about stuff.

Hm i think we Will see a correction slash dump.. the price isnt moving upwards
Its stuck in the range 3700€ The charts are Stanle But again we didnt brake upwards
I hope i am wrong

[gentlemand]

http://www.scmp.com/business/china-business/article/2107364/china-calls-rein-risks-surging-bitcoin-market

Hey look. It's another China 'ban' on the horizon.

[Torque]

On a different note I got a text from my sister of "wow, $4,400 that's amazing". I replied that I was pleased. She replied saying "you should start buying stuff".

I didn't really understand what she was talking about so I asked "like what?". Her response was "property"..."or a mansion".

I just told her I would rather retire than worry about stuff.

We have this mindset everywhere implanted within our sheeple, too. It's indoctrinated, brainwashed into them since birth by the state, and reinforced as they grow up through life. They see it in media, magazines, in entertainment, through social media. Through their friends, colleagues, family. The idea that "stuff" is the only thing that is going to make you happy in life, and at every single chance, you should look to acquire more of it. If you don't, you are falling behind compared to everyone around you.

Because the state knows that 70% of the entire U.S. GDP is all consumption of stuff.  If consumption stops, the U.S. economy completely collapses. So they need you to buy buy buy crap, esp. crap you don't really need. God forbid that you stop buying crap, and actually try to save for the future. Oh no, the state doesn't want that. Can't have that. They want you to just consume stuff your entire miserable life, and die as you came into this world: with nothing. No estate or generational wealth for you.

Well, unless you are the 1% that is. For them the "consumption" rules and pressure don't really apply.

[r0ach]

So let's accept we are all doomed and i little sheeple just await the end. This saves me a lot of otherwise lost time. See you there!

Nobody is doomed, we just repeat ww2 all over again as nationalists vs the international marxist jews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFIuATI0558

As you can see in that short video, history has repeated itself exactly because the marxists jews won ww2 and enacted all of the exact same actions over again, forming a state within a state and monopolies in media and finance (and govt by proxy) through nepotism to the detriment of the native inhabitants to try and rule over them as slaves.  This is engrained in their make believe talmudic doctrine that you are "goyim" slaves and they are the "chosen ones" to rule over you. If anyone attempts to enslave you, it's perfectly reasonable to defend yourself and expel them.

Just like Hitler said "are you willing to be plundered?", and the answer is no.  There are no "everyone wins" choices in this.  Most famous leaders through history had to make many Machiavellian choices where lots of people lose. Hitler is framed as the most "evil" leader, when in reality, people like Caesar were probably more brutal; yet nobody demonizes Caesar because...the Gauls Caesar fought don't control the media to use as their personal propaganda outlet, but the people Hitler fought do.

[ErisDiscordia]

On a different note I got a text from my sister of "wow, $4,400 that's amazing". I replied that I was pleased. She replied saying "you should start buying stuff".

I didn't really understand what she was talking about so I asked "like what?". Her response was "property"..."or a mansion".

I just told her I would rather retire than worry about stuff.

We have this mindset everywhere implanted within our sheeple, too. It's indoctrinated, brainwashed into them since birth by the state, and reinforced as they grow up through life. They see it in media, magazines, through social media. Through their friends, colleagues, family. The idea that "stuff" is the only thing that is going to make you happy in life, and at every single chance, you should look to acquire more of it. If you don't, you are falling behind.

Because the state knows that 70% of the entire U.S. GDP is all consumption of stuff.  If consumption stops, the U.S. economy completely collapses. So they need you to buy buy buy crap, esp. crap you don't really need. God forbid that you stop buying crap, and actually try to save for the future. Oh no, the state doesn't want that. Can't have that. They want you to just consume stuff your entire miserable life, and die as you came into this world: poor. No estate or generational wealth for you. Well, unless you are the 1% that is.

It seems though that the oligarchs of the coming deflationary crypto-economy are largely free of this consumerist mindset. Makes me hopeful for the future - having large numbers of wealthy individuals concerned more about sponsoring models of a sustainable society as opposed to flaunting personal material wealth is a step in the right direction!

Even though I do see the odd "I'll buy a Lambo when BTC hits xx$ price" but it is the responsibility of the community to create a culture in which this kind of behavior will be frowned upon and denigrated as backwards. We shall pay no respects to this kind of behavior - quite the opposite!

[aesma]

Real estate isn't really "stuff".

If I had thousands of BTC I would definitely sell some to buy a couple of apartments. Sure I will lose the opportunity of BTC going higher for those coins, but at the same time I would protect my future.

[aesma]

So let's accept we are all doomed and i little sheeple just await the end. This saves me a lot of otherwise lost time. See you there!

Nobody is doomed, we just repeat ww2 all over again as nationalists vs the international marxist jews:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFIuATI0558

As you can see in that short video, history has repeated itself exactly because the marxists jews won ww2 and enacted all of the exact same actions over again, forming a state within a state and monopolies in media and finance (and govt by proxy) through nepotism to the detriment of the native inhabitants to try and rule over them as slaves.  This is engrained in their make believe talmudic doctrine that you are "goyim" slaves and they are the "chosen ones" to rule over you. If anyone attempts to enslave you, it's perfectly reasonable to defend yourself and expel them.

Just like Hitler said "are you willing to be plundered?", and the answer is no.  There are no "everyone wins" choices in this.  Most famous leaders through history had to make many Machiavellian choices where lots of people lose. Hitler is framed as the most "evil" leader, when in reality, people like Caesar were probably more brutal; yet nobody demonizes Caesar because...the Gauls Caesar fought don't control the media to use as their personal propaganda outlet, but the people Hitler fought do.

Jews didn't attack Hitler. Hitler invaded countries.