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[marcus_of_augustus]

İf I dont want to take that vaccine then I dont want it. İt should be my choice.

Except for the part where you infect others.

... the current vaccines are non-sterilising, especially mRNA vacc., this means you will still spread the virus and 'infect others' if you are vaccinated or not

... so you can park that particularly odious moral superiority guilt-trip attempt

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[marcus_of_augustus]

Personally, I don't support mandatory vaccinations, but having a relatively large pool of unvaccinated people increases the "field" for the virus to propagate in and, therefore, produce new variants that could potentially break through to both vaccinated and unvaccinated. Non-replicating virus cannot mutate.

... see above, the vaccines are non-sterilising so the virus is still replicating, and mutating, among the vaccinated so your logic is based on a fallacy

.... it maybe advantageous in these circumstances to maintain a pool of unvaccinated in case a mutant that proves to be extraordinarily deadly arises in the vaccinated population that is less deadly for the naturally immune, as an insurance policy for humanity

[Biodom]

Personally, I don't support mandatory vaccinations, but having a relatively large pool of unvaccinated people increases the "field" for the virus to propagate in and, therefore, produce new variants that could potentially break through to both vaccinated and unvaccinated. Non-replicating virus cannot mutate.

... see above, the vaccines are non-sterilising so the virus is still replicating, and mutating, among the vaccinated so your logic is based on a fallacy

.... it maybe advantageous in these circumstances to maintain a pool of unvaccinated in case a mutant that proves to be extraordinarily deadly arises in the vaccinated population that is less deadly for the naturally immune, as an insurance policy for humanity

Maybe, but I wouldn't be so categorical about non-sterilizing as there is some evidence that moderna could be sterilizing 90 days after 2nd injection (see ref 10 in the link below):
https://www.verywellhealth.com/covid-19-vaccines-and-sterilizing-immunity-5092148

re second-there is always a good idea to have some people that are different in behavior and everything else, hence i do not support mandatory vaxxing (apart from very deadly agents, of course).

[nutildah]

... see above, the vaccines are non-sterilising so the virus is still replicating, and mutating, among the vaccinated so your logic is based on a fallacy

This was known about the covid vaccine from the very beginning. It still doesn't render it ineffective against controlling spread of the virus. If it did, why are cases falling in places with substantial rates of vaccination?



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccines-need-not-completely-stop-covid-transmission-to-curb-the-pandemic1/#

In a paper in the October 2020 issue of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, researchers modeled what a COVID-19 vaccine with varying types of protection could mean. They found that if a vaccine protects 80 percent of those immunized and 75 percent of the population is vaccinated, it could largely end an epidemic without other measures such as social distancing...

...if the vaccine only prevents disease or reduces viral shedding rather than eliminating it, additional public health measures may still be necessary. Even so, Lee stressed that a widespread nonsterilizing vaccine could still reduce burden on the health care system and save lives.

This was written all the way back in January, and guess what? It did save lives.

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[eXPHorizon]

If anyone needs 0.75L of the Best White Vine they have ever ever and i mean ever drank let me know. It is ... worth every cent, it is 100k per bottle and it is only 100 Liters of Heartmade Vine and probably the best of this time... It makey your hair stay up due to of surprise of taste


Jesus H Christ this is tasty

Ur pro vine taster, eXPHorizon 

[Hueristic]

Time Travel brings me to Electricity. What do you guys think Reality is powered by? Electricity. Which many Electrical currents exist. Its a selfsustainable element which is the fundamental to all life in the Creation. Electricity is attraction and gravity, it is everything , it moves particles around . ... However i would like to explore the Holy Element even further to broaden my horizons by experimenting with various elemental procedures.


It is sad that we are currently 100 years into the Electrical era and we as Humanity think we have tapped into the outmost absolute secrets and ways about it .

Looks like someone just discovered lsd.

This made me lol and I was about to merit it until I realized you quoted the Scamming Cryptonian troll.

[Hueristic]

[eXPHorizon]

Time Travel brings me to Electricity. What do you guys think Reality is powered by? Electricity. Which many Electrical currents exist. Its a selfsustainable element which is the fundamental to all life in the Creation. Electricity is attraction and gravity, it is everything , it moves particles around . ... However i would like to explore the Holy Element even further to broaden my horizons by experimenting with various elemental procedures.


It is sad that we are currently 100 years into the Electrical era and we as Humanity think we have tapped into the outmost absolute secrets and ways about it .

Looks like someone just discovered lsd.

This made me lol and I was about to merit it until I realized you quoted the Scamming Cryptonian troll.

I pressed Unignore for this stupid shit ?

[fillippone]

You asked for it.
You saw it coming.
Now we officially have it:

WO DENIZENS' FINAL

	ITA	ENG
	0	0

[Arriemoller]

What about the released footage of the unexplained airborne phenomena (or what ever they called it). That might be probes from the future.

I am not sure that i know which Video Footage you are talking about. Got a link ?

Here you go.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jun/25/ufos-us-government-report

[cAPSLOCK]

If anyone needs 0.75L of the Best White Vine they have ever ever and i mean ever drank let me know. It is ... worth every cent, it is 100k per bottle and it is only 100 Liters of Heartmade Vine and probably the best of this time... It makey your hair stay up due to of surprise of taste


Jesus H Christ this is tasty

Ur pro vine taster, eXPHorizon 

I tend to lean towards reds for sure... But I do quite like a very very DRY white.  For ~$33 I think it would need to be dry for me.

[marcus_of_augustus]

... see above, the vaccines are non-sterilising so the virus is still replicating, and mutating, among the vaccinated so your logic is based on a fallacy

This was known about the covid vaccine from the very beginning. It still doesn't render it ineffective against controlling spread of the virus. If it did, why are cases falling in places with substantial rates of vaccination?



https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccines-need-not-completely-stop-covid-transmission-to-curb-the-pandemic1/#

In a paper in the October 2020 issue of the American Journal of Preventive Medicine, researchers modeled what a COVID-19 vaccine with varying types of protection could mean. They found that if a vaccine protects 80 percent of those immunized and 75 percent of the population is vaccinated, it could largely end an epidemic without other measures such as social distancing...

...if the vaccine only prevents disease or reduces viral shedding rather than eliminating it, additional public health measures may still be necessary. Even so, Lee stressed that a widespread nonsterilizing vaccine could still reduce burden on the health care system and save lives.

This was written all the way back in January, and guess what? It did save lives.

... thanks for backing up my point, the vaccines were never primarily about preventing the spread of the virus since it is already endemic and the vaccines are in the most part non-sterilising

... the vaccines were primarily about preventing overwhelming hospitalisations, which they have now done aided no doubt by natural immunity, your move public health gurus .... i.e. preventing overwhelming hospitalisations does not require population-wide vaccination and virus eradication, that would be an expansion of the vaccination mandate

... shifting the goalposts comes easily though for those drunk on pandemic-induced fear and powers grabbed

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[philipma1957]

keep it up buddy.

34k = bigly consolidation for miners still mining.

[eXPHorizon]

If anyone needs 0.75L of the Best White Vine they have ever ever and i mean ever drank let me know. It is ... worth every cent, it is 100k per bottle and it is only 100 Liters of Heartmade Vine and probably the best of this time... It makey your hair stay up due to of surprise of taste


Jesus H Christ this is tasty

Ur pro vine taster, eXPHorizon 

I tend to lean towards reds for sure... But I do quite like a very very DRY white.  For ~$33 I think it would need to be dry for me.

Me too, i am obsessed with Red Vine, but this Treasure is ... undescribable, i have not tasted anything like it in the area of Whites. It has no Sulfur taste and pure and i mean pure pure white vine taste with 13% Alcohol as a Bonus

[Biodom]

Italy has a long streak of not losing, England has a home advantage.
ITA has one more day of rest.
Interesting...imho, whoever scores first, wins.

PS: IN US, they edited out in youtube clip HOW R. Sterling got a penalty.
Think whatever you want about it. To me it did not look a real penalty, but I am not a ref.
If this s-t repeats itself with Italy, then I would believe in conspiratorial UEFA wanting England to be a winner, but we shall see.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxLupATWPFQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxY-eNwKpjw    Arsene agrees (no pen)...Shaka is the only one disagreeing (pen OK).
Apparently, the guy is a known diver:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ivchRbhxQCU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2XX23_5RphU

[nutildah]

... thanks for backing up my point, the vaccines were never primarily about preventing the spread of the virus since it is already endemic and the vaccines are in the most part non-sterilising

That's not what I said. The vaccine is 100% about preventing the spread of the virus.

... the vaccines were primarily about preventing overwhelming hospitalisations,

which are due to...

which they have now done aided no doubt by natural immunity

Covid rates are plummeting in highly-vaccinated regions of the world, not so much in others. Having said that, I do believe the entire thing will fizzle out for the most part within a year's time... if anything the vaccine only hastened the end by a few months.

i.e. preventing overwhelming hospitalisations does not require population-wide vaccination and virus eradication, that would be an expansion of the vaccination mandate

This part is correct.

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[philipma1957]

buddy is slipping. 33.8k  lets push it back over 34k buddy do your job.