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[hv_]

Pump??

Not sure but observing @ $9,353

Good morning Observers.

The world for btc got back to be max 2 dimensions (flat earth)  - up or down

not so for true old BitCoin - 

[Indymoney]

Pump??

Not sure but observing @ $9,353

Good morning Observers.

After many days good movement @ $9,383

[Phil_S]

Pretty close to 9400...

Gold and silver are going bananas...

[-CryptoViking-]

(...)cut this BS

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2020/07/19/phe-death-data-row-means-now-no-reliable-way-track-covid-pandemic/
https://archive.is/9nmvc

In a shocking turn of events, Public Health England were attributing deaths to Covid that were possibly unrelated.

And in another, you weren't aware or didn't care to account for that when making your point.

This is happening still, not only in England, but in a lot of other countries worldwide. Hospitals are given incentives to report Covid on death certificates as a cause of death for a while know. This was discovered few months ago already, but of course mainstream media won't report on it.

[lightfoot]

This is happening still, not only in England, but in a lot of other countries worldwide. Hospitals are given incentives to report Covid on death certificates as a cause of death for a while know. This was discovered few months ago already, but of course mainstream media won't report on it.

Cite? I'm curious as to what "incentives" hospitals "get" for reporting cases and deaths as Covid.

Also if governments are no longer releasing data then people can make up whatever justifications they wish. Or someone can start a company that polls hospitals and sells the results to those who find value in being informed (ie: those who value their lives). Perhaps this is the point.

[Indymoney]

This is happening still, not only in England, but in a lot of other countries worldwide. Hospitals are given incentives to report Covid on death certificates as a cause of death for a while know. This was discovered few months ago already, but of course mainstream media won't report on it.

Cite? I'm curious as to what "incentives" hospitals "get" for reporting cases and deaths as Covid.

This is happening in may countries as here many hospitals having some good funds from government for reporting deaths as Covid many wrong certificates issued by few hospitals but no media or other authorties taking action as some good amount in move for this all.

[UnDerDoG81]

This is happening still, not only in England, but in a lot of other countries worldwide. Hospitals are given incentives to report Covid on death certificates as a cause of death for a while know. This was discovered few months ago already, but of course mainstream media won't report on it.

Cite? I'm curious as to what "incentives" hospitals "get" for reporting cases and deaths as Covid.

13k for a Patient with covid and 30k ish for somebody on ventilator due to covid. We dont have flu deaths this year, weird no? Its the biggest hoax in history.

[-CryptoViking-]

This is happening still, not only in England, but in a lot of other countries worldwide. Hospitals are given incentives to report Covid on death certificates as a cause of death for a while know. This was discovered few months ago already, but of course mainstream media won't report on it.

Cite? I'm curious as to what "incentives" hospitals "get" for reporting cases and deaths as Covid.

Also if governments are no longer releasing data then people can make up whatever justifications they wish. Or someone can start a company that polls hospitals and sells the results to those who find value in being informed (ie: those who value their lives). Perhaps this is the point.

This is the first thing I found about it now while checking on Google, but I had a pdf document as I found this in April , so I will try to find it to share it.

This article is talking about that situation when it was discovered , but some credible doctors published it too.

https://www.factcheck.org/2020/04/hospital-payments-and-the-covid-19-death-count/

[BobLawblaw]

https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1285556186226491394

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https://twitter.com/BitmexWhale/status/1285557356508712960

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https://twitter.com/whale_alert/status/1285503045057511424

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https://twitter.com/BXRekt/status/1285561055779926018

[LFC_Bitcoin]

This is happening still, not only in England, but in a lot of other countries worldwide. Hospitals are given incentives to report Covid on death certificates as a cause of death for a while know. This was discovered few months ago already, but of course mainstream media won't report on it.

Cite? I'm curious as to what "incentives" hospitals "get" for reporting cases and deaths as Covid.

A guy in my local pub told me his Dad sadly died of a heart attack in March, he didn’t even have covid but apparently the NHS put it on his death certificate & charged him £70 due to the dangers of supposedly ‘dealing with a potentially contaminated corpse’.

I am not joking.

Imagine every person over a certain age has covid as a potential contributing factor to their death, either honestly or falsely, £70 per body.

[-CryptoViking-]

This is happening still, not only in England, but in a lot of other countries worldwide. Hospitals are given incentives to report Covid on death certificates as a cause of death for a while know. This was discovered few months ago already, but of course mainstream media won't report on it.

Cite? I'm curious as to what "incentives" hospitals "get" for reporting cases and deaths as Covid.

A guy in my local pub told me his Dad sadly died of a heart attack in March, he didn’t even have covid but apparently the NHS put it on his death certificate & charged him £70 due to the dangers of supposedly ‘dealing with a potentially contaminated corpse’.

I am not joking.

Imagine every person over a certain age has covid as a potential contributing factor to their death, either honestly or falsely, £70 per body.

In Croatia we had even more bizarre cases, where old people 90+ years dying of cancer got Covided on their death certificates...

[bitcoinPsycho]

Fuck covid
All hail BITCOIN

[Indymoney]

Fuck covid
All hail BITCOIN

Very good just touch $9407 

[yefi]

-Hon Sec

[serveria.com]

$9500 today? 

[LFC_Bitcoin]

$9500 today? 

[AlexPCS]

Low volume pump. Let's hope it's not another fake one... =(

[BobLawblaw]

https://twitter.com/BitmexWhale/status/1285575379537862657

[Tash]

This is happening still, not only in England, but in a lot of other countries worldwide. Hospitals are given incentives to report Covid on death certificates as a cause of death for a while know. This was discovered few months ago already, but of course mainstream media won't report on it.

Cite? I'm curious as to what "incentives" hospitals "get" for reporting cases and deaths as Covid.

Also if governments are no longer releasing data then people can make up whatever justifications they wish. Or someone can start a company that polls hospitals and sells the results to those who find value in being informed (ie: those who value their lives). Perhaps this is the point.

Its a well known fact New York Hospitals Get Paid $13K to List Patients as COVID-19 and $39K to Put Them on a Ventilator

[cAPSLOCK]

The changes BSV makes to the protocol will inevitably centralize the protocol,

You'll need to be more specific. Which changes exactly are you speaking of?

I certainly hope we are not headed down some semantic rabbit hole about who changed what... but...

The most obvious change.  They have taken the big block ethos to it's end.  They did not only lift block size limitations, but the community has been building applications and uses that encourage as much use of the blockchain as possible.  They ridicule the BTC camp for it's Raspberry Pi nodes and have embraced the idea that nodes (which for them are de facto miners) will be big server farms pushing the boundaries of storage space, network bandwidth and computational resources.

Not only that, but the leaders of this have also pushed forth the idea that censorship resistance was never part of Bitcoin, and that it will be safe for blockchain maintenance to be handled by the anointed few partly because the blockchain will then also be subject to rollbacks, and censorship in cooperation with governments.

I am aware the Satoshi posted on this forum about mining being specialized hardware in server farms etc (I was a lurker back then).  But he also talked about people becoming vigilant about space/bandwith/cpu requirements in the future.  I also never read that he had begun to see that mining and consensus/verification would become two distinct things that could split into specialized groups.  I think Hal got that (and therefore possibly SN too?)   But Satoshi seemed to be of more than one opinion about how mining/consensus would evolve.  But what he did not seem to be two minds on is trust minimization, censorship resistance, and the need to avoid trusted third parties.

And those foundational blocks of Bitcoin are being cheerfully removed by the BSV camp.

I see it talked about very infrequently, but ui do believe one of the reasons for this is there are people who are attempting to use the courts to end up forcing a legal precedent for the keys to the early Satoshi block rewards to be handed over to them by force.  They hope for this to be done on the BTC chain, but they will at LEAST eventually achieve this on BSV.

The whole thing is a giant cluster, and the fact someone as smart as you can ignore the giant problems and warning bells here both amazes and concerns me.