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Question: How far will this leg take us?
$110K - 9 (8.3%)
$120K - 19 (17.6%)
$130K - 17 (15.7%)
$140K - 9 (8.3%)
$150K - 19 (17.6%)
$160K - 2 (1.9%)
$170K+ - 33 (30.6%)
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August 18, 2017, 08:00:26 PM

Looks like i failed to buy the dip  Cry
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August 18, 2017, 08:01:17 PM

I'm trying to work that out with my accountant now. Wanted to dump all my BCH to pay off a mortgage and he's trying to wrap his head around the cost-basis and tax implications.

Do you think that if you traded your BCH for BTC... and your BTC would appreciate more each year than the interest on your loan.... ?

Some rhetoric in there. Wink

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August 18, 2017, 08:02:56 PM

I've just come here to say I am in love with Salma Hayek

yes that is a good point! i feel many in this community would like to spend from 1 minute with her up to all life Smiley

Does she accept BCH?
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August 18, 2017, 08:03:29 PM

Has anyone considered the tax implications of now involuntarily owning BCH?

I'm trying to work that out with my accountant now. Wanted to dump all my BCH to pay off a mortgage and he's trying to wrap his head around the cost-basis and tax implications.

I'm thinking they will treat it as if you mined it on the day the chain split. In other words, you will owe capital gains on the value of BCH the day it was created whether you cash it out or not.
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August 18, 2017, 08:05:24 PM

I've just come here to say I am in love with Salma Hayek

yes that is a good point! i feel many in this community would like to spend from 1 minute with her up to all life Smiley

Not bad for a 50-year-old MILF.

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August 18, 2017, 08:06:21 PM

I understand that miners mine for profit but what about idealism?

Plenty of idealism in the Bitcoin Cash camp. Both users and miners. How else can you explain the chain being extended through the dark days of loss-inducing mining relative to mining core?
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August 18, 2017, 08:06:41 PM

Has anyone considered the tax implications of now involuntarily owning BCH?

I'm trying to work that out with my accountant now. Wanted to dump all my BCH to pay off a mortgage and he's trying to wrap his head around the cost-basis and tax implications.

I'm thinking they will treat it as if you mined it on the day the chain split. In other words, you will owe capital gains on the value of BCH the day it was created whether you cash it out or not.

Pretty sure mined coins are taxed as regular income - not at the capital gains rate.
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August 18, 2017, 08:07:09 PM

Looks like i failed to buy the dip  Cry

It was just a warm-up stretch for a new ATH  Grin
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August 18, 2017, 08:09:27 PM

Has anyone considered the tax implications of now involuntarily owning BCH?

I'm trying to work that out with my accountant now. Wanted to dump all my BCH to pay off a mortgage and he's trying to wrap his head around the cost-basis and tax implications.

I'm thinking they will treat it as if you mined it on the day the chain split. In other words, you will owe capital gains on the value of BCH the day it was created whether you cash it out or not.

Pretty sure mined coins are taxed as regular income - not at the capital gains rate.


Good point, not like mining then but still capital gains.
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August 18, 2017, 08:09:37 PM

I've just come here to say I am in love with Salma Hayek

yes that is a good point! i feel many in this community would like to spend from 1 minute with her up to all life Smiley

Does she accept BCH?

She's married to a billionaire.
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August 18, 2017, 08:11:55 PM

I've just come here to say I am in love with Salma Hayek

I do like some T&A with my TA, 'tis true
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August 18, 2017, 08:12:14 PM

Has anyone considered the tax implications of now involuntarily owning BCH?

I'm trying to work that out with my accountant now. Wanted to dump all my BCH to pay off a mortgage and he's trying to wrap his head around the cost-basis and tax implications.

I'm thinking they will treat it as if you mined it on the day the chain split. In other words, you will owe capital gains on the value of BCH the day it was created whether you cash it out or not.

Pretty sure mined coins are taxed as regular income - not at the capital gains rate.


Good point, not like mining then but still capital gains.

I would imagine that coins "created" in any way at all would be considered exactly the same as mined coins, and taxed as normal income.  IANAL, that's just my best guess.


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August 18, 2017, 08:12:48 PM

In France the taxman doesn't care about tokens. Only when converted into fiat do you need to declare the money, then it's taken as regular income. Meaning there is no way to deduct what you have spent to get the coins, so it's not practical. I'm considering opening a fake company to go around that problem.
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August 18, 2017, 08:14:47 PM

Has anyone considered the tax implications of now involuntarily owning BCH?

None until you sell.
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August 18, 2017, 08:15:06 PM

I've just come here to say I am in love with Salma Hayek

yes that is a good point! i feel many in this community would like to spend from 1 minute with her up to all life Smiley

Does she accept BCH?

She's married to a billionaire.

Hence the reason she is always smiling in photos. Although her daughter has passed the age of 7 now, so pretty soon she'll file for divorce and take half his shit.
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August 18, 2017, 08:18:54 PM

Has anyone considered the tax implications of now involuntarily owning BCH?

I'm trying to work that out with my accountant now. Wanted to dump all my BCH to pay off a mortgage and he's trying to wrap his head around the cost-basis and tax implications.

I would say it's an extraordinary profit, and as such the cost is 0. You can argue otherwise -that it is part of your previously bought BTC- but I would avoid that complexity altogether.

You pay a 100% capital gains on whatever you get from it.
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August 18, 2017, 08:20:26 PM

Has anyone considered the tax implications of now involuntarily owning BCH?

None until you sell.

In the US, you owe taxes on the value when you receive it and then again if there are gains when you sell it.
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August 18, 2017, 08:20:55 PM

You pay a 100% capital gains on whatever you get from it.
Move to the Cayman islands and you pay 0% capital gains on it. I don't see why anyone would want to cash out anywhere else, or cash out at all for that matter. Just spend the coins.

Next time I take a look at bitcoinity, it better be back up to 43xx.
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August 18, 2017, 08:21:25 PM

I understand that miners mine for profit but what about idealism?

Plenty of idealism in the Bitcoin Cash camp. Both users and miners. How else can you explain the chain being extended through the dark days of loss-inducing mining relative to mining core?

Hey Jbreher, do you still own most of your stash in BTC? Do you really think this is good for your economical interests?
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August 18, 2017, 08:25:17 PM

You pay a 100% capital gains on whatever you get from it.
Move to the Cayman islands and you pay 0% capital gains on it. I don't see why anyone would want to cash out anywhere else, or cash out at all for that matter. Just spend the coins.

Next time I take a look at bitcoinity, it better be back up to 43xx.

Do you realise that "spending" the coins is a taxable event? Or are you just counting on they never figuring it out you did?
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