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February 15, 2019, 09:05:00 PM



This infographic was initially posted here: "2020 Bitcoin Halving: 7 Facts You Ned to Know"
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February 15, 2019, 09:06:04 PM

"Patent factories" patent lots of stuff

Then ransom peoples good inventions.

Main  requirement is a lot of money, eg like google et al.

I don't see why that cant be CSW he clearly has some funding channels ?


He said something about coin teams being technically unlimited companies.

Unlimited, in my recollection of company law, was the liability of any 1 individual. Ie a limited partnership can be 50% each limited liability. Unlimited means 1 person leaves and 1 person caught they pay the lot.

So can he end up suing some coin teams members? possibly
 



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He can't simultaneously have a mound of patents (for which core sycophants regularly excoriate him), and not have any patents.

There is no impediment to him having a mound of invalid patents.

Sure, there's an impediment. While the bar isn't so high as to be infallible, passing patent review is at least prima fascie evidence of validity. So are you claiming all of nChain's patents are invalid?

Bahahahaha not in this day and age

So you are not claiming that all of nChain's patents are invalid. Got it.

Are you claiming that any of nChain's patents are invalid? If so, which ones?

I am claiming that Craig is a known con man who is a fugitive from Australian authorities for tax fraud [fact]

I am claiming that the US Patent Office is grossly underfunded [fact] and was highly unlikely to have had any crypto expertise at the time the patents were taken out [supposition]

I am claiming that that a known conman might just make up a bunch of bullshit troll patents and gotten them past the Patent Office which has no idea what it is doing [supposition]

For you to be defending someone who is on the run from the authorities for fraud, and claiming that his patents must be valid is laughable.  Why don’t you use your clearly impressive intellect for something worthwhile.  
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February 15, 2019, 09:20:32 PM

He can't simultaneously have a mound of patents (for which core sycophants regularly excoriate him), and not have any patents.

There is no impediment to him having a mound of invalid patents.

Sure, there's an impediment. While the bar isn't so high as to be infallible, passing patent review is at least prima fascie evidence of validity. So are you claiming all of nChain's patents are invalid?

Bahahahaha not in this day and age

So you are not claiming that all of nChain's patents are invalid. Got it.

Are you claiming that any of nChain's patents are invalid? If so, which ones?

I am claiming that Craig is a known con man who is a fugitive from Australian authorities for tax fraud [fact]

I am claiming that the US Patent Office is grossly underfunded [fact] and was highly unlikely to have had any crypto expertise at the time the patents were taken out [supposition]

I am claiming that that a known conman might just make up a bunch of bullshit troll patents and gotten them past the Patent Office which has no idea what it is doing [supposition]

For you to be defending someone who is on the run from the authorities for fraud, and claiming that his patents must be valid is laughable.  Why don’t you use your clearly impressive intellect for something worthwhile.  

good post to set you're merit on 1111  Roll Eyes
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I get so emotional baby


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February 15, 2019, 09:36:40 PM

Get some TM

Get just 0.226 BTC and you will be among top 1% of possible btc holders*.

*assuming that btc will be wildly accepted and EVERYONE will have some of it.


PS

I am not saying that 0.226 will make you a top 1% of current btc holders (to be 1% among current holders you need about 15BTC).
Top 1% in fiat (by wealth) have just $871K according to Credit Suisse, so invest at least $814 (0.226 BTC), then do nothing.
If btc would "consume" fiat, then you are golden, or rather "bitcoined".

I might send this simple message to some of my no-coiner friends.
If they ignore it now...oh, well.
$814 is a sum most people in OECD countries can afford to "invest" on a risky venture.
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Globb0 I am very sorry.
the nocoiner slur was from where you recently said you were 100% XMR, which maybe i got wrong too
fwiw your quips are funny and your knowhow respected by me and others and you should behave as you choose
if you have that much in btc it is perfectly respectable
assure you i'm quite the nobody too
apologies again
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February 15, 2019, 09:41:50 PM

Globb0 I am very sorry.
the nocoiner slur was from where you recently said you were 100% XMR, which maybe i got wrong too
fwiw your quips are funny and your knowhow respected by me and others and you should behave as you choose
if you have that much in btc it is perfectly respectable
assure you i'm quite the nobody too
apologies again
V8s

Awwwww guys!

I think to make friends again you should go docking

https://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=docking&utm_source=search-action
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February 15, 2019, 09:42:20 PM

Globb0 I am very sorry.
the nocoiner slur was from where you recently said you were 100% XMR, which maybe i got wrong too
fwiw your quips are funny and your knowhow respected by me and others and you should behave as you choose
if you have that much in btc it is perfectly respectable
assure you i'm quite the nobody too
apologies again
V8s

here I did take a risk sending my last Sm

but such apologies are to be respected (however we know V8 never mean't anything wrong........)

let me look whats out there to earn some sendable's so I can have something to send when i'm looking into an empty glass tomorrow
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Thanks at the moment Im holding a 2 hour barcrawl with LFC_B

*Crosses fingers tight*

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February 15, 2019, 09:54:29 PM

The internet didn't have the internet to facilitate adoption.

But guess what does?

Bitcoin.

🚀

https://twitter.com/AlecZiupsnys/status/1096527618340466689

USE OF THE INTERNET NICE !!!!!

adoption will be happening more and more, increase brothers
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Here's where everything is headed. See what's under/overvalued:





This site could not be more wrong in my opinion.  From looking at it before I can tell you.

Dash is going to be one of the most undervalued
Monero will be one of the the most overvalued

(This alone should ring bells of alarm)

Other undervalued gems will be XRP, ETH, TRON, EOS, BCASH and so on.

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...and he's a fucking moron to boot.
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This shit is not breaking down. Big money is buying. They are patient. It will creep up till ETF approval on 31/03. Bakkt will come when we least expect. Big alts will push up. Retail will prick up its ears. Hats will happily be eaten. Resistance is futile.



The 2019/2020 consolidation phase in Bitcoin will be the most commonly anticipated, predicted and understood consolidation phase in history.
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This shit is not breaking down. Big money is buying. They are patient. It will creep up till ETF approval on 31/03. Bakkt will come when we least expect. Big alts will push up. Retail will prick up its ears. Hats will happily be eaten. Resistance is futile.



The 2019/2020 consolidation phase in Bitcoin will be the most commonly anticipated, predicted and understood consolidation phase in history.

Well, that might have been the $6500 flat. Almost everyone thought that it was the bottom. Surprise, surprise.
Will this waterfall repeat in this cycle? It could, but I doubt it.
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The 2019/2020 consolidation phase in Bitcoin will be the most commonly anticipated, predicted and understood consolidation phase in history.

Ow that stings slightly.

Except I don’t think this thread counts as the general public.
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I enjoy reading JJG retirement plans... but i bet that when the price starts to move (up or down) you will quickly change them. 2017 deja vu.. greed.. you name it

The likely fact that you might change your plan does not cause any such planning to be futile.

It would be almost as bad to stick to a plan for the mere sake of it, especially if you have come across ways to tweak it and to make it better.

For example, I had never really sold any BTC before October/November 2015 - because whenever I did sell, I would replace them within a day or two.  However, in mid-2015, I created a incremental sell plan, yet when the BTC price shot up from $280 to $500, I froze.  I cancelled most of my sell orders between $350 and $500 because "feelings of UP"... and I even generated so many "feelings of UP" that I bought a bit more at $500 at the peak of that BTC price surge in early November 2015.

As you may recall, it took until the end of May 2016 for BTC prices to return to above $500 and to cause my late November 2015 purchase at $500 to become profitable. It seems to me that I learned a lot from that experience NOT to become so emotional and just to stick with my already existing incremental sell plan.... It takes some practice to get better at sticking with a plan and improving on the way in which and the degree to which you tweak your plan.

My supposition is that if you do not create a plan and at least attempt to learn from the plan by trying to largely carry it out, then you will likely fall into a kind of constant emotional adjustment that you suggest to "gonna happen anyhow" - which is NOT true from my perspective of my way of attempting to plan and learn.


Having almost grown up kids, and being +40yo, i´m starting to find this interesting... https://internationalliving.com/the-best-places-to-retire/

Good to have aspirations.

100x ?? I know it happened in the past, but it sounds too good to be possible in the future. Where do i sign for a 50x or a 20x?  Grin

Yep... you know that none of those are even close to guaranteed - but if variations of such price appreciation end up happening, then it is good to be in it and prepared  (or at least hedged).

Many of us in BTC for a while recognize that similar lack of certainty proclamations have happened previously, so 2015 was a pretty dire period, yet if you accumulated a decent stash of BTC during 2015, you would have already had periods of time in which portions of your BTC stash have easily surpassed 20x and even perhaps 50x and gotten pretty damned close to 100x...   

Past performance does NOT guarantee future performance - but there still seem to be decent foundational aspects in place that cause good probabilities that investing in BTC is likely to pay off handsomely in the coming years.


Dunno what created 2013 bull run.. was it Willy bot?

Does it matter?  We are far past the 2013 bull run, so overall, there seems to be more than just a willy bot propping up BTC prices.

2017 was retail bubble and we reached 20k usd

Are you trying to simplify matters too much? by arguing narrow reasons for BTC price appreciation bubbles?

2021 maybe will be institutional bubble with its trillions stash..  leaves me wondering about the 100x again..

surely not out of the realm of possible outcomes.  I would hate to NOT have any skin in the BTC game if knowing about these kinds of underlying facts and underlying decent odds for future exponential UP.
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February 15, 2019, 10:32:55 PM

He can't simultaneously have a mound of patents (for which core sycophants regularly excoriate him), and not have any patents.

There is no impediment to him having a mound of invalid patents.

Sure, there's an impediment. While the bar isn't so high as to be infallible, passing patent review is at least prima fascie evidence of validity. So are you claiming all of nChain's patents are invalid?

Bahahahaha not in this day and age

So you are not claiming that all of nChain's patents are invalid. Got it.

Are you claiming that any of nChain's patents are invalid? If so, which ones?

I am claiming that Craig is a known con man who is a fugitive from Australian authorities for tax fraud [fact]

I am claiming that the US Patent Office is grossly underfunded [fact] and was highly unlikely to have had any crypto expertise at the time the patents were taken out [supposition]

I am claiming that that a known conman might just make up a bunch of bullshit troll patents and gotten them past the Patent Office which has no idea what it is doing [supposition]

So rather than clarify and defend your accusatory statement, you instead continue to dissemble. I guess I'm done with this twig then.

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For you to be defending someone who is on the run from the authorities for fraud, and claiming that his patents must be valid is laughable.

1) I'm not defending him, I am injecting some much needed objectivity into the discussion.

2) If Craig is on the run from the authorities for fraud, then which jurisdiction is it, and why has he not been extradited to that jurisdiction?

3) I am not making any claim that his patents are valid. I stated as much several posts back. However, you quite clearly insinuated that they are invalid. I am merely trying to understand the bounds of your insinuation. But we all now see that you are unable to man up to your insinuation.
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survived the damn first two episodes
but the GF is happy
good points Micg
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