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December 18, 2017, 10:06:50 PM




Not sure this is true about capital gains and income taxes....Puerto Rico

but it damn sure got my attention!

https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/states-great-tax-breaks-retirees.html/10/


wow! (if true, damn unlikely...but wow!)

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December 18, 2017, 10:07:08 PM

If the "one digit per year" rate of increase in Bitcoin's price continues, then someone who now has X BTC, in December 2018 his/her coins will have the current value of XX BTC. And those who now have XX BTC, will end up with the current value of XXX BTC!

Many of us will achieve "wealthy" status!
Some will progress from "wealthy" to "rich" status!

Can you handle it?  Shocked

I’m going to give it a good go, fingers crossed.
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December 18, 2017, 10:17:53 PM

If the "one digit per year" rate of increase in Bitcoin's price continues, then someone who now has X BTC, in December 2018 his/her coins will have the current value of XX BTC. And those who now have XX BTC, will end up with the current value of XXX BTC!

Many of us will achieve "wealthy" status!
Some will progress from "wealthy" to "rich" status!

Can you handle it?  Shocked

I’m going to give it a good go, fingers crossed.

Litecoin Cash[FLO2USD] news just leaked they got Dennis Rodman to serve as CEO? Shocked weeeee ===>


https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_flo





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December 18, 2017, 10:35:51 PM




Not sure this is true about capital gains and income taxes....Puerto Rico

but it damn sure got my attention!

https://www.cheatsheet.com/money-career/states-great-tax-breaks-retirees.html/10/


wow! (if true, damn unlikely...but wow!)


Oh boy. Another potential target for retirement. Third country with no or negligible taxes for crypto investors.
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December 18, 2017, 10:38:24 PM

If the "one digit per year" rate of increase in Bitcoin's price continues, then someone who now has X BTC, in December 2018 his/her coins will have the current value of XX BTC. And those who now have XX BTC, will end up with the current value of XXX BTC!

Many of us will achieve "wealthy" status!
Some will progress from "wealthy" to "rich" status!

Can you handle it?  Shocked

I’m going to give it a good go, fingers crossed.

Litecoin Cash[FLO2USD] news just leaked they got Dennis Rodman to serve as CEO? Shocked weeeee ===>


https://poloniex.com/exchange#btc_flo



this is disturbing in so many ways, likely because I believe it is IS true, even w/o reading the above


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December 18, 2017, 10:53:49 PM

I don't know if anybody noticed it, but the price is just hovering around the WO thread page count. You should post more.


Warming up the engines prior to 23K launch.

brrrruuum!!!!  Image is screwed up


 Images larger than 2 Mb will not display.  I used a modified version of this animation a few pages back.  Feel free to use it instead.
Edit: found it
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December 18, 2017, 10:54:45 PM

My friends be like:




You have retarded friends.... Smiley ... I forced mine to buy 0.1 ... 0.05 ... etc... Cheesy Cheesy

At least they have a small piece of it and don't come begging at me when they are poor. Smiley
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December 18, 2017, 11:04:21 PM

These pumps are getting stupid, everything is going up by stupid amounts. BTC dominance is almost back into the 40s Sad

Do something bitcoin, please!
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December 18, 2017, 11:08:13 PM

As soon as the alts start to ease the tide will swing back to Bitcoin. But it will be a flood.
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December 18, 2017, 11:11:21 PM

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So hilarious and so true.   Cheesy
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December 18, 2017, 11:12:01 PM

My friends be like:




You have retarded friends.... Smiley ... I forced mine to buy 0.1 ... 0.05 ... etc... Cheesy Cheesy

At least they have a small piece of it and don't come begging at me when they are poor. Smiley
I tried, but almost all of my friends are pussies. I got exactly two of them to start and one only went in with monopoly money.
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December 18, 2017, 11:28:51 PM

Someone, early this morning, while I was sleeping, hacked into my main e-mail account. They then proceeded to change the password on my Gmail account, which tipped me off, by sending me a text. After I changed the password back on my main e-mail account, it had an e-mail with a code to change the password on my Facebook account too. I then learned that they changed the passwords on my Coinbase, my Bittrex and My Poloniex account. Fortunately, I have 2fa activated on all of them, so they didn't get shit. I guess the lesson learned is that I should use a different e-mail for each and every one of my online accounts. What a fucking pain in the ass.  Angry

How did they change your password on coinbase, bittrex and poloniex if you have 2FA enabled? Or you have it only for withdrawls?

ANyways, good to hear it didn't have bigger consequences.

You can reset the password without doing the 2fa. They just need the e-mail that you use. Just not get into the account afterword.


I lost some bitcoins in February due to e-mail hacking and phone porting, and funny that hackers may not know how many coins that you have, and from rumors, here, bones, you have claimed to be pretty poor in your bitcoin holdings - yet hackers do not necessarily know that.

So there are a few ways that we can become vulnerable, and the hackers are considering different ways to enter into accounts that have lesser levels of security... needless to say that I had taken several measures to improve my security, and I had some further attempts, but so far, none of the hacking attempts had been successful after February.. and I am not ruling out techniques that could be employed by hackers to break into account, so security continues to be an evolving question and something that we want to keep abreast of, and even while life happens, we do not want to create so much security or to end up losing our own access to our account that might not even had been caused by a hacker.
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December 18, 2017, 11:31:58 PM

Someone, early this morning, while I was sleeping, hacked into my main e-mail account. They then proceeded to change the password on my Gmail account, which tipped me off, by sending me a text. After I changed the password back on my main e-mail account, it had an e-mail with a code to change the password on my Facebook account too. I then learned that they changed the passwords on my Coinbase, my Bittrex and My Poloniex account. Fortunately, I have 2fa activated on all of them, so they didn't get shit. I guess the lesson learned is that I should use a different e-mail for each and every one of my online accounts. What a fucking pain in the ass.  Angry

How did they change your password on coinbase, bittrex and poloniex if you have 2FA enabled? Or you have it only for withdrawls?

ANyways, good to hear it didn't have bigger consequences.

You can reset the password without doing the 2fa. They just need the e-mail that you use. Just not get into the account afterword.


I lost some bitcoins in February due to e-mail hacking and phone porting, and funny that hackers may not know how many coins that you have, and from rumors, here, bones, you have claimed to be pretty poor in your bitcoin holdings - yet hackers do not necessarily know that.

So there are a few ways that we can become vulnerable, and the hackers are considering different ways to enter into accounts that have lesser levels of security... needless to say that I had taken several measures to improve my security, and I had some further attempts, but so far, none of the hacking attempts had been successful after February.. and I am not ruling out techniques that could be employed by hackers to break into account, so security continues to be an evolving question and something that we want to keep abreast of, and even while life happens, we do not want to create so much security or to end up losing our own access to our account that might not even had been caused by a hacker.
Locking myself out makes me more paranoid than hackers to be honest.
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December 18, 2017, 11:43:10 PM

Guys we are in the 18k/19k range. As someone who has been hodling since 2013 I still can not believe it. 5k seemed a dream. 1k I was dancing around the house!


Ok.... early retirement time, right?  I had posted earlier that BTC prices seem to be more than 3x-4x higher than my more bullish contemplated scenarios during mid-2016.. I was thinking $3-5K and then correcting down to $1k to $2k and then perhaps coming back up into the $3k to $5k scenario that would have taken most of 2017 and perhaps a large part of 2018 before going up thereafter.. so we are both 3-4x ahead of schedule (in my contemplations), we are also a year or a bit more a head of schedule...

This current playing out of the scenario is causing me to change some of my earlier plans and to move things up a bit and to take a few extra drastic measures to free up my time that were not reasonably within earlier contemplated possible scenarios.


Also known as (AKA)   a 3x to 4x equity cushion, that causes $1k to be less likely and even if $1k occurs, I will be o.k., but $1k is seeming less likely and even below $5k is seeming less likely, even though not outside of the realm of possible spike corrections.
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December 18, 2017, 11:47:17 PM

Guys we are in the 18k/19k range. As someone who has been hodling since 2013 I still can not believe it. 5k seemed a dream. 1k I was dancing around the house!


Ok.... early retirement time, right?  I had posted earlier that BTC prices seem to be more than 3x-4x higher than my more bullish contemplated scenarios during mid-2016.. I was thinking $3-5K and then correcting down to $1k to $2k and then perhaps coming back up into the $3k to $5k scenario that would have taken most of 2017 and perhaps a large part of 2018 before going up thereafter.. so we are both 3-4x ahead of schedule (in my contemplations), we are also a year or a bit more a head of schedule...

This current playing out of the scenario is causing me to change some of my earlier plans and to move things up a bit and to take a few extra drastic measures to free up my time that were not reasonably within earlier contemplated possible scenarios.


Also known as (AKA)   a 3x to 4x equity cushion, that causes $1k to be less likely and even if $1k occurs, I will be o.k., but $1k is seeming less likely and even below $5k is seeming less likely, even though not outside of the realm of possible spike corrections.

It'd take at least another doubling for me to start thinking about quitting my day job. And stranger things have happened.
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December 18, 2017, 11:51:57 PM

Someone, early this morning, while I was sleeping, hacked into my main e-mail account. They then proceeded to change the password on my Gmail account, which tipped me off, by sending me a text. After I changed the password back on my main e-mail account, it had an e-mail with a code to change the password on my Facebook account too. I then learned that they changed the passwords on my Coinbase, my Bittrex and My Poloniex account. Fortunately, I have 2fa activated on all of them, so they didn't get shit. I guess the lesson learned is that I should use a different e-mail for each and every one of my online accounts. What a fucking pain in the ass.  Angry

How did they change your password on coinbase, bittrex and poloniex if you have 2FA enabled? Or you have it only for withdrawls?

ANyways, good to hear it didn't have bigger consequences.

You can reset the password without doing the 2fa. They just need the e-mail that you use. Just not get into the account afterword.


I lost some bitcoins in February due to e-mail hacking and phone porting, and funny that hackers may not know how many coins that you have, and from rumors, here, bones, you have claimed to be pretty poor in your bitcoin holdings - yet hackers do not necessarily know that.

So there are a few ways that we can become vulnerable, and the hackers are considering different ways to enter into accounts that have lesser levels of security... needless to say that I had taken several measures to improve my security, and I had some further attempts, but so far, none of the hacking attempts had been successful after February.. and I am not ruling out techniques that could be employed by hackers to break into account, so security continues to be an evolving question and something that we want to keep abreast of, and even while life happens, we do not want to create so much security or to end up losing our own access to our account that might not even had been caused by a hacker.
Locking myself out makes me more paranoid than hackers to be honest.

Locking myself out used to be a concern of mine too. So I would never do the 2FA. What turned me off to 2FA was way back in the Paycoin scam. I was using Authy and somehow, GAW let something expire so I couldn't get the Authy to work to access their page to collect my meager 5 XPY. I eventually did figure out how to get it to work with Google Authenticator. After that, I never bothered. However, this year, as my meager holdings gained more value, I began to start using the 2FA again. My holdings may not be worth much, but it would be rather difficult to shrug off a theft of them. Even .005 BTC would smart.
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December 18, 2017, 11:52:35 PM

As soon as the alts start to ease the tide will swing back to Bitcoin. But it will be a flood.

Same as it ever was.
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December 18, 2017, 11:53:10 PM

It'd take at least another doubling for me to start thinking about quitting my day job. And stranger things have happened.

Wanna get there faster? Other investors will HATE you - http://yetanotherico.com/TokenAntelope.ai/First-solidty-powered-crypto-currency-for-furure-travelling-opportunities
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December 18, 2017, 11:54:38 PM

As soon as the alts start to ease the tide will swing back to Bitcoin. But it will be a flood.

Same as it ever was.

Let's hope that tide swings back soon.
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December 18, 2017, 11:56:21 PM


Thats also my plan. Smiley

All this has a bittersweet taste for me;  because I got into bitcoin just 1 week before i registered here..
more than 6 years since that time when i got my first coins,and  almost everything got wrong..    Embarrassed

but im still kicking and hoping for better times  Cheesy

Ouch, I think some people here, like Arklan, also started in 2011 and supposedly end up with barely anything.  But like Rosewater said, if Andreas Antonopoulos can end up with almost no bitcoin and only recently become debt free, then any bitcoiners can end up making wrong calls that eventually see most of their paper wealth evaporate (and that includes even the current semi-billionaire such as Roger Ver).
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