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[Millionero]

Yup. I have been too busy pleasuring myself to sell any bitcoin lately.

Glad I'm not the only one.
#nohomo

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[eddie13]

Breaking 24777$ prediction game      FINAL LIST       

27/12/2017 bikerleszno
29/12/2018 cAPSLOCK 
30/12/2017 digithusiast
31/12/2017 Raja_MBZ
01/01/2018 elg
02/01/2018 wachtwoord
03/01/2018 JimboToronto
04/01/2018 d_eddie 
05/01/2018 BTCMILLIONAIRE
06/01/2018 HanvanBitcoin
07/01/2018 ghandi
08/01/2018 savetherainforrest
09/01/2018 explorer
10/01/2018 bicoinpsycho
11/01/2018 Bitcoinaire
12/01/2018 speedwheel
13/01/2018 undeadbitcoiner
14/01/2018 northypole
15/01/2018 ivomm
16/01/2018 maca068
17/01/2018 bitcoinvest
18/01/2018 last of the v8s
19/01/2018 mfort312
20/01/2018 1982dre
21/01/2018 flamast2
22/01/2018 RealMachasm
23/01/2018 willope
24/01/2018 kartala
25/01/2018 orpington
26/01/2018 rolling
27/01/2018 LFC_bitcoin
28/01/2018 jojo69
29/01/2018 CristiTCM
30/01/2018 rayX12
31/01/2018 realsteelboy
01/02/2018 twocorn
02/02/2018 mancroofer
03/02/2018 True Myth
04/02/2018 poolminor
05/02/2018 itod
06/02/2018 scheptan
07/02/2018 vapourminer
08/02/2018 alexeft
09/02/2018 siera
10/02/2018 AlcoHoDL
11/02/2018 Dunkelheit667
12/02/2018 yonton
13/02/2018 Wekkel
14/02/2018 Thekool1s
15/02/2018 starmman
16/02/2018 Globb0
17/02/2018 leveldkrypto
18/02/2018 olesh
19/02/2018 BitCoinBurger
20/02/2018 Paashaas
21/02/2018 flynn
22/02/2018 icygreen
23/02/2018 erisdiscordia
24/02/2018 phil_s
25/02/2018 sirazimuth
26/02/2018 Arriemoller
27/02/2018 yonton
28/02/2018 Muttley
01/03/2018 bones261
02/03/2018 heater
03/03/2018 soullyG
04/03/2018 InvoKing
05/03/2018 Notme
06/03/2018 sa_94
07/03/2018 NUFCrichard
08/03/2018 Imbatman
09/03/2018 Roombot
10/03/2018 STT
11/03/2018 badream
13/03/2018 erre
14/03/2018 julian071
15/03/2018 podyx
17/03/2018 fragout
18/03/2018 fabiorem
21/03/2018 dakustaking76
23/03/2018 nikauforest
31/03/2018 vroom
01/04/2018 somac.
02/04/2018 kurious
04/04/2018 fluidjax
05/04/2018 bitcoinbunny
08/04/2018 tyler1890
10/04/2018 ludwigvon
11/04/2018 hairymaclairy
16/04/2018 practicaldreamer
18/04/2018 free-bit.co.in
27/04/2018 drbrockoin
01/05/2018 sprinkles
02/06/2018 oblox
07/07/2018 IntroVert
03/08/2018 toxic2040
28/08/2018 bitserve
15/10/2018 Yefi
05/11/2018 mikenz
31/12/2018 melman2002
01/01/2019 Spaceman_Spiff_Original
12/02/2019 FractalUniverse
21/04/2019 gentlemand
20/02/2020 romneymoney
18/12/2021 luckygenough56

UPDATE     AND GOOD LUCK !!!

BITCOIN??   Just ———-> hodl that shit  keep innovating/ adapting/ learning/buying/ not panicing/decentralize and So on .........

And get quick @24777 Just for new future list games getting bored on This one

And Some say same old shit please like NEXT 24 h are critical or .......

I received the BTC this morning.  Best Christmas surprise ever.  THANKS El duderino_

That’s quite amazing bro..

[eddie13]

This price action makes me think that a $250k + top is much more plausible that a $100k top 

The current currency system is dying.

It’s no longer a cringe part of a hidden sub culture in society who knows this.

It’s no longer the Peter Schiffs of this world proclaiming the end of fiat systems.

It’s a (close to critical) mass that is contemplating this now. All in the open and for everyone to see.

And it’s simple math determining that this will accelerate. 20% of all dollars in the world created this year alone. Next time, will it be 40%? And the next thereafter?

Will the new stimulus bill go to $4 trillion (6.6% of all money (in broad terms) in the whole world)? 
Will the next stimulus bill be $8 trillion?
The talks about the $1 trillion coin seem a long time ago (those were rookie numbers  ).

It’s happening because it’s inevitable.

Greatest. Wealth. Transfer. Ever.

Makes me wonder how much bitcoin is going to increase in value vs how much fiats are going to loose in value..

1 BTC will eventually be worth more than all of every fiat currency that has ever existed combined.. Eventually..

[FIFA worldcup]

[Biodom]

This price action makes me think that a $250k + top is much more plausible that a $100k top  

The current currency system is dying.

It’s no longer a cringe part of a hidden sub culture in society who knows this.

It’s no longer the Peter Schiffs of this world proclaiming the end of fiat systems.

It’s a (close to critical) mass that is contemplating this now. All in the open and for everyone to see.

And it’s simple math determining that this will accelerate. 20% of all dollars in the world created this year alone. Next time, will it be 40%? And the next thereafter?

Will the new stimulus bill go to $4 trillion (6.6% of all money (in broad terms) in the whole world)?  
Will the next stimulus bill be $8 trillion?
The talks about the $1 trillion coin seem a long time ago (those were rookie numbers   ).

It’s happening because it’s inevitable.

Greatest. Wealth. Transfer. Ever.

I fear the highlighted.
I cannot force myself to go 100% in btc (with some others sprinkled about), just because being 100% in does not give any wiggle room.
I detest spending btc, so need $$ to do that, but you cannot rely on btc up down moves to provide enough $$ as it might catch you when it is trending down, but you need cash ASAP.
In addition, is there room in bitcoin for everyone-maybe, but only at truly astronomical prices.
I see an investment "credibility gap" somewhere between 100K and 1mil.
Institutions might still go for it, though, but your average Joe would not buy something that costs 100K, however, at 1mil and above it probably would be stable enough for that Joe to simply use some lower size unit (bits, sats or whatever) for small item transactions.

[rolling]

25K to 100K is not really "price action", it's a huge amount of money that needs to pour in. 250K, well, it's even much more bigger !

But I will not bet against it either.

It's not just about money. If supply is very reduced because few people are willing to sell and also because of the deflationary nature of bitcoin, less money is needed to make the price go up.

The flip side being that if nobody sells, the price can't go up anymore either !

I think it would be a great sign if nobody wanted to sell a single bitcoin at a certain price. It will never happen though.

There is plenty of supply available, the price just needs to get to the point where it shakes some loose. For instance, I'm guessing more than half of the bitcoin ever created would be available for sale right now at $1million each.

There is no shortage. It just seems like it because the price is so low. Who would sell now when they know what the next year has in store?

[philipma1957]

25K to 100K is not really "price action", it's a huge amount of money that needs to pour in. 250K, well, it's even much more bigger !

But I will not bet against it either.

It's not just about money. If supply is very reduced because few people are willing to sell and also because of the deflationary nature of bitcoin, less money is needed to make the price go up.

The flip side being that if nobody sells, the price can't go up anymore either !

I think it would be a great sign if nobody wanted to sell a single bitcoin at a certain price. It will never happen though.

There is plenty of supply available, the price just needs to get to the point where it shakes some loose. For instance, I'm guessing more than half of the bitcoin ever created would be available for sale right now at $1million each.

There is no shortage. It just seems like it because the price is so low. Who would sell now when they know what the next year has in store?

Guys like me sell small pieces .

Lets say I clear  .2 btc monthly with the mining.

So selling off 0.02 or 0.03 each big rise makes sense.

Mine and hodl most sell small pieces at :

20k
22k
25k
27k
30k

It is why I prefer slower gains so that selling off a piece happens 1 time a month.

[lightfoot]

The flip side being that if nobody sells, the price can't go up anymore either !

But that's too imaginary. Do you really think that in a $479,028,551,331 market cap market literally nobody is going to sell?
   

At that price, 1 BTC would pretty much equal one Lambo so I guess I would have to sell one. *sigh*

[Biodom]

25K to 100K is not really "price action", it's a huge amount of money that needs to pour in. 250K, well, it's even much more bigger !

But I will not bet against it either.

It's not just about money. If supply is very reduced because few people are willing to sell and also because of the deflationary nature of bitcoin, less money is needed to make the price go up.

The flip side being that if nobody sells, the price can't go up anymore either !

I think it would be a great sign if nobody wanted to sell a single bitcoin at a certain price. It will never happen though.

There is plenty of supply available, the price just needs to get to the point where it shakes some loose. For instance, I'm guessing more than half of the bitcoin ever created would be available for sale right now at $1million each.

There is no shortage. It just seems like it because the price is so low. Who would sell now when they know what the next year has in store?

The question is: why "old school" money managers from Citi to Fidelity now gave btc price targets (next year!!) of 300-400K or even more? From my previous encounters with finance, analysts loath making predictions of more than 2X current price, with 30-50% up or down being the most typical. Here they went 15-20X. I am not sure why?

One possible explanation is they are trying to make the curve to go hyper-exponential, then pull the "rug" from under and collapse it.
Or, maybe, really strong WS money already accumulated enough in $5K-20K range and now want a rapid rise to cash out.
There must be some play here, but what is it?

Of course, it is possible that me are witnessing financial "regime change", but much more data is needed to support this.
Serious people have said that the only thing that can stop btc is very high interest rates.
In one playbook they will go for high inflation, causing btc to climb super high, then as inflation is established, smash btc down by sudden increase in the interest rates: going from super negative real rates that we see at the moment to positive rates, which would mean, say, 10-15% interest rates a la Volcker shock.

[lightfoot]

1 BTC will eventually be worth more than all of every fiat currency that has ever existed combined.. Eventually..

And this is why I really think my idea of having tattooed on one's forehead "this brain has the passcode to a 10btc wallet. Revive me and it is yours" is a really good idea if you are going to be cyro preserved. When that much money would buy a planet they will have a serious incentive to revive you with all memories intact.....

[Toxic2040]

So after another wait till 24,777 was broken for real   ...

I just have payed my debt of the last game that was running, so this time congrats romneymoney.

Merry Xmass


Very crazy, the game started at the 25-12 and ended at 25-12

LoL

+1 WOsMerit


this is gentlemen

well played sir


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I received the BTC this morning.  Best Christmas surprise ever.  THANKS El duderino_

+1 WOsMerit


congrats

[xhomerx10]

https://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-to-halt-xrp-trading-deposits-in-us-due-to-sec-lawsuit

 January 8th 2021, Bitstamp will no longer allow US citizens to deposit money.  Which exchange will we use as the standard for Bitcoin price quotes?  Should we switch to EUR instead of USD?  When moon?

[d_eddie]

25K to 100K is not really "price action", it's a huge amount of money that needs to pour in. 250K, well, it's even much more bigger !

But I will not bet against it either.

It's not just about money. If supply is very reduced because few people are willing to sell and also because of the deflationary nature of bitcoin, less money is needed to make the price go up.

The flip side being that if nobody sells, the price can't go up anymore either !

I think it would be a great sign if nobody wanted to sell a single bitcoin at a certain price. It will never happen though.

There is plenty of supply available, the price just needs to get to the point where it shakes some loose. For instance, I'm guessing more than half of the bitcoin ever created would be available for sale right now at $1million each.

There is no shortage. It just seems like it because the price is so low. Who would sell now when they know what the next year has in store?

The question is: why "old school" money managers from Citi to Fidelity now gave btc price targets (next year!!) of 300-400K or even more? From my previous encounters with finance, analysts loath making predictions of more than 2X current price, with 30-50% up or down being the most typical. Here they went 15-20X. I am not sure why?

Maybe they've seen it happen already, and some of them would like to be able to say "I predicted THIS in 2020"?

One possible explanation is they are trying to make the curve to go hyper-exponential, then pull the "rug" from under and collapse it.
Or, maybe, really strong WS money already accumulated enough in $5K-20K range and now want a rapid rise to cash out.
There must be some play here, but what is it?

Very appropriate question. I understand - and partly share - your mistrust of Wall Street elites speaking out like this. Unfortunately, reading the mind of sharks is not easy. Can they really be so coordinated?

Of course, it is possible that me are witnessing financial "regime change", but much more data is needed to support this.
Serious people have said that the only thing that can stop btc is very high interest rates.
In one playbook they will go for high inflation, causing btc to climb super high, then as inflation is established, smash btc down by sudden increase in the interest rates: going from super negative real rates that we see at the moment to positive rates, which would mean, say, 10-15% interest rates a la Volcker shock.

Possible, but is it likely? I am not able to attach a figure to this. Again, can they be so coordinated? Any disaligned country (and I'm sure there would be more than one) would stand to reap lots of benefits. Is this compatible with an evil plan to rule the world? Maybe we should ask Stewie.

[yefi]

https://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-to-halt-xrp-trading-deposits-in-us-due-to-sec-lawsuit

January 8th 2021, Bitstamp will no longer allow US citizens to deposit money.  Which exchange will we use as the standard for Bitcoin price quotes?  Should we switch to EUR instead of USD?  When moon?

I think that means deposit XRP, they can still throw their benjies on there.

[Hueristic]

Moronic Anti-Vax rant

Yep I wish I could give you and all mask less freedom lovers an entire island .

With plenty of food and drink.

No doctors so you can be free from medicine like vaccines.

No cops so you can be free from law....

Fact check: Sweden has not achieved herd immunity, is not proof that lockdowns are useless

https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-prageru-sweden-herd-immunit/fact-check-sweden-has-not-achieved-herd-immunity-is-not-proof-that-lockdowns-are-useless-idUSKBN28C2R7

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/12/22/sweden-coronavirus-covid-response/

Stockholm denies pursuing herd immunity. But internal emails show Swedish officials were resigned to mass infections all along.

[Wekkel]

https://twitter.com/danheld/status/1342878164926799873?s=19

Perhaps posted already but this time could be different 

[xhomerx10]

https://www.coindesk.com/bitstamp-to-halt-xrp-trading-deposits-in-us-due-to-sec-lawsuit

January 8th 2021, Bitstamp will no longer allow US citizens to deposit money.  Which exchange will we use as the standard for Bitcoin price quotes?  Should we switch to EUR instead of USD?  When moon?

I think that means deposit XRP, they can still throw their benjies on there.

 Thanks Yefi!  That makes more sense since there hasn't been a great outcry over the exchange banning USD deposits.  I guess, in the back of my mind, there has to be some bad news on the horizon.  Bitcoin isn't allowed to succeed without having to overcome some serious setbacks along the way and we just took a crack at $26k!

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

$26,113 on Kucoin


$26,000 on Binance


$25,990 on Coinbase


$25,993 on Bitstamp


$19,700ish ATH sounds like an ancient story 🤪

[OutOfMemory]

$25.966

here we go again!

EDIT: Just touched $26k and down. It's a matter of time.
I also share Bawb's thoughts about a stronger correction, the question is when in price/time it will happen.
hodlers unaffected 

[BitcoinGirl.Club]

Fuck!
romneymoney is now 0.25BTC richer 🤩

Very crazy, the game started at the 25-12 and ended at 25-12

Crazy!
What is coming next from Mic?