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March 17, 2021, 09:49:50 PM
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I think that NFTs are awesome.  Not necessarily the particular NFTs being making headline trades right now—many of those are stupid; but then, many uses of Bitcoin have been stupid (especially early on).  Nonetheless, the concept is awesome.

And get this:  NFTs are not in competition with Bitcoin!  Bitcoin is a currency; it is supposed to be fungible, and I defend Bitcoin’s fungibility.  Non-Fungible Tokens are, of course, not fungible.  They are not supposed to be a currency.  Why are some Bitcoiners getting bent out of shape about this?  Just because NFTs run on generalized smart-contract chains,0 which Bitcoin is not?

NFTs apply cryptography for a new use case.  A very useful use case.1  They have created a new asset class that improves on the properties of similar, older asset classes, just as Bitcoin created a new kind of money that improves on the properties of older monies.

Proof that NFT technology will succeed:  I see WOers slinging the exact same FUD against NFTs as has always been used against Bitcoin.  Let’s see just how much this technology will totally take over the world:

  • “It’s a Ponzi.” ✔
  • “The scarcity is artificial.  Anyone can make perfect copies of it.” ✔
  • “Drug dealers will use it to launder money.” ✔
  • “Those fools will be burned when it is shut down by regulators (SEC, et al.).”2

I anticipate that as I keep reading WO posts about NFTs, I will be adding to this list...



Now, don’t you dare accuse me of being “bullish on NFTs”, or some such nonsense.  Again, duh:  NFTs are non-fungible.  To say, “Buy NFTs!” is like saying, “Buy stuff!”  Well, what stuff?  Some stuff is valuable; other stuff is not.

In the course of my life, I have sometimes paid extra for e.g. a copy of a book autographed by an author whom I admire.  That copy is just like every other copy, except that the author spent about a second of his time marking that copy as special.  I doubt that anyone here would call me stupid for buying that; everyone understands that fans and admirers like autographed copies.  By close analogy, I would be happy to buy a limited-edition, digitally-autographed NFT for an e-book issued by the same author.

NFTs are also good for the use case of tracking title to real-world assets, e.g. land titles.  If NFTs can take over those functions in the future, that will improve the world.  The legacy systems are horrible.  Cryptography can make things better.

Somehow, I get the feeling that the people bashing NFTs didn’t CPU-mine Bitcoin in 2009, and didn’t buy Bitcoin at $0.06.  It is hard to see the future.



Disclosure:  As of this writing, I have never bought an NFT.  In the future, I may—perhaps—not as a speculative investment, but rather, if I see something that I actually want to own.


0. Right now, that’s mostly Ethereum.  But also right now, there is a hot competition for which smart contract chain will be ETH2—and ETH2 itself seems to be in a losing position, because they are not yet shipping and they won’t be for a long time.  I doubt that ETH maximalists will like the results.  They should have learned a lesson from Bitcoin Core:  Do The Right Thing, don’t move fast and break things with people’s money, and don’t paint yourself into a corner where your system needs massive changes which require disrupting your own ecosystem.  If you do these things, that is how you kill your own brand and lose your first-mover advantage.

1. Long before the general public learned about NFTs in the headlines, I had ideas for a new business model through which NFTs can be used to generate sustainable income for content producers.  I don’t want to spill details, because—business model.  Whereas the importance of such use cases should be obvious to anyone who has followed the copyright wars.

2. The reference to the SEC is especially nonsensical here.  How the hell is ownership of a digital asset in any way even remotely similar to a security representing an equity interest in a business?  Talk about the SEC here is “not even wrong”.  It is a total non sequitur.
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March 17, 2021, 09:53:53 PM
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I have offically joined the ranks of retired WO gentleman. Working just seems kinda pointless.

I don't have any immediate plans to sell a big chunck of my stash - I'll just dip into it as needed.

Go Bitcoin go!
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March 17, 2021, 09:55:41 PM

Finally it’s looking like maths & science is pumping up the price  Grin
Refreshing  Smiley

You mean BTC isn’t dead?

Nah... it can’t die after my 8 year HODL...

It was a proudhon counter attack, plus sideways sucks  Grin
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March 17, 2021, 10:03:11 PM

I have offically joined the ranks of retired WO gentleman. Working just seems kinda pointless.

I don't have any immediate plans to sell a big chunck of my stash - I'll just dip into it as needed.

Go Bitcoin go!


Congratulations!
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March 17, 2021, 10:04:17 PM

Finally it’s looking like maths & science is pumping up the price  Grin
Refreshing  Smiley

You mean BTC isn’t dead?

Nah... it can’t die after my 8 year HODL...

It was a proudhon counter attack, plus sideways sucks  Grin

Dude, was joking. 7 year HODLER & constant buyer here Wink
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March 17, 2021, 10:07:32 PM

New peeps have two choices..

They can buy now...
 or they can buy next month when the wealthy clients of Morgan Stanley start buying with their millions.  Grin

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March 17, 2021, 10:37:05 PM
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Finally it’s looking like maths & science is pumping up the price  Grin
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You mean BTC isn’t dead?

Nah... it can’t die after my 8 year HODL...

It was a proudhon counter attack, plus sideways sucks  Grin

Dude, was joking. 7 year HODLER & constant buyer here Wink

My sarcasm detector doesn’t always work  Cry

HODL + buy = best strategy

Let it rain Lambos for us  Grin Kiss (nohomo)
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March 17, 2021, 10:47:18 PM

70k here we go come.

ftfy


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I am playing it safe with 6x scalping with each small dip Cheesy I want to sleep but I cant. Already made 10% Cheesy

Edit: leverage trading is a bad idea right now actually. With the stim money coming in, whales are going to start spooking the newcomers with flash dumps.
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March 17, 2021, 11:07:48 PM
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NFT garbage scam going full on retard now:

The World’s First NFT House Is Now for Sale
https://www.yahoo.com/lifestyle/world-first-nft-house-now-230000169.html

 Roll Eyes  Roll Eyes
So it's an imaginary ownership of a factitious house.

Wow. Seems legit. Roll Eyes
The SEC are going to have a field day on these idiots who are actually buying up these items thinking they are being hip and in the now for crypto.
Little do they realize everything can come crumbling down on their heads if ethereum (the chain they are being traded on) comes to a dismal end for whatever reason their developers claim to have happened whether it be a hack, a crack or a rack.
You who are in the know on cryptoisms are on to what I am am saying. Wink

Look, I stole a NFT with this code I wrote
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March 17, 2021, 11:12:07 PM

Look, I stole a NFT with this code I wrote
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Don't spoil the fun. DeFi hasn't been that hot lately  Roll Eyes
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March 17, 2021, 11:19:31 PM

I think that NFTs are awesome.  Not necessarily the particular NFTs being making headline trades right now—many of those are stupid; but then, many uses of Bitcoin have been stupid (especially early on)Nonetheless, the concept is awesome.

[...]

To this we agree. I also think the concept of NFTs is awesome. But I'm not quite sure about the current execution of the idea—I only started looking into it literally days ago. It does look like an ideal way for art/content makers to monetize their creations.

How about buying some art pieces now for $0.06, and selling them in a few years for $millions?* Here's something for all of us to think about.

* Why do I get a sense that I'll be reading this post in 10 years' time and be filled with regret and bitterness?
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March 17, 2021, 11:22:18 PM

Bitcoin had NFTs for about a decade. They're called colored coins. There was even a collectible card game created.

What am I missing. Why are people thinking NFTs are new?
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March 17, 2021, 11:23:04 PM

To this we agree. I also think the concept of NFTs is awesome. But I'm not quite sure about the current execution of the idea—I only started looking into it literally days ago. It does look like an ideal way for art/content makers to monetize their creations.

I think NFTs are awesome for the gaming sector too. Card games just one among them, owning your own cards on the blockchain opens up many doors for gaming in general and esport.
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March 17, 2021, 11:28:00 PM

is that NFT too?


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EDIT: want to buy? 21 BTC deal?  Grin
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March 17, 2021, 11:30:20 PM

Great news! Someone upgraded the Bitcoin protocol to allow for the purchase of NFTs!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fmFjmvwPGKU
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March 17, 2021, 11:54:12 PM

Bitcoin had NFTs for about a decade. They're called colored coins. There was even a collectible card game created.

What am I missing. Why are people thinking NFTs are new?

We have been doing this with counterparty on the Bitcoin blockchain like forever..
Look at the transaction on my profile address..
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I think that NFTs are awesome.  Not necessarily the particular NFTs being making headline trades right now—many of those are stupid; but then, many uses of Bitcoin have been stupid (especially early on)Nonetheless, the concept is awesome.

[...]

To this we agree. I also think the concept of NFTs is awesome. But I'm not quite sure about the current execution of the idea—I only started looking into it literally days ago. It does look like an ideal way for art/content makers to monetize their creations.

How about buying some art pieces now for $0.06, and selling them in a few years for $millions?* Here's something for all of us to think about.

* Why do I get a sense that I'll be reading this post in 10 years' time and be filled with regret and bitterness?

Lol thanks for the heads up on making money on art, sounds like true mafia shit Grin
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Does that mean that bitcoin will go to 149059014590 % ?!? Cheesy Cheesy
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March 18, 2021, 12:21:41 AM
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What’s that smell?

Burnt shorts?

The sweet smell of liquidation?

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What’s that smell?

Burnt shorts?

The sweet smell of liquidation?



I read all these threads 🧵 bear bear bear.

Nice to see 59k and by tomorrow 64k new ath.

next week

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