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December 19, 2013, 01:28:18 PM
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BTW, I am really amazed how can the price rise at this rate when Chinese can not deposit funds, and when you compare the price between USD exchanges and RMB exchanges there is at least $100 dfference, this only means that people understood the Chinese situation and they do not pay much attention anymore .....

Loaded showed up with a suitcase full of cash to buy all the cheap bitcoins in china

this is the problem with Bitcoin market today, it is still so small community that people gives so many fucks about single individuals, when the community grows even more and the buy support become larger, such individuals wont effect the price that much, because when they try to dump/manipulate the market there will be tons of investors waiting for a sweet entry.... and they will get burned trying to manipulate that they will just quit doing it...

i think manipulation will always exist in any market despite its size. if anything i think now it's easier to spot the manipulation and be able to use it to your advantage, i.e. when we have regulation and wall street coming in, manipulation will still exist, it will just be a lot harder for us to spot and use to our advantage.

anyway regarding what's going on right now, i think Loaded has/is buying all the cheap coins on btcchina and will dump them at gox/stamp soon enough for a fat profit - that's what i would do anyway.
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December 19, 2013, 01:29:41 PM
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So now we go down ?

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7438/9774761623_663bc3bb1d_z.jpg

DOWN WE GO!
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December 19, 2013, 01:34:41 PM
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Only tards hodl!
Pros sold 70min ago.

But you can still sell NOW!
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December 19, 2013, 01:35:16 PM
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Only tards hodl!
Pros sold 70min ago.

But you can still sell NOW!

would you bet on that ?
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Honeybadger!!!!!!!!!!!
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December 19, 2013, 01:36:31 PM
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I sold 13.21 GMT+1
Not all, but most of the stash I bought @ 350 Euro!
Exit price was 495 and 510 Euro. Sold a little bit before the top.

would you bet on that ?

I did the second I sold.


Just check my trades during this crash. My bets were not perfect. But good. Probably much better then most bulls did.
A few trades today are missing from today. Just copied the trades from another post of me.


19.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387441870054322] 9.00000000 BTC at 448.00000 €     
19.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387417908035556] 10.00000000 BTC at 390.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387395153217830] 0.50000000 BTC at 410.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390132804010] 7.00000000 BTC at 430.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390132717078] 5.00000000 BTC at 430.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390057781033] 5.00000000 BTC at 431.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390057718780] 5.00000000 BTC at 431.00100 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390057591483] 5.00000000 BTC at 432.40000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387356320137130] 25.00000000 BTC at 350.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387356170132528] 4.00000000 BTC at 355.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387355216294733] 0.50000000 BTC at 385.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387351393868533] 0.50000000 BTC at 415.00000 €     
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   BTC bought: [tid:1387350961088381] 0.50000000 BTC at 420.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387347034585935] 0.50000000 BTC at 450.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387344789830037] 0.50000000 BTC at 480.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387222956125198] 0.50000000 BTC at 520.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387221831675671] 0.50000000 BTC at 545.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387217858967904] 0.50000000 BTC at 570.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387215524804540] 0.50000000 BTC at 580.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387200630348396] 0.50000000 BTC at 595.00000 €     
12.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386865323449300] 1.00000000 BTC at 640.00000 €     
12.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386864804921430] 0.50000000 BTC at 620.00000 €     
11.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386792157699910] 0.50000000 BTC at 640.00000 €     
09.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386591132983586] 1.00000000 BTC at 672.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386433986016139] 0.50000000 BTC at 520.00000 €     
07.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386421435352976] 1.00000000 BTC at 565.10000 €     
07.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386417351363316] 1.0000000 BTC at 580.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386402918670357] 0.50000000 BTC at 420.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386401211337111] 0.50000000 BTC at 450.00000 €     
07.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386395453422274] 2.00000000 BTC at 543.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386382140361034] 0.50000000 BTC at 470.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386381925986143] 0.50000000 BTC at 490.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386381707377437] 0.50000000 BTC at 520.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386381413559365] 0.50000000 BTC at 540.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386380448739173] 0.50000000 BTC at 560.00000 €     
06.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386361861108041] 0.50000000 BTC at 645.00000 €     
06.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386360984085943] 0.50000000 BTC at 605.00000 €     
06.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386351387654922] 1.00000000 BTC at 716.00000 €     
06.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386351387406318] 1.00000000 BTC at 716.75000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386238021697268] 0.50000000 BTC at 680.00000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386237756725026] 0.50000000 BTC at 710.00000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386234018528919] 0.50000000 BTC at 760.00000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386233350220836] 0.50000000 BTC at 810.00000 €     
05.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386220839603339] 20.00000000 BTC at 895.00000 €     
03.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386075634733508] 13.00000000 BTC at 855.00000 €     
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December 19, 2013, 01:41:05 PM
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I sold 13.21 GMT+1
Not all, but most of the stash I bought @ 350 Euro!
Exit price was 495 and 510 Euro. Sold a little bit before the top.

would you bet on that ?

I did the second I sold.

I hope it will work out for you, always be prepared for surprises, this all what I learned from trading, I have beeen burned so many times that I've learned one big thing, Bitcoin is unpredictable and anything you try to do based on any analyze is pure speculation.....


many of "smart traders" here come and post where the price will head and whatnot... they have no clue... it is a total BS, this is all I can say, we all just speculate....
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December 19, 2013, 01:43:27 PM
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I sold 13.21 GMT+1
Not all, but most of the stash I bought @ 350 Euro!
Exit price was 495 and 510 Euro. Sold a little bit before the top.

would you bet on that ?

I did the second I sold.


Just check my trades during this crash. My bets were not perfect. But good. Probably much better then most bulls did.
A few trades today are missing from today. Just copied the trades from another post of me.


19.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387441870054322] 9.00000000 BTC at 448.00000 €     
19.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387417908035556] 10.00000000 BTC at 390.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387395153217830] 0.50000000 BTC at 410.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390132804010] 7.00000000 BTC at 430.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390132717078] 5.00000000 BTC at 430.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390057781033] 5.00000000 BTC at 431.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390057718780] 5.00000000 BTC at 431.00100 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390057591483] 5.00000000 BTC at 432.40000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387356320137130] 25.00000000 BTC at 350.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387356170132528] 4.00000000 BTC at 355.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387355216294733] 0.50000000 BTC at 385.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387351393868533] 0.50000000 BTC at 415.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387350961088381] 0.50000000 BTC at 420.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387347034585935] 0.50000000 BTC at 450.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387344789830037] 0.50000000 BTC at 480.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387222956125198] 0.50000000 BTC at 520.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387221831675671] 0.50000000 BTC at 545.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387217858967904] 0.50000000 BTC at 570.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387215524804540] 0.50000000 BTC at 580.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387200630348396] 0.50000000 BTC at 595.00000 €     
12.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386865323449300] 1.00000000 BTC at 640.00000 €     
12.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386864804921430] 0.50000000 BTC at 620.00000 €     
11.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386792157699910] 0.50000000 BTC at 640.00000 €     
09.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386591132983586] 1.00000000 BTC at 672.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386433986016139] 0.50000000 BTC at 520.00000 €     
07.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386421435352976] 1.00000000 BTC at 565.10000 €     
07.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386417351363316] 1.0000000 BTC at 580.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386402918670357] 0.50000000 BTC at 420.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386401211337111] 0.50000000 BTC at 450.00000 €     
07.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386395453422274] 2.00000000 BTC at 543.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386382140361034] 0.50000000 BTC at 470.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386381925986143] 0.50000000 BTC at 490.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386381707377437] 0.50000000 BTC at 520.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386381413559365] 0.50000000 BTC at 540.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386380448739173] 0.50000000 BTC at 560.00000 €     
06.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386361861108041] 0.50000000 BTC at 645.00000 €     
06.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386360984085943] 0.50000000 BTC at 605.00000 €     
06.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386351387654922] 1.00000000 BTC at 716.00000 €     
06.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386351387406318] 1.00000000 BTC at 716.75000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386238021697268] 0.50000000 BTC at 680.00000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386237756725026] 0.50000000 BTC at 710.00000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386234018528919] 0.50000000 BTC at 760.00000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386233350220836] 0.50000000 BTC at 810.00000 €     
05.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386220839603339] 20.00000000 BTC at 895.00000 €     
03.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386075634733508] 13.00000000 BTC at 855.00000 €     

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December 19, 2013, 01:49:06 PM
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was getting really worried there for a second when it was @ 670...

a broken spaceship can't possibly make it to the moon, let alone the sky!!!!
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December 19, 2013, 01:52:09 PM
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I sold 13.21 GMT+1
Not all, but most of the stash I bought @ 350 Euro!
Exit price was 495 and 510 Euro. Sold a little bit before the top.

would you bet on that ?

I did the second I sold.


Just check my trades during this crash. My bets were not perfect. But good. Probably much better then most bulls did.
A few trades today are missing from today. Just copied the trades from another post of me.


19.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387441870054322] 9.00000000 BTC at 448.00000 €     
19.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387417908035556] 10.00000000 BTC at 390.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387395153217830] 0.50000000 BTC at 410.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390132804010] 7.00000000 BTC at 430.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390132717078] 5.00000000 BTC at 430.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390057781033] 5.00000000 BTC at 431.00000 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390057718780] 5.00000000 BTC at 431.00100 €     
18.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1387390057591483] 5.00000000 BTC at 432.40000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387356320137130] 25.00000000 BTC at 350.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387356170132528] 4.00000000 BTC at 355.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387355216294733] 0.50000000 BTC at 385.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387351393868533] 0.50000000 BTC at 415.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387350961088381] 0.50000000 BTC at 420.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387347034585935] 0.50000000 BTC at 450.00000 €     
18.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387344789830037] 0.50000000 BTC at 480.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387222956125198] 0.50000000 BTC at 520.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387221831675671] 0.50000000 BTC at 545.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387217858967904] 0.50000000 BTC at 570.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387215524804540] 0.50000000 BTC at 580.00000 €     
16.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1387200630348396] 0.50000000 BTC at 595.00000 €     
12.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386865323449300] 1.00000000 BTC at 640.00000 €     
12.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386864804921430] 0.50000000 BTC at 620.00000 €     
11.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386792157699910] 0.50000000 BTC at 640.00000 €     
09.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386591132983586] 1.00000000 BTC at 672.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386433986016139] 0.50000000 BTC at 520.00000 €     
07.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386421435352976] 1.00000000 BTC at 565.10000 €     
07.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386417351363316] 1.0000000 BTC at 580.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386402918670357] 0.50000000 BTC at 420.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386401211337111] 0.50000000 BTC at 450.00000 €     
07.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386395453422274] 2.00000000 BTC at 543.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386382140361034] 0.50000000 BTC at 470.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386381925986143] 0.50000000 BTC at 490.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386381707377437] 0.50000000 BTC at 520.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386381413559365] 0.50000000 BTC at 540.00000 €     
07.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386380448739173] 0.50000000 BTC at 560.00000 €     
06.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386361861108041] 0.50000000 BTC at 645.00000 €     
06.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386360984085943] 0.50000000 BTC at 605.00000 €     
06.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386351387654922] 1.00000000 BTC at 716.00000 €     
06.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386351387406318] 1.00000000 BTC at 716.75000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386238021697268] 0.50000000 BTC at 680.00000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386237756725026] 0.50000000 BTC at 710.00000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386234018528919] 0.50000000 BTC at 760.00000 €     
05.12.2013   in     
   BTC bought: [tid:1386233350220836] 0.50000000 BTC at 810.00000 €     
05.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386220839603339] 20.00000000 BTC at 895.00000 €     
03.12.2013   out     
   BTC sold: [tid:1386075634733508] 13.00000000 BTC at 855.00000 €     

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December 19, 2013, 01:57:18 PM
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Every country tries to control the exchange rate of its own currency, e.g. to balance the interests of industries with domestic market that depend on imported materials versus those whose market is mostly overseas.

Bitcoin trade provides a way to bypass those controls, and usually results in transfer of actual wealth from some countries to others.  The latter will smile on Bitcoin trade, the former will move to stop it.

Right now it seems that the US is smiling while China is not.

Goodwill in the US may evaporate (as it did for Madoff's enterprise) if some large US player loses big on BTC trade. Until then, regulators will not be upset if a few whales become filthy rich at the expense of many small fish. Quite the opposite.
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December 19, 2013, 02:21:55 PM
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And we settle at 666 again. Wow so omen
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December 19, 2013, 02:33:50 PM
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holy... Bitstamp will over perform Mtgox not only by volume but soon by price as well.... Mtgox is trying to stay in the front so hard but is not addressing the one and most important issue "withdrawals" they are working on Midas Deposits implemnting LTC new OTP so many stuff that could wait but ignoring the most thing that people needs


but I have to admit users not being able to get cash out of gox helped Bitcoin price so much....
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December 19, 2013, 02:35:21 PM
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$700 today, $850 till the end of the week and then another breakdown. My dog told me that.
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December 19, 2013, 02:36:08 PM
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$700 today, $850 till the end of the week and then another breakdown. My dog told me that.

ask your dog what does the fox say ? than ask again what does gox say ?
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December 19, 2013, 02:37:25 PM
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holy... Bitstamp will over perform Mtgox not only by volume but soon by price as well.... Mtgox is trying to stay in the front so hard but is not addressing the one and most important issue "withdrawals" they are working on Midas Deposits implemnting LTC new OTP so many stuff that could wait but ignoring the most thing that people needs


but I have to admit users not being able to get cash out of gox helped Bitcoin price so much....

Its a good time for me to buy on Gox and dump on those stupid stampers. They are too hungry ! Grin
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December 19, 2013, 02:47:04 PM
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$700 today, $850 till the end of the week and then another breakdown. My dog told me that.

ask your dog what does the fox say ? than ask again what does gox say ?
Also, who the f*ck builds a Stonehenge?
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