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June 07, 2021, 11:59:58 PM
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All looks fine, many panic sellers, much fear, many opportunities. Approaching summer of the 2021 bull market, go figure. Don't sell fear, buy fear.
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June 08, 2021, 12:08:20 AM

I remember back in April thinking, man I wish I could just go to sleep until June. LOL. What a crazy market. All the newbs talking about naked shorts feels like a repeat of the 2000's when so many got so burned believing that if they just banded together they could stick it to the man. Turns out not everyone wants to band together if it means giving up on making a profit on the back of everyone else in the group, cascading profit takers.
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June 08, 2021, 12:08:50 AM

I am not even going to proclaim that your concern about some companies such as microstrategies overleveraging as being a non-concern, but you do seem to be focusing quite a bit on a large number of strings of events that would need to come true before your hypothetical about a possible situation would end up playing out 4-5 years down the road... not a non-issue, but many of us are going to make our investment choices based on more likely scenarios rather than less likely scenarios.. and sure, maybe you are starting to come to the conclusion that investing in BTC is just a big smoke and mirror situation and we got goofballs like Saylor and MSTR holding it up.. but that seems like exaggerated nonsense too.. almost as bad as the Tether FUD that has not really gone away yet either.

Personally I'm not particularly concerned. I'm operating on the assumption that it's probably a zero-sum circumstance, some pumping by MSTR happened in the past and perhaps some dumping will happen at some point in the future. Although I think I would prefer to have 100 thousand people own one bitcoin each than one Mike own 100k bitcoins but I don't really have any say in that, do I.

I'm just mildly amused by the general sentiment towards certain actors doing questionable things that benefit Bitcoin price and we seem to put too much emphasis on the latter. Until they turn around and start pumping DOGE, then they're obviously evil, and a gentle stink of panic is starting to waft through this thread.
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You can view the trail of the coins here:

https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1402056/download

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June 08, 2021, 12:14:40 AM

I'm thinking that the president is moving ahead so quickly with the Bitcoin legislation that the US likely will not have time to react in time.

As governments tend to do, they will put together meetings, try to come up with their strategy, they'll make phone calls to gather information that we already know but will take them longer to figure out.

If El Salvador pulls it off in a week or so then it will happen.

If they get bogged down in the processes like the US government then it will likely be stopped.

This is certainly a risk.  I was thinking this too.  Particularly since the CIA could have time to pay someone a visit etc...

But I think the end game is a done deal.  Their people are not going to stop using it.  And if the US (or bildebergers, or soros, or musk or martians?) shuts them down The might use it even more.

This is unstoppable at this point I think.

All the developed countries can have a real impact on is their own economies, or lack thereof because of being laggards.
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Unfortunately it just says "the private key [...] is in the possession of the FBI" and doesn't explain what kind witchcraft was employed in obtaining said possession. It just lists 4 or 5 hops without any proof that the perp owns all those addresses... for all we know the coins could have been sold OTC or something.
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June 08, 2021, 12:45:25 AM

the 'fuck, another bloody Monday' evening wall report

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I am not even going to proclaim that your concern about some companies such as microstrategies overleveraging as being a non-concern, but you do seem to be focusing quite a bit on a large number of strings of events that would need to come true before your hypothetical about a possible situation would end up playing out 4-5 years down the road... not a non-issue, but many of us are going to make our investment choices based on more likely scenarios rather than less likely scenarios.. and sure, maybe you are starting to come to the conclusion that investing in BTC is just a big smoke and mirror situation and we got goofballs like Saylor and MSTR holding it up.. but that seems like exaggerated nonsense too.. almost as bad as the Tether FUD that has not really gone away yet either.

Personally I'm not particularly concerned. I'm operating on the assumption that it's probably a zero-sum circumstance, some pumping by MSTR happened in the past and perhaps some dumping will happen at some point in the future. Although I think I would prefer to have 100 thousand people own one bitcoin each than one Mike own 100k bitcoins but I don't really have any say in that, do I.

Well, you could take some or all of your 100k in bitcoin and distribute those out to 100k in persons to the extent that you believe that you can locate deserving peeps and figure out ways to get them to accept your moar fair distribution.

I find it a bit more helpful to attempt to consider and attempt to work with "what is" rather than "what ought," even though people can work towards various kinds of areas of making the "ought" an "is" to the extent that it is within their power and talents -.. otherwise getting too worked-up about the ought does sometimes get folks in trouble in bitcoinlandia whether we are referring to Elon Musk in 2021, Mike Hearn in 2016 or various big blocker diptwats in 2016/2017.

In some sense, we might want to consider how "lucky" we are to have had about a year and a half of kumbaya in bitcoinlandia.. and bitcoin being able to develop as strongly as it did with a kind of benevolent dictator that seemed to have launched it into a kind of quasi-decentralized (and really also somewhat powerful too) status upon his disappearance from the bitcoin scene (and not moving his coins either).

Yes, more combativeness did seem to grow with increases in value, but in quite a few senses bitcoin seems to have been designed to allow for friends and enemies to strategize to their own self-interests, and even their battling over aspects of bitcoin seems to create some reactions and/results of bitcoin becoming stronger...  

And, maybe my point is that we cannot stop anyone from trying to hoard all the bitcoins or whatever they are doing, including if they strategically start to dump on the side in order to buy more coins at lower prices.  We cannot stop any of that including that billions of people still do not have any coins - and some hardly know what bitcoin is, and then there could be epistimological questions regarding whether they are still benefited by the creation and growth of bitcoin, even though they do not have any and the price of BTC will likely be pumped into the $1 million to $10 million range before a lot of them get off their asses and get some (not trying to blame anyone for sure because some  do not know because they have not figured it out (they are confused or they are into shitcoins) and some have not even heard of "what is bitcoin?").


I'm just mildly amused by the general sentiment towards certain actors doing questionable things that benefit Bitcoin price and we seem to put too much emphasis on the latter. Until they turn around and start pumping DOGE, then they're obviously evil, and a gentle stink of panic is starting to waft through this thread.

You are coming off as a troll (or perhaps like a disgruntled nocoiner) with these kinds of nonsense generalizations trying to find contradictions, cultism and religious characteristics in the bitcoin community (or maybe this thread more specifically).  We are all over the place with our thoughts about all kinds of things, and sure you can find patterns and you can find evidence of trend followers sheep and perhaps even lemmings, but so what?  

In the long run, everyone is going to be in bitcoin, and sure there can be a lot of quirks while working out matters and talking about bitcoin, and there are going to be all kinds of motives to be in or out of bitcoin, too.. including some people using debt, some people gambling and some people believing in shitcoins and others believing that in order to get more bitcoin they have to get involved in shitcoins and people all over the place and finding their own place (if any) in bitcoin.  

There will be people fighting bitcoin until their death and some people having dumb theories about supercycle and others having theories about stock to flow, four-year fractal and exponential s-curve adoption, some people will be wrong and some will be right and some will be variations between right and wrong and get into bitcoin in time 1, get out in time 2 and get back in in time 3, and other variations of that, including some people jumping to their death with a 53% correction, and others naming their baby satoshi or satoshita... and the corrections might not seem to want to stop (even in a bull market, go figure?), but then maybe the bull market ends up happening when there was supposed to be a bear market.. and the theories have to be revised because bcash decided to unfork itself, and so many other variations of known unknowns and unknown unknowns.. and even wannabe knowns that end up happening, despite many people (who had thought about the matter - especially the wanna be sorcerers who ended up being correct) believing that they would.

I think that it is NOT very nice of you, suchmoon, to be ascribing generalizations to various kinds of us - even if you believe that you can see patterns in our behaviors, and you have been around and active in this forum too long for engaging in those kinds of generalizations about us suchmoon, amiNOTrite?
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June 08, 2021, 01:00:44 AM
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I haven't been watching the charts much recently and I feel much better for it. Lots of fresh air, green space and exercise while catching up on a few podcasts instead. And guess what, I still have the same number of bitcoins that I had last week. So my net worth hasn't changed one bit.

I shall head off for a sleep hodl now and will wake up to again find that my bitcoins are still worth the same number of bitcoins they were yesterday.

I highly recommend using BTC as a measure of your wealth instead of your country's native fiat tokens. It makes for a happier life (unless you're a no-coiner, of course).

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I don't think that it is very nice of you to be ascribing generalizations to various kinds of us - even if you believe that you can see patterns, and you been around and active in this forum too long for that suchmoon, amiNOTrite?

Oh come on, there is clearly a pattern and it's not particularly subtle or complicated. We cheer the events that we think make the price going up and look for someone to blame when it goes down. I've been around long enough to be more amused than worried about that.
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I don't think that it is very nice of you to be ascribing generalizations to various kinds of us - even if you believe that you can see patterns, and you been around and active in this forum too long for that suchmoon, amiNOTrite?

Oh come on, there is clearly a pattern and it's not particularly subtle or complicated. We cheer the events that we think make the price going up and look for someone to blame when it goes down. I've been around long enough to be more amused than worried about that.

I revised my post a wee bit (including that cited part), but still.. I think that we can agree to disagree.  Can we not? I think that you are both coming off as too judgmental and seem to have some kind of built in (wrong) presumption that people are less than objective because they are talking their book (maybe even subliminally).

I will agree that many of the more active participants are interested in a common topic, and some of us have more time than others to participate in discussion here.  But, even amongst peeps who seem to agree, we don't necessarily agree as much you seem to be making us out to be agreeing.

Probably you need to hang out with us a bit more, so you will lessen the quantity of your premature (and ill-founded) judging.. and join the fucking club.. where's your hat? where's your lazer eyes?  Don't you know nuttin about being a proper WO moonie?  At least you got such the right wow name for it.  #nohomo.
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It's been over 10 years, but it's wild to finally see the confirmed end of bitcoin play out in real time. What should we do now?
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June 08, 2021, 01:48:04 AM

It's been over 10 years, but it's wild to finally see the confirmed end of bitcoin play out in real time. What should we do now?

Crying would not be a bad thing to do.
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cool good read !
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It's been over 10 years, but it's wild to finally see the confirmed end of bitcoin play out in real time. What should we do now?

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https://www.c[Suspicious link removed]m/2021/06/07/us-recovers-some-of-the-money-paid-in-the-colonial-pipeline-ransom-officials-say.html

https://www.npr.org/2021/06/07/1004050873/u-s-retrieves-some-of-the-colonial-pipeline-ransom


HOW??

how is that possible??

probably not a lot of 75 BTC transaction on that day,  soooo follow the money

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cool good read !

Para 34. I would be very interested to know how this happened.
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June 08, 2021, 02:46:27 AM

cheap corn under 33k

I got some at 32950

correction 32926 and 33,262

looking for more dip

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