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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 4 (3.3%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (0.8%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (1.7%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (8.3%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (12.4%)
$95K to $100K - 27 (22.3%)
>$100K - 62 (51.2%)
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July 14, 2020, 08:00:11 AM

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As you can see on the chart above, we are still on a price compression shown with a pink color on the chart, After breaking this price compression area from any side we can expect to see a dangerous sharp movement. We do have the strong support area on 8980 and 9080, this can make another price jump to 9600 and 9800. and this 9600 - 9800 resistance in a very important area where the market decides to continue the trend or after breaking 9900 we can expect to see Bitcoin on higher channels up to 11k, Or by not breaking it we can expect to see the price at 7800.


My next analyze is ready on my thread. Where I explained about the breaking price compression channel which is one of the most important movements of this year, where the market makes decision to make a break one side of the channel and attempts for higher or even lower targets.
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July 14, 2020, 08:19:11 AM

About the poll, I chose September. For the prophesy:

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July 14, 2020, 09:03:57 AM
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As you can see on the chart above, we are still on a price compression shown with a pink color on the chart, After breaking this price compression area from any side we can expect to see a dangerous sharp movement. We do have the strong support area on 8980 and 9080, this can make another price jump to 9600 and 9800. and this 9600 - 9800 resistance in a very important area where the market decides to continue the trend or after breaking 9900 we can expect to see Bitcoin on higher channels up to 11k, Or by not breaking it we can expect to see the price at 7800.


My next analyze is ready on my thread. Where I explained about the breaking price compression channel which is one of the most important movements of this year, where the market makes decision to make a break one side of the channel and attempts for higher or even lower targets.

You do realize that one can draw at least 20 other lines connecting various tops/bottoms, showing absolutely all possible directions of the future prices, right?  Cheesy And then, why should Bitcoin obey the one you chose?  (Of course, this is kind of a joke with much truth in it, valid for any TA in general.)

Having said that, there are some patterns that are remarkable and studied in the professional TA. Perhaps the most famous is the falling wedge pattern. It is clear that since the spike above 10200, we have a falling wedge. Your lines somehow miss this pattern. I don't understand how arbitrary lines should be preferred compared to the most common pattern in trading history. Anyway, the TA regarding the next move of the price pretty much is clueless. Half of the books/artciles predict a downard breakout and the other half an upward breakout. The only thing both agree is that the volume will be much higher. The other thing I partially agree with, is that it depends on whether we are in a bear or a bull market. If we are in a bull market started in March 12th and that will continue in the months and years to come, then the breakout should be upwards. It is almost equally possible however, that we are still in a longer bear market since July 2019 (or should I say since Jan 2018 with an interruption April-June 2019), so a breakout downards is equally possible.
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July 14, 2020, 09:18:02 AM

No the argument is more like this.


Round earth or flat earth. There really isn't technicaly much difference. They are both earths
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July 14, 2020, 09:30:36 AM
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You do realize that one can draw at least 20 other lines connecting various tops/bottoms, showing absolutely all possible directions of the future prices, right?  Cheesy And then, why should Bitcoin obey the one you chose?  (Of course, this is kind of a joke with much truth in it, valid for any TA in general.)

Having said that, there are some patterns that are remarkable and studied in the professional TA. Perhaps the most famous is the falling wedge pattern. It is clear that since the spike above 10200, we have a falling wedge. Your lines somehow miss this pattern. I don't understand how arbitrary lines should be preferred compared to the most common pattern in trading history. Anyway, the TA regarding the next move of the price pretty much is clueless. Half of the books/artciles predict a downard breakout and the other half an upward breakout. The only thing both agree is that the volume will be much higher. The other thing I partially agree with, is that it depends on whether we are in a bear or a bull market. If we are in a bull market started in March 12th and that will continue in the months and years to come, then the breakout should be upwards. It is almost equally possible however, that we are still in a longer bear market since July 2019 (or should I say since Jan 2018 with an interruption April-June 2019), so a breakout downards is equally possible.

Hey ivomm,
I would suggest you to read my thread here explaining about it: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5229837
Of course, the price will never obey my TA. In other words, none can tell surly and 100% how the price should react even the best trader in the world. Because there is a difference between traders are predicts.
So generally, price action is just a science that examines the possibilities. Depends on how you use it.


Also regarding to chart patterns, it's a super huge world there are many geometric and fibonacci ratios we should check and if one number changes a little bit the whole pattern changes completely. Just to see how many chart patters do we have and how complicated they are you can check this page here: http://thepatternsite.com/chartpatterns.html
I usually won't consider patterns except for long and mid-term analyzes (That's just my style Grin)

Edit: Oh sorry bud.. I didn't notice the joke part in the first place....

Thank you for sharing your toughs with me about the analyze. Apologize for the misunderstanding in the first place  Grin
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July 14, 2020, 11:41:01 AM
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[...]

You do realize that one can draw at least 20 other lines connecting various tops/bottoms, showing absolutely all possible directions of the future prices, right?

Exactly.

I'm no expert in TA (who is?), but to me it seems that most predictions of this kind apply Gambler's Fallacy, expecting a coin that came heads 6 times in a row to come tails the next time they toss it.

All we need to know to predict where it's going long-term can be found here. For short-term predictions, just roll a dice, and you'll be right 50% of the time on average -- better than many TA charts out there.
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^^ here you go..
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July 14, 2020, 01:09:19 PM

^^ here you go..


wait

so its NOT supposed to look like that??
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This is your last chance to make fun of Bitcoin until we move our ass towards the moon 😜

About the poll, I chose September.
Let Bitcoin to have stable image for few more months so I gone with October. I am enjoying the time around right now 😜
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July 14, 2020, 01:54:27 PM

@mikeinspace
The road to 100K will be long & arduous for #Bitcoin  as each 10K rise is someone’s psychological top creating sell pressure and retracement. It’s easy to say you’ll hang on white knuckled all the way up but when will you lick the fiat boot... 20K? 30K? 50K?

HODL brother, HODL!
https://twitter.com/mikeinspace/status/1282862789812531206?s=21

I am wondering if this is not some sarcastic post.  He is not exactly one to take that ideological line.
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So I have tried a few times to download the Coinbase app needed to sign up for the Coinbase debit card. Each time I get "This is not supported in your country".

I use a VPN to set my IP in the US so is it not supported in the US? Or is it somehow detecting that I'm really in Panama?

Also, I finally got around to filing my extortion papers for the IRS.

Getting married helped keep me from needing to pay any taxes.

Land of the free...where you have to file your taxes even if you haven't stepped foot in the country all year.

You could renounce your citizenship, but you may well be anticipating getting some income such as social security or maybe you are receiving some other pension, which makes it a BIGGER trade off to renounce.

I am not saying that I agree with world-wide income taxation, and surely there are trade-offs with any system whether we are referring to taxation or other matters of figuring out if you get benefits or will get benefits in the future.   Sure, you likely subscribe to one of those libertarian views, and you have already admitted to it, and sure I have issues with libertarians trying to spin matters with out accounting for how to deal with various public goods, but you surely did not start your propounding of libertarian ideas in your teenage years, so you have some issues with your having had made too many USA connections in terms of either prior employment or your desires to return to the USA or to travel around the world with a USA passport causing you to be unwilling to renounce your citizenship.. because it will likely cost you more than what you are willing to admit to because you want to spin the taxation matter in one direction (sure we all have concerns about taxation how their spent and from whom they are collected).


To renounce my citizenship would require paying taxes on the total value of all of my bitcoin holdings as if I sold them the day I renounced. The thought of the amount of brown skinned people in far off lands who's skin will be burned off using my money does not sit well with me.

My thought is that the US will collapse in the next few years so it is not necessary to renounce my citizenship. US citizenship will cease to exist. Then I can just not sign onto the America 2 (the electric boogaloo) citizenship.

But not to worry. I filed this year so when you leave your house in the morning there will be roads.


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July 14, 2020, 02:18:59 PM

whats up with the mempool??

Hashrate @ath and still we are congesting?
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Volatility is back to the lows again. I was expecting a "big move" sub 2% on 30-day volatility average a couple of weeks ago, now I'm starting to think we can go sub 1% like in 2018:



Either way, when the move happens, it's likely to be bigger the further the volatility drops. Just like in April 2019 and November 2018.
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Well......

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whats up with the mempool??

Hashrate @ath and still we are congesting?

Hashrate has nothing to do with how quickly we clear the mempool.

Well, I suppose if the recent difficulty adjustment was higher than today's current hashrate we could see block times slow down just a little... but that's also normal.
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whats up with the mempool??

Hashrate @ath and still we are congesting?

Hashrate has nothing to do with how quickly we clear the mempool.

Well, I suppose if the recent difficulty adjustment was higher than today's current hashrate we could see block times slow down just a little... but that's also normal.

Difficulty is a tad too high, block times remain wonky. Somebody sent me a 4 sat/byte tx 2 days ago and it still hasn't confirmed :/
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July 14, 2020, 03:55:15 PM

whats up with the mempool??

Hashrate @ath and still we are congesting?

Hashrate has nothing to do with how quickly we clear the mempool.

Well, I suppose if the recent difficulty adjustment was higher than today's current hashrate we could see block times slow down just a little... but that's also normal.

Difficulty is a tad too high, block times remain wonky. Somebody sent me a 4 sat/byte tx 2 days ago and it still hasn't confirmed :/

Is 4 sat per byte too low to run through Via Bitcoin free transaction accelerator?
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whats up with the mempool??

Hashrate @ath and still we are congesting?

Hashrate has nothing to do with how quickly we clear the mempool.

Well, I suppose if the recent difficulty adjustment was higher than today's current hashrate we could see block times slow down just a little... but that's also normal.

Difficulty is a tad too high, block times remain wonky. Somebody sent me a 4 sat/byte tx 2 days ago and it still hasn't confirmed :/

Forward it to me ad I'll check it out. Grin
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There has been 11 blocks found in the last hour so that seems pretty quick to me since there should be 6 blocks per hour on average.
1 every ten minutes ideally.
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