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February 06, 2014, 03:54:45 AM
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Altcoins are much better way to increase number of BTC than btc vs fiat trading.

When we talk about unrealized gains, yesterday was a third month when I cashed out like 5 BTC. That's how I decided to hedge and gain some realized profits - selling for 4-5k$ per month. It's quite enough to live more than comfortably and to spare at least half of that where I live.

other than the $4-$40 move in litecoin on btc-e, I haven't done well in altcoins. I just don't have the attention span to stay on top of so many competing bets. Kudos to you for being able to play that market.

As far as that "unrealized gains" thing, I have enough problems dealing with my current fiat income and where to put that. Gold? Silver? I have a little of both, but most of my disposable income tends to find it's way to the exchange to sit and wait to pounce.

I don't play them all to be honest and have bad trades from time to time. WDC right now look like one I'll get burned with, though I always had luck with it and got on the top on the end. But I had lot of luck and some nose to get in into some great altcoin/shares etc. trades that made me approx 50x more coins with 250x fiat value than my initial investment in March 2013. I usually lose money when trading btc vs usd though unless I catch some big crash, I don't know shit about charts and stuff.

Still don't have reinvesting problems though, I'm waiting for 2-3k$ per BTC to start cashing out bit more. I have a plan then definitely, it's real estate and a state telecom share that pays around 8% of dividend for years.

nice, I'm still in the makings of my plan. gonna need 20-30k$ per BTC to see mine play out, I just hope I have enough time....

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lol, I'd love to re-quote that with:

They're not laughing with you, they're laughing at you.


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WAKE THE FUCK UP PEOPLE!

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February 06, 2014, 04:00:09 AM
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Altcoins are much better way to increase number of BTC than btc vs fiat trading.

When we talk about unrealized gains, yesterday was a third month when I cashed out like 5 BTC. That's how I decided to hedge and gain some realized profits - selling for 4-5k$ per month. It's quite enough to live more than comfortably and to spare at least half of that where I live.

other than the $4-$40 move in litecoin on btc-e, I haven't done well in altcoins. I just don't have the attention span to stay on top of so many competing bets. Kudos to you for being able to play that market.

As far as that "unrealized gains" thing, I have enough problems dealing with my current fiat income and where to put that. Gold? Silver? I have a little of both, but most of my disposable income tends to find it's way to the exchange to sit and wait to pounce.

I don't play them all to be honest and have bad trades from time to time. WDC right now look like one I'll get burned with, though I always had luck with it and got on the top on the end. But I had lot of luck and some nose to get in into some great altcoin/shares etc. trades that made me approx 50x more coins with 250x fiat value than my initial investment in March 2013. I usually lose money when trading btc vs usd though unless I catch some big crash, I don't know shit about charts and stuff.

Still don't have reinvesting problems though, I'm waiting for 2-3k$ per BTC to start cashing out bit more. I have a plan then definitely, it's real estate and a state telecom share that pays around 8% of dividend for years.

nice, I'm still in the makings of my plan. gonna need 20-30k$ per BTC to see mine play out, I just hope I have enough time....

Uh, if we get there and you still have lot of coins, just buy a heck lot of real estate and rent the heck out of it. The easiest and sweetest money beside btc of course Cheesy

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February 06, 2014, 04:02:49 AM
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Explanation
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February 06, 2014, 04:05:48 AM
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NEWS FLASH: Apparently Apple pulled the Blockchain.info wallet app for iPhone/iPad from the AppStore.  

http://blog.blockchain.info/2014/02/06/blockchain-response-to-apple/

fuck apple, never buy anything from them and short their stock
fuck apple

Bitcoin bounty on epic Apple website/device hack?

nah, just ignore them, they will either have a turn of heart, or they will go away.

either apple *and the centralized power structures that rule our world* will win, or decentralized, consenus based social network blockchain-like organizations will take over.

bitcoin price will go up and down, and zero is always a possibility. but the genie is out of the bottle now, and the future looks turbulent.

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Altcoins are much better way to increase number of BTC than btc vs fiat trading.

When we talk about unrealized gains, yesterday was a third month when I cashed out like 5 BTC. That's how I decided to hedge and gain some realized profits - selling for 4-5k$ per month. It's quite enough to live more than comfortably and to spare at least half of that where I live.

other than the $4-$40 move in litecoin on btc-e, I haven't done well in altcoins. I just don't have the attention span to stay on top of so many competing bets. Kudos to you for being able to play that market.

As far as that "unrealized gains" thing, I have enough problems dealing with my current fiat income and where to put that. Gold? Silver? I have a little of both, but most of my disposable income tends to find it's way to the exchange to sit and wait to pounce.

I don't play them all to be honest and have bad trades from time to time. WDC right now look like one I'll get burned with, though I always had luck with it and got on the top on the end. But I had lot of luck and some nose to get in into some great altcoin/shares etc. trades that made me approx 50x more coins with 250x fiat value than my initial investment in March 2013. I usually lose money when trading btc vs usd though unless I catch some big crash, I don't know shit about charts and stuff.

Still don't have reinvesting problems though, I'm waiting for 2-3k$ per BTC to start cashing out bit more. I have a plan then definitely, it's real estate and a state telecom share that pays around 8% of dividend for years.

nice, I'm still in the makings of my plan. gonna need 20-30k$ per BTC to see mine play out, I just hope I have enough time....

Uh, if we get there and you still have lot of coins, just buy a heck lot of real estate and rent the heck out of it. The easiest and sweetest money beside btc of course Cheesy

plans include a 3.5 acre lot and the quarter section farm behind it... (*and possibly if things go really well, as many of the surrounding acreages as I can scoop up!  Cheesy *)

ahhhh, it's nice to dream.....

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February 06, 2014, 04:09:44 AM
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Mtgox $825 wall of 200 was just eaten alive by a 500 dump...  Undecided

Whoever can withdraw BTC on Mtgox is going to make some major $$$$$  Grin

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As amusing as that is, perhaps it also serves as a subtle reminder that if 'these types of people' really wanted to nail Bitcoin, it would so so easy for them to do it.

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February 06, 2014, 04:12:19 AM
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Could it be Gox fiat withdrawal is working? They did say a few weeks back they were working with a payment processing company.

This will explain why when Gox's price drops drastically, prices at other exchanges do not drop as much.

The gap is closing fast. I would not be surprised to see Gox making an announcement soon. Probably some insider already knew something.
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February 06, 2014, 04:14:44 AM
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Mtgox $825 wall of 200 was just eaten alive by a 500 dump...  Undecided

Whoever can withdraw BTC on Mtgox is going to make some major $$$$$  Grin

The days where 500 is called a dump... :O

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February 06, 2014, 04:15:12 AM
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NEWS FLASH: Apparently Apple pulled the Blockchain.info wallet app for iPhone/iPad from the AppStore.  

http://blog.blockchain.info/2014/02/06/blockchain-response-to-apple/

fuck apple, never buy anything from them and short their stock
fuck apple

Bitcoin bounty on epic Apple website/device hack?


Stop blaming Apple for the shortcomings of the bitcoin market!
Apple just wants to earn some $ and sell shiny telephones. Apple approves of Bitcoin in heart, because Apple also has a lot of support from cultish behavior and Apple has no problem with that.
Apple is just sad that if Apple won't remove blockchain.info app, then Ivan and Li Wei could threaten legal actions against their sales of shiny telephones. Apple is sorry, but Ivan and Li Wei bring Apple more $ then the ones that are loyal to bitcoin. Apple needs their $ to build even shinier telephones! Apple still hopes that they can be friends with bitcoin and is sorry that everything had to end like this. Sad
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February 06, 2014, 04:18:11 AM
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Bitfinex orderbook is wonky.  I'm showing highest bid $10,000 and lowest ask at $500 both with qty 0.
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February 06, 2014, 04:19:19 AM
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NEWS FLASH: Apparently Apple pulled the Blockchain.info wallet app for iPhone/iPad from the AppStore.  

http://blog.blockchain.info/2014/02/06/blockchain-response-to-apple/

fuck apple, never buy anything from them and short their stock
fuck apple

Bitcoin bounty on epic Apple website/device hack?


Stop blaming Apple for the shortcomings of the bitcoin market!
Apple just wants to earn some $ and sell shiny telephones. Apple approves of Bitcoin in heart, because Apple also has a lot of support from cultish behavior and Apple has no problem with that.
Apple is just sad that if Apple won't remove blockchain.info app, then Ivan and Li Wei could threaten legal actions against their sales of shiny telephones. Apple is sorry, but Ivan and Li Wei bring Apple more $ then the ones that are loyal to bitcoin. Apple needs their $ to build even shinier telephones! Apple still hopes that they can be friends with bitcoin and is sorry that everything had to end like that. Sad

you can still get the full blockchain.info app on Cydia if you have a jailbroken iphone.   I think it sucks that they removed blockchain.info from the app store, but that doesn't change the fact that they still have the easiest phone to operate.  They are all about the profits, and if something would cause smaller profits to them, of course they are going to take action to remove it...


 
 
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February 06, 2014, 04:19:28 AM
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That's it? Toothless bears can't move the price more than 2.5%? That's the problem with slinging FUD; Diminishing returns.  

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February 06, 2014, 04:26:49 AM
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How come there's only $50 difference between gox and stamp? Been around $200 diff for so long now
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February 06, 2014, 04:32:01 AM
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Altcoins are much better way to increase number of BTC than btc vs fiat trading.

When we talk about unrealized gains, yesterday was a third month when I cashed out like 5 BTC. That's how I decided to hedge and gain some realized profits - selling for 4-5k$ per month. It's quite enough to live more than comfortably and to spare at least half of that where I live.

Alt speculation is easier said than done. There are like 5-10 new altcoins per day so it's like watching a spinning roulette wheel. I have a little 3Mh/s scrypt rig (also serves as my office space heater) so I've been mining and playing with alts... between the greed, FUD, and pump & dumps I can't tell what's what. Everyone wants to be the next Satoshi.
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February 06, 2014, 04:32:16 AM
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As amusing as that is, perhaps it also serves as a subtle reminder that if 'these types of people' really wanted to nail Bitcoin, it would so so easy for them to do it.


Ah Mat, perhaps a subtle reminder that it will not be so easy to simply "nail" bitcoin. In its core design it is uncontrollable. A world without bitcoin *or something like it* will be a world without freedom. The price can do what it wants, but in the long term, this whole thing comes down to a binary outcome.

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February 06, 2014, 04:32:51 AM
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How come there's only $50 difference between gox and stamp? Been around $200 diff for so long now

Not only are Gox bux worth less than fed bux, but now gox btc is worth less than blockchain btc.
So diff closes.

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February 06, 2014, 04:38:01 AM
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How come there's only $50 difference between gox and stamp? Been around $200 diff for so long now

Not only are Gox bux worth less than fed bux, but now gox btc is worth less than blockchain btc.
So diff closes.

Yes, but what changed today? From what I've gathered it's been useless for quite some time now.
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February 06, 2014, 04:40:48 AM
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How come there's only $50 difference between gox and stamp? Been around $200 diff for so long now

Not only are Gox bux worth less than fed bux, but now gox btc is worth less than blockchain btc.
So diff closes.

Yes, but what changed today? From what I've gathered it's been useless for quite some time now.

I finally got my USD withdrawal and been arbitraging with everyone else.

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