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[jojo69]

PayPal's p2p payment solution Venmo sending users to collections over as little as $7

https://www.wsj.com/articles/venmo-to-users-if-you-owe-us-money-were-coming-for-it-11553518800

[El duderino_]

Again very early HODLnesting

Not much to see @the moment, only red and more red.... nothing to disturb my HODLroutine

Good night WO’s

[Lambie Slayer]

ANGRYLASHINGOUT.EXE

Wow, truly fucked up you are it is then.
Please, keep it civilized and not too cheesy.
If you don't mind I'll wait until Lambie Slayer logs in, so we can both have fun with you.

Im sorry Cryptotourist. They canceled pudding night at my nursing home and Ive been lashing out lately.

This is my only hobby and I have always been abrasive and had trouble getting along with anyone for more than a few minutes in real life so it permeates into my online communications as well. Im gonna take Slayers advice and try to be a better person but I worry Im too old and stuck in my own head to make progress so I mock your youth out of jealousy. Sorry again. By the way Im really excited about it being the 100th day of the new Baby Bull Market and am looking forward to Lambie Slayers daily bullish proclamation!

Damn Juan, you dont need to be so hard on yourself, there is hope for you yet, dont give up! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ldAQ6Rh5ZI

[gembitz]

timberrrrr weeeeeee

[jojo69]

night Mic

[Ibian]

Data is physical. Prove me wrong.

A better argument would probably focus on the durability of data rather than physicality of data, (particularly the private key and any other data that is needed to access and spend the unspent outputs.) We've all been around enough to know what happens to people that lose this particular data. Yes, the data of the unspent outputs still reside on every stored copy of the blockchain, but that means fuck all if don't have the data you need to spend them.

Which reinforces the argument of the physical quality of Bitcoin. It doesn't mean Bitcoin is not ALSO virtual... but wipe all the physical copies of the blockchain and it's gone.

I suppose you can also etch your private keys/seeds/passwords on a couple of stone slabs. That would be pretty durable.

The mesopotamians had it right all along.

[Last of the V8s]

timberrrrr weeeeeee

@HaggardHawks
Today’s Word of the Day: CUMBERWORLD (n.) someone so useless their only purpose is to take up space

[LFC_Bitcoin]

timberrrrr weeeeeee

You’ve come back like a rotten fart. Fuck off & do something constructive with your time, man.

[Lambie Slayer]

timberrrrr weeeeeee

Oh look, weiner boy/girl is back

Scraped together some more allowance money for another try at shorting the bottom or just here in hopes that Kissless Virgin notices you?

[Lambie Slayer]

Today is a wonderful day, dont let the temporary dip fool you. Shorters we will rekt you beyond measure. Abrasive salty cunts we will help you live a better life. Hodlers are unstoppable. 

100 days into the new Baby Bull Market and all is well

Special thanks to each and everyone who gave me a merit so I could upload my avatar.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvZbzC6NsB0

[HairyMaclairy]

PayPal's p2p payment solution Venmo sending users to collections over as little as $7

https://www.wsj.com/articles/venmo-to-users-if-you-owe-us-money-were-coming-for-it-11553518800

$7?  Hahaha

I don’t know anything about Venmo but how do they put themselves in the position that randoms owe them $7.

[JayJuanGee]

Come on everyone... I've seen two things in the last couple weeks...

1.  Bitcoin flirts with 4k.
Suddenly everyone in here is talking about what amount of BTC is FU money and how the bull run is solidly underway.

2.  Bitcoin does a little 2% dip
Probably due to one seller on Finex... and the bear is far from over again.

You guys forget Bitcoin can do 10-20% moves in a day?  Take a deep breath... chances are one of the above scenarios is true...  or we range sideways for X amount of time.

You are starting to sound like torque.

Is that you torque?

You are describing a scenario that did not happen, except your characterizing the situation the way you want to see it.

[rebal15]

bitcoin provides utility through its ability to permissionlessly transport value anywhere

100% Wrong.  It's impossible for something to qualify as money unless it qualifies as an actual non-perishable commodity beforehand and none of those can be transferred over a telephone cord.  "Bitcoins" are simply worthless timestamps; it's a fake commodity.  You're trying to push the fraudulent, Keynesian, Plato school of money that money can be a completely arbitrary, imaginary widget disconnected from the physical world.  Plato was a Keynesian statist and the jibberish you're pushing is inherently the exact same statist position in essence.

You're also pretending bitcoin was created by 'god' himself as some type of perfect, flawless creation, when it was created by a central planner human being just like in any communist country and it doesn't even work at all because transaction validators are designed to centralize.  The philosophy behind imaginary widgets posing as money is ALWAYS Keynesian central planning at it's core.  Just because it's designed to deflate instead of inflate doesn't mean it's not a Keynesian system.

Humans live in the physical world, not imaginary 'cyberspace', and the only thing that can be transferred over a phone line is extremely perishable digital data like a Steam video game that might hold some value temporarily through artificial scarcity, but doesn't qualify as money or a store of value.  Artificial scarcity is NOT scarcity.  Real scarcity can form a Schelling point, artificial scarcity can only form an endless stream of pump and dump scams while the last one is left to rot for the next one in perpetuity.

Bitcoin is a very specific kind of data that is impossible to copy or fake and will never go away so long as people use it. It is a real, physical, tangible thing.

Can you not talk in Orwellian doublespeak?  Bitcoin is neither physical, nor tangible, nor a real commodity.  It is a designed to centralize, non-fungible, Keynesian Rube Goldberg machine inferior to physical metals.

Data is physical. Prove me wrong.

Data is the soul, the electrons are the blood, the binary is the DNA, 0 and 1 are the Protein.

[JayJuanGee]

those fucks.

Did you really think you could defeat the William Wallace of shitcoins?  Basel III regulations just stealth remonetized physical metals again with imminent revaluation afterwards.  Look at me, I'm the captain now.

Are you trying to call any kind of short-term price moves as victories for PMs?

O.k.  We have a track record that we can look at and see where gold/silver are in 2013 (and even take the top of the 2013 BTC price) and now in 2019.... Which one is doing better? 

Let's look again in 3 years, 5 years, 8 years 10 years.  For practical purposes, I don't think that it is necessary to plan beyond 10 years from our today's investing point, because at any point down the road, we should be ready, willing and able to reassess.

Anyhow, as I type, there remains a pretty damned high chance that bitcoin is going to be fairing much moar better than any of the PMs, singularly or in some kind of a package.  So get the fuck out of here with your "who is the captain" premature and wishful-thinking phoney baloney. 

You wished that you were the fucking captain and balling, but you are not... you are pathetically hanging onto some kind of pipe dream and continuing to characterize your position as one of strength when it is hanging onto the past and wishes about how the world could be, rather than how the world really is.  You fuck.   

[LFC_Bitcoin]

those fucks.

Did you really think you could defeat the William Wallace of shitcoins?  Basel III regulations just stealth remonetized physical metals again with imminent revaluation afterwards.  Look at me, I'm the captain now.

Are you trying to call any kind of short-term price moves as victories for PMs?

O.k.  We have a track record that we can look at and see where gold/silver are in 2013 (and even take the top of the 2013 BTC price) and now in 2019.... Which one is doing better? 

Let's look again in 3 years, 5 years, 8 years 10 years.  For practical purposes, I don't think that it is necessary to plan beyond 10 years from our today's investing point, because at any point down the road, we should be ready, willing and able to reassess.

Anyhow, as I type, there remains a pretty damned high chance that bitcoin is going to be fairing much moar better than any of the PMs, singularly or in some kind of a package.  So get the fuck out of here with your "who is the captain" premature and wishful-thinking phoney baloney. 

You wished that you were the fucking captain and balling, but you are not... you are pathetically hanging onto some kind of pipe dream and continuing to characterize your position as one of strength when it is hanging onto the past and wishes about how the world could be, rather than how the world really is.  You fuck.   

[rebal15]

PayPal's p2p payment solution Venmo sending users to collections over as little as $7

https://www.wsj.com/articles/venmo-to-users-if-you-owe-us-money-were-coming-for-it-11553518800

Instead of adding Bitcoin, they create another coin or token to earn 100% free money. Skrill, neteller added bitcoin. Omise created (or may be will create) omisego. Paypal will may be create venom

[Cryptotourist]

[JayJuanGee]

@JJG

Place your fucking bet you stubborn whinny wordyman FFS: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5122750.0

I'm o.k with stubborn

I'm o.k with wordy

I'm not participating in pay for play dynamics.   

[Arriemoller]

uff da

That's actually spelled "usch då".

[HairyMaclairy]

The punchlines write themselves

The Department for Exiting the EU said Monday night's vote set a "dangerous, unpredictable precedent" for the future

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-politics-47701591