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February 13, 2019, 01:31:18 AM

I know we're supposed to be capitulating. True story bro! Caught a glimpse of the future.
 I met a mid 20's Bitcoiner/robotics engineer out in the wild today. Very interesting chat and I felt the bull stirring again. He believes machines will use a digital currency (likely bitcoin) in the not so distant future once they start to move among us.  Shocked
About a 5-10 year horizon.  

I am fully capitulated. Good thing I still have patience.

Bitcoin self-selects for people with:

* Low time preference
* Long attention span
* Commitment
* Authenticity
* Patience
* Persistence
* Ability to focus
* Ability to go against the mainstream

Bitcoin is a marathon, not a sprint.

https://twitter.com/misir_mahmudov/status/1093613352868343809

(I have it saved and I read it when I'm capitulated like you. Cool)




That's so true. Thanks!
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February 13, 2019, 01:32:01 AM
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<...  With bigger than life characters fighting over limited resources while all trying to destroy one another. ...>

You had me at hello. Informative and thoughtful write up, if this is your own original commentary I salute you sir.

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holy motherfucking wall of text

jesus

+1 WOsMerit for saying what we were all thinking.

Grow the fuck up.


   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

+1 WOsMerit for superior use of a meme.

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Testing the upper edge of resistance now.
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Here's the original, he had it linked then later deleted it.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/BTCUSD/yJxv4CBa-A-Technician-s-Guide-to-340K-Bitcoin-Price-by-Dec-2021/



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February 13, 2019, 02:42:00 AM

I see you goyim are creating more retarded and nonsensical charts pretending the price is somehow guaranteed to go to infinity again.  Have you noticed these pump and dump charts all have the same thing in common?  They pretend there's some type of non-existent trend upwards at a 45 degree angle infinitely that doesn't exist?  Yes, such a chart might work if your unit of account is Venezeulan or Zimbabwe currency with a torrent of infinite supply, but not for a currency without hyperinflation.

If there's any type of trendline on this chart, it's definitely not a 'parabolic trav' trend to infinity at a 45 degree angle.  It's more like a smoothing of the curve like the red line below.  The white line he drew claiming the price is somehow guaranteed to go to $400k is completely nonsensical.  If the money supply in dollars doesn't expand drastically, it's entirely possible the nominal value of a bitcoin may have already peaked out.  Why would it go higher when transaction validators are designed to centralize giving bitcoin no reason to exist and no fundamentals in the first place?

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February 13, 2019, 03:12:16 AM

Why would it go higher when transaction validators are designed to centralize giving bitcoin no reason to exist and no fundamentals in the first place?

That's exactly why bitcoin exists, and why those centralized transaction validators exist. (plus all the stuff you normally mention about schelling points and metals.)

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More crypto drama



https://twitter.com/WhalePanda/status/1094518940083073025

And here's the truth: https://medium.com/@nikuhodai/dont-trust-the-dishonest-why-gox-rising-shouldn-t-be-taken-seriously-ffbaa1d21c86
(TL;DR: Brock Pierce is a lying POS)
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February 13, 2019, 03:37:55 AM

Your cryptocurrency prof didn't know that book? Your cryptocurrency professor at Stanford?
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February 13, 2019, 04:25:49 AM

[edited out]
(TL;DR: Brock Pierce is a lying POS)

Yep.. it is a bit of a low blow for Pierce to attempt to use Karpeles's status as fraudster and felon against him, by saying "you are about to go to prison" and "people should not trust Karpeles."   

Hopefully, we can soon put some of this GOX crap behind us, and hope that the bankrupcy court will close out the various claims of regular people....

It seems difficult to believe that the court is going to be able to find any more money in this matter, and if there is no more money to be found, it would be nice if the many GOX account holders could merely get paid their pro rata distribution and this chapter of Bitcoin's history could be mostly resolved and closed. 
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February 13, 2019, 04:34:14 AM


May or may not be true that the law professor never knew at all about the Saifedean book, and surely, the professor's perspective could still be filled with a lot of information in regards to case law without having had been exposed to the sound money angle - including Austrian economics...  

It is possible (and not even outrageous) that the student's bringing up the topic caused the professor to research further into the value of such sound money angle, and whether it might not distract from the other law related materials that are also included in the course, and find some relevancy and value to that additional reading.  

I have had plenty of college, myself, and frequently students have a hard time reading very many of the materials that are assigned and really attempting to reflect on such materials along with other courses and assignments that they have to juggle.
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February 13, 2019, 04:50:02 AM

Sending Bitcon with radio frequency Shocked

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Bitcoin and RF will indeed become more of a thing. Just FYI, that frequency 7.077 is at the lower end of the 40 meter ham band, for every country. You need a (minimal) test and license to transmit anything there. No license required to receive (anywhere, for that matter). Not that the FCC (for USA) will immediately come knocking at your door for doing this, but it's a bad idea in that spot, if you are unlicensed. Displayed is a 'waterfall display', common in programs like FLdigi, and several others.

Hams have been sending data over the air for decades with computers, but this is a new and interesting variant.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/40-meter_band

EDIT: I just checked and in the USA, with Technician (beginner) license, you are only allowed to use cw (international morse code) in that slice. You have to pass the next test for General to transmit data there.
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February 13, 2019, 05:57:07 AM

Regarding cheap prices:

Cheap prices are very good for distribution and distribution is very good for the next bull run.

Just have in perspective that this cheap prices right now is still 3x from the 2013 ath or over 23x from the 2015 low.
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February 13, 2019, 07:35:10 AM

Definition of cheap rate is very different in the context-time when someone bought his/her first Bitcoin. Ask those investors who got it during a bull run. they would love to grab some in the current scenario. its cheap for them.

I got in during China fud and the current price is almost the same as my monthly salary. not so cheap for me.
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February 13, 2019, 07:40:59 AM

Definition of cheap rate is very different in the context-time when someone bought his/her first Bitcoin. Ask those investors who got it during a bull run. they would love to grab some in the current scenario. its cheap for them.

I got in during China fud and the current price is almost the same as my monthly salary. not so cheap for me.


I would be very glad if my monthly salary were as much as 1 BTC.

... Yet I could buy half a BTC each month if I really wanted. You guys spend too much and/or save too little.

I have bought BTC for as little as 50€/btc in 2013 and for as much as 3000€/btc in 2017 (not counting trading, I of course had sells/buys on every possible price up to $19K but that is not "fresh" money for me).
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I would be very glad if my monthly salary were as much as 1 BTC.

... Yet I could buy half a BTC each month if I really wanted. You guys spend too much and/or save too little.

Recently bought an Apartment so very tight in terms of budget.

my first purchase came in 2017 as well when it was $3k. after that I didn't invest personally technically but started to accept my salary as a BTC and Eth.
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I would be very glad if my monthly salary were as much as 1 BTC.

... Yet I could buy half a BTC each month if I really wanted. You guys spend too much and/or save too little.

Recently bought an Apartment so very tight in terms of budget.

my first purchase came in 2017 as well when it was $3k. after that I didn't invest personally technically but started to accept my salary as a BTC and Eth.


Well, that's different, money going to an investment (the apartment) is investing/saving. And I also think one should have traditional investments (more so if it is in real state that would need to be rented/wasted otherwise). Investing all or even most of the savings into crypto is retarded... even if it could end being a jackpot.

How is that your salary (full or in part) comes as crypto? Do you work for a crypto company or something?
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February 13, 2019, 07:57:44 AM

Hey bitcoiners, what are your thoughts on the BTC's ITF approval? Will be there any price run triggered by this event, or it won't affect the overall value of BTC.
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February 13, 2019, 07:59:08 AM

Bitcoin is the 8th wonder of the world. 

It is that big. 

It is that amazing. 

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How poetic. Love it  Grin Grin Please do share with us if u get inspired by BTC again.
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February 13, 2019, 07:59:27 AM

Hey bitcoiners, what are your thoughts on the BTC's ITF approval? Will be there any price run triggered by this event, or it won't affect the overall value of BTC.

Probably yes, but there's nothing on the horizon at this time.
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Definition of cheap rate is very different in the context-time when someone bought his/her first Bitcoin. Ask those investors who got it during a bull run. they would love to grab some in the current scenario. its cheap for them.

I got in during China fud and the current price is almost the same as my monthly salary. not so cheap for me.


I would be very glad if my monthly salary were as much as 1 BTC.

... Yet I could buy half a BTC each month if I really wanted. You guys spend too much and/or save too little.

I have bought BTC for as little as 50€/btc in 2013 and for as much as 3000€/btc in 2017(not counting trading, I of course had sells/buys on every possible price up to $19K but that is not "fresh" money for me).

Regarding "You guys spend too much and/or save too little:" that seems a bit judgmental because we have to look at the whole package.  I understand that there are some cultural variations, and even locations in which savings is emphasized more than consumption.

I feel that I have led a pretty aggressive investment strategy that relates to a bit of a frugal life because I have always had a percentage of my salary go towards investing - usually 10% minimum, and surely sometimes higher than that.  Of course, the amounts that are in the investment pool can add up, and become tempting in terms of how to allocate such funds and if there are perceptions of "investment opportunities" to get the money "working" or earning greater returns.

I know young people who seemed to be living on a salary similar to mine, and they always had nice stuff, such as new cars.  I did not want the payments or the depreciation, but I did break down and begin to buy new cars after my surplus investment funds begin to seem to be so large that I could not resist any longer.  The many bells and whistles of the new car were surely nice, and I kind of felt that I had earned it after more than 20 years of working in various ways (gotta include college years in there too.. as a kind of ongoing working to advancement).

Regarding "fresh money" invested into BTC:  I find my system to be a bit confusing because I cashed out all the way to $19k, but I also used a vast majority of those generated funds to buy back BTC.  At the same time, there is a kind of ongoing putting of my extra money into my BTC fund.. so at some point, differentiating between "fresh money" and money generated from trades has become a bit confusing to calculate... gotta "ballpark" the estimate, sometimes. Is that cheating? 

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