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February 03, 2014, 09:06:09 PM
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Dow declining hard today -1.87%
Big question mark is, what will happen to bitcoin when the Dow finally takes the plunge!
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February 03, 2014, 09:10:00 PM
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Dow declining hard today -1.87% -2.08%
Big question mark is, what will happen to bitcoin when the Dow plunges!

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February 03, 2014, 09:25:57 PM
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Dow declining hard today -1.87% -2.08%
Big question mark is, what will happen to bitcoin when the Dow plunges!


http://www.nbcnews.com/business/stocks-fluctuate-ahead-manufacturing-report-2D12044713
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February 03, 2014, 09:37:34 PM
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   From a post on Reddit http://pastebin.com/v6g3XsZm it looks as a general attack against cryptomoney, not just Btc-e

    03.02.2014: Пpoкypaтypa г.Boлгoгpaдa
    Boзбyждeниe yгoлoвнoгo дeлa в oтнoшeнии интepнeт-pecypcoв, пpeдocтaвляющиx ycлyги oбмeнa т.н.
     
    Prosecutor of city of valgagrad
    starting criminal case concerning internet resource concerning services of currency exchange
     
   Пo мaтepиaлaм пpoкypopcкoй пpoвepки вoзбyждeнo yгoлoвнoe дeлo o мoшeнничecтвe (Cт. 159 УК PФ), лeгaлизaция (oтмывaнии) дeнeжныx cpeдcтв, пpиoбpeтeнныx дpyгими лицaми пpecтyпным пyтeм (Cт. 174 ч.2) в oтнoшeнии интepнeт-pecypcoв, пpeдocтaвляющиx ycлyги oбмeнa т.н. "виpтyaльныx вaлют”.
     
    The Material gathered by prosectors started a criminal case about fraud, and money laundering through the virtual barter.

    Maтepиaлы пpoвepки cвидeтeльcтвyют o нeзaкoннoм иcпoльзoвaнии т.н. "виpтyaльныx вaлют", включaющиe в ceбя пpoтивoдeйcтвиe лeгaлизaции дoxoдoв, мoшeнничecтвo, и финaнcиpoвaниe тeppopизмa. Пpoкypaтypa г. Boлгoгpaдa нaмepeнa xoдaтaйcтвoвaть o пpeкpaщeнии дocтyпa к pecypcaм, пpeдocтaвляющим ycлyги пo oбмeнy "виpтyaльныx вaлют", a тaкжe иx иcпoльзoвaнию. Пocтaвлeн вoпpoc oб yгoлoвнoм пpecлeдoвaнии юpидичecкиx и физичecкиx лиц, oкaзывaющиx дaнныe ycлyги.
     
    The material gathered show illegal use of virtual currency including money laundering, fraud, and financial terrorism. The prosecution of the city of valgagrad is planning to stop exchange, (so no more rubel to crypto) and the exchange of services or currency, and also the usage of crypto. They also are questioning if they should prosecute legal organizations, or just individuals who provide access to the currency. (so they’re saying if they’re deciding if they’re gonna throw Mr. smith selling his mined Bitcoin into jail, or just exchange operators like BTC-e guys (if they’re russian)
    B oтнoшeнии pядa pecypcoв пpoизвoдитcя пpoвepкa. Maтepиaлы пo чacти из ниx, a имeннo - btc-e.com и metabank.ru пepeдaны в Глaвнoe cлeдcтвeннoe yпpaвлeниe CК PФ.
     
    Concerning all the material gathered, and particularly BTC-e, they gave them to main prosecution of russian federation. (main office of russian federation)
     
    B ближaйшee вpeмя бyдeт пocтaвлeн вoпpoc o нaпpaвлeнии пpeдпиcaния в Pocкoмнaдзop для блoкиpoвки дaнныx интepнeт-pecypcoв c цeлью пpeдoтвpaщeния нoвыx пpaвoнapyшeний.
     
    very soon there will be a hearing discussing the the entire blocking of internet resources to get to bitcoin/crypto.
     
    Пpoвoдитcя дoпoлнитeльнaя пpoвepкa пo фaктy нapyшeния ФЗ oт 10.07.2002 N 86-ФЗ (peд. oт 28.12.2013) "O Цeнтpaльнoм бaнкe Poccийcкoй Фeдepaции (Бaнкe Poccии)" в oтнoшeнии юpидичecкиx лиц,  пpeдocтaвляющиx ycлyги кyпли-пpoдaжи "виpтyaльныx вaлют”.
     
    We also have under investigation the legality of virtual bartering and virtual currency (under that specific policy mentioned)
   
    Boзбyждeнo aдминиcтpaтивнoe пpoизвoдcтвo пo cт. 15.27. Heиcпoлнeниe тpeбoвaний зaкoнoдaтeльcтвa o пpoтивoдeйcтвии лeгaлизaции (oтмывaнию) дoxoдoв, пoлyчeнныx пpecтyпным пyтeм, и финaнcиpoвaнию тeppopизмa.
     
    there will also be administrative repremends, according to the 15.27 statue if someone is breaking that law about currency money laundering
     
    Paccлeдoвaниe дeлa взятo Boлгoгpaдcкoй гopoдcкoй пpoкypaтypoй нa кoнтpoль.
     
    The investigation is under the control of the city of volgagrad prosecutor.
     
    So basically this city is about to take action against anyone using any sort of crypto, whether its barter, purchase of the crypto, mining, or any nature of crypto.
     
    They are also working with the russian federation prosectors to take some sort of action against BTC-e, and are considering placing an internet firewall so that no one can access anything crypto related.
     
    Crypto will die in russia.




Looks ultra bullish  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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February 03, 2014, 09:37:44 PM
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Dow declining hard today -1.87%
Big question mark is, what will happen to bitcoin when the Dow finally takes the plunge!

up or UP!!!!!!!!!!!

that is the question

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February 03, 2014, 09:45:01 PM
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btc-e is actually in trouble, i would recommend to withdraw from there, i did
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February 03, 2014, 09:46:52 PM
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btc-e is actually in trouble, i would recommend to withdraw from there, i did

I hope you didn´t send your coins to Gox  Cheesy Grin
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February 03, 2014, 09:47:27 PM
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I guess it makes sense now why they started dropping 1 day ago, probably someone acting on insider news.
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February 03, 2014, 09:51:16 PM
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I guess it makes sense now why they started dropping 1 day ago, probably someone acting on insider news.

probably someone is spreading FUD here
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February 03, 2014, 09:51:47 PM
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btc-e is actually in trouble, i would recommend to withdraw from there, i did

I found I had a stash of namecoins that I bought in 2011.  
I had forgotten all about them until I was going through a backed up TrueCrypt volume and found a transaction hash.

I withdrew them last week.
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February 03, 2014, 09:56:48 PM
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I am trying to pull out small amounts from Gox, and it seems to be impossible either to CoinBase or to Blockchain wallet, any has a clue what is going on?
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February 03, 2014, 09:59:10 PM
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y'all been warned about gox repeatedly.  y'all saw the signals.  y'all been pointed at the signals over and over again.  very little sympathy will be obtained when you get wiped out.
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Dow declining hard today -1.87%
Big question mark is, what will happen to bitcoin when the Dow finally takes the plunge!

Good question... I have been wondering the same thing.... a scenario I see playing out....  if, no sorry, when there is a stock market crash, and people are panic selling in the stock markets etc and peoples trades are hitting margin calls and some need to liquidate trades to cover other trades, or just want to protect their capital then there is capital flight from anywhere that is perceived as high risk... to somewhere safer ...some of the usual culprits being the Swissy, Yen, or say even US T bonds, and the like... plenty of others but they are quite usual... quite often Gold and silver get a share of the capital flight, but even they get quite a rocky ride and sometimes the only thing people feel comfortable with is cash, cash is king as they say...  so how could Bitcoin fit in, tricky one to call as it has not ever had to endure a stock market crash... and I think that there are a fair few Bitcoiners that do not fit the usual "investor profile"  whilst there are no doubt a fair few people in Bitcoin that may want to cut their speculative positions  to say cover a margin call on a fx pair or on a stock, or for whatever reason but most people in Bitcoin I think at this stage would probably not fall into that category (certainly some, but not a huge percentage of people) but there could well be some larger holders that do have exposure elsewhere and have large sums in BTC that they may want to bring into a perceived safe harbour.. I imagine that during a stock crash, fear will be high, and so I would be shocked if we do not see some weak hands shaken out of the market, and also at this point in its development I would be surprised if Bitcoin received "safe harbour" status.... SO I am guessing that it all depends on how far the Dow drops... if it is mega, then I think we could see some considerable selling pressure on BTC, but I also think that whilst everyone else is panicking that there are a lot of Bitcoiners that will be ready and waiting, as they have been laying in wait for such a moment where they can buy up all of the cheap coins and so I guess Bitcoin will get hit but recover quickly, quicker than most other sections of the economy. Just my thoughts.. as for a figure I have no idea.

Also the DOW and other markets not just the DOW have been rocky(er) since mid of last week....  tick tock tick tock

Edit- oh and after the shitstorm has settled, then I imagine the stock crash creating more bullish sentiment for Bitcoin as long as it does not fall tooo far, and stay there toooo long...





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February 03, 2014, 10:02:05 PM
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when you get wiped out.

it's spelled goxxed and re-goxxed
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February 03, 2014, 10:02:37 PM
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February 03, 2014, 10:04:38 PM
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y'all been warned about gox repeatedly.  y'all saw the signals.  y'all been pointed at the signals over and over again.  very little sympathy will be obtained when you get wiped out.

The orders on the exchange are working perfectly, I just tried.

What do You suggest?
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February 03, 2014, 10:06:01 PM
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I am trying to pull out small amounts from Gox, and it seems to be impossible either to CoinBase or to Blockchain wallet, any has a clue what is going on?
You just got Goxed. Money goes in not out. How else could they stay in business if they let people have their money back?
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February 03, 2014, 10:08:49 PM
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I am trying to pull out small amounts from Gox, and it seems to be impossible either to CoinBase or to Blockchain wallet, any has a clue what is going on?
You just got Goxed. Money goes in not out. How else could they stay in business if they let people have their money back?

I just withdrew 0.2 BTC without an issue.
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February 03, 2014, 10:10:45 PM
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no significant movement on btc-e, so our russian+bulgarian+cypriotic friends not impressed of that fud

they understand all things correctly. It's normal and pretty usual for Russian businesses to be legally registered outside of fucking Pootie's house.

 There is not much difference about company jurisdiction. It`s not a big secret that btc-e owners/operators are russians, guess why russian LE are first one to pay attention to them with real legal case? Because they know it.
 Those news are really bad for btc-e. The case was started by prosecutors of Volgograd city where 2 terror acts taken place before the NY. Right after that we see pushing the law for limiting of anonymous payments which immediately caused huge losses to payment companies like QIWI (NASDAQ:QIWI) stock dropped 20%. Next we have a letter from russian central bank calling bitcoin a money surrogate and basically outlawing any kind of it`s exchange, noting that this might be suspected as financing of terrorism. The new legal case just take those words as a rule and now we have it. In Russia any mention of terror is being taken very seriously, so i have no doubt the idea is clear - they have to shutdown btc-e. I give alot of respect to those guys who operate this exchange that they are still keep working and didnt shutdown like metabank.ru did, but they are playing very dangerous games. If owners are captured, there is no guarantee that anyone will see their funds because the way they do business is illegal and there`s a big chance of seized coins/funds are being "lost" as it usually happens in Russia. I'm not about a spreading FUD here but those are all facts and country specific things you can confirm with anyone who did business in this country. I personally feel very disappointed about such actions taken place but this all gives a clear message that there`s no bright bitcoin story in Russia at least in nearest time.
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put this gox stuff in the gox thread please  Tongue
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