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BitcoinGirl.Club
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June 29, 2019, 02:01:57 PM Last edit: May 15, 2023, 12:24:05 PM by BitcoinGirl.Club |
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What are they doing here? 🤫
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June 29, 2019, 02:03:30 PM |
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LOL Seems like the entire court is upset with Craig's stupidity.
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June 29, 2019, 02:30:43 PM |
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I have roach on ignore but would be happy to counter his misinformation in this instance. Bitcoin (per coin on average) costs anywhere between $1,300 and $37,400 to mine depending on where you are in the world. As you can see, mining is prohibitively expensive in much of the world (this is based on today's prices): https://coinrate.com/cryptocurrency-mining-prices-and-profitability-by-country-in-realtimeAnd yes, not anybody can just start up their own mining operation to get "cheap coins." Most mining farms operate in the red for months or years before turning a profit -- they are invested in the long haul and weather unprofitable periods on the bet that the price of BTC will continue to increase in the future. Besides, roach should know as well as anybody that the market dictates prices. This is what gives BTC - like any traded good in the world - its premium. I checked the web page. They need to update their statistics. It appears that they are using figures for the S9, which uses 100 J/TH. The S15 uses 57J/TH and the S17 uses 56 J/TH. So it appears the costs need to be adjusted down by almost half. Still expensive to mine a BTC in most places though. From what I can tell, it also does not factor in additional costs, like cooling costs and depreciation of mining equipment.
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June 29, 2019, 02:36:44 PM |
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Who wants to move to Venezuela for a year and get their mine on I’d consider it if I was single & a couple of us went into business together.
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BitcoinGirl.Club
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June 29, 2019, 02:44:07 PM |
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Who wants to move to Venezuela for a year and get their mine on I’d consider it if I was single & a couple of us went into business together. Safety first. I heard the situation there is very hostile, not sure how bad it is.
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June 29, 2019, 02:45:23 PM |
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Who wants to move to Venezuela for a year and get their mine on I’d consider it if I was single & a couple of us went into business together. They mine bitcoin in Iran already in their mosques due to the free electricity they have so why not? Well someone must be paying the bill anyway. So, it's not free at all.
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Who wants to move to Venezuela for a year and get their mine on I’d consider it if I was single & a couple of us went into business together. The US has an embargo against Venezuela, so I wouldn't be able to go into such a venture. Unless I was planning on not returning to the US until the embargo is lifted. Plus, I'm not certain that I would want to live for a moment under a corrupt socialist government. I know scoring that cheap corn is enticing, but there are limits.
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June 29, 2019, 02:51:43 PM Merited by JayJuanGee (1) |
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I have roach on ignore but would be happy to counter his misinformation in this instance. Bitcoin (per coin on average) costs anywhere between $1,300 and $37,400 to mine depending on where you are in the world. As you can see, mining is prohibitively expensive in much of the world (this is based on today's prices): https://coinrate.com/cryptocurrency-mining-prices-and-profitability-by-country-in-realtimeAnd yes, not anybody can just start up their own mining operation to get "cheap coins." Most mining farms operate in the red for months or years before turning a profit -- they are invested in the long haul and weather unprofitable periods on the bet that the price of BTC will continue to increase in the future. Besides, roach should know as well as anybody that the market dictates prices. This is what gives BTC - like any traded good in the world - its premium. aside from other valid arguments, this picture cannot be right, and even if it is for whole countries, at least in US, there are much-much cheaper regions where you can mine for much less. With S9, you mine at break even right now at about 15.56c/Kwh. https://www.cryptocompare.com/mining/calculator/btc?HashingPower=13.5&HashingUnit=TH%2Fs&PowerConsumption=1350&CostPerkWh=0.156&MiningPoolFee=1US average is 12c, so you do the math (my calc (12/15.56)X12000=$9254/btc mining breakeven cost after recouping fixed cost for S9 at the average US electricity cost). Besides, we are talking about a machine that is a three year old tech. Newer machines have at least twice as better profitability, but they are still rare. That said, miners also need to recoup their fixed cost (machines), so as far as P/L, the numbers are probably higher. For example, current S9 (on ebay) will recoup it's cost (at 12c) in about 10 mo, but more realistically, later, due to difficulty increase.
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June 29, 2019, 03:08:24 PM |
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If it’s costing so little in places like the Ukraine then why aren’t Westerners flocking there & renting an apartment for 12 months to mine?
How much money could you realistically make?
I was in Kiev last summer & the city centre apartments were ok & really cheap.
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June 29, 2019, 03:16:02 PM |
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It kind of pissed me off. I was taking my sweet ass time accumulating in the $3K-$4K range. I assumed we'd probably still be there now.
I only ended up re-buying half of what I had originally planned - why couldn't we have just panic bought like bitches instead of being so methodical? Still, can't complain. I planned to buy in big at 2700-2800. I knew 3000-4000 was cheap long-term, yet I got greedy again, still beating myself up about that. very understandable
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June 29, 2019, 03:17:50 PM |
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If it’s costing so little in places like the Ukraine then why aren’t Westerners flocking there & renting an apartment for 12 months to mine?
How much money could you realistically make?
I was in Kiev last summer & the city centre apartments were ok & really cheap.
...probably because they can find similar prices in US. In industrial setting, 5c-6c/kwh is relatively common. Also, people are being lazy and simply mine at so called hosting sites. It costs more, but no noise, etc. The mining machines are typically VERY noisy.
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June 29, 2019, 03:27:20 PM |
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Btw Micg is emotional.... gotta pick up my queen in a few hours from now !!!!!
the 2 primary emotions of a man are hunger and horniness. Haha waiting at the AirPort as we write 2 emotions taking care of today This weekend you will have a lot of work and you'll sleep a little. You know, eat, drink,.... She just woke up... didn't slept at the plain The eat stuff will be in 1H and 30 min then A small party at my village then We go dark, of the radar.....
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^ It is a good plan.
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June 29, 2019, 03:36:34 PM |
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Who wants to move to Venezuela for a year and get their mine on I’d consider it if I was single & a couple of us went into business together. Mate, I’ve got a friend with a Venezuelan missus. That place is Fucked. He’s a six foot six guy. Can’t even walk around in the pm without a local.
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June 29, 2019, 03:53:22 PM |
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Quick reminder, Buy The Sideways !
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June 29, 2019, 04:18:51 PM |
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LOL Seems like the entire court is upset with Craig's stupidity. Would be nice if they actually do something about it, and by the way, I have seen some posts that seem to give him some benefit of the doubt, in terms of him being an idiot, like you suggest, and I would think that courts are going to be inclined to give some benefit of the doubt, too, but after a while, even if the court is a kind of dumbass that is willing to give a lot of benefit of the doubt, the judge should be able to recognize, one would hope, that Craig is not merely stupid, he is intentional in a way that is likely to be punishable - and even hopefully the court is smart enough to see that his intentionality rises to the level of criminal that should not be allowed to be flaunted in an actual court of law - even if the proceedings are civil rather than criminal.
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