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March 16, 2024, 08:38:24 AM

It currently costs 8 BTC to buy a property in Portugal to get a golden retirement visa.
This is a big change from last year at about 25 BTC for a large part of the year.

Once it costs around 0.5 BTC I'm off and going to enjoy better year round weather.


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Yes but please note that real estate investment in LISBON is not anymore an option to get the Golden visa in Portugal (they removed it last november). Same for NHR tax scheme from 1/1/2024 (except for the current beneficiaries of this tax scheme, valid for 10 years).

Those bastards.  Sad

For the Golden Visa, i am honestly agree with them. Lisbon is a really small capital. Only 500K people. Already LOT of airbnbs there as it's one of the only capital in Europe you can enjoy to visit almost all around the years, and already lot of Americans, indians, brazilians, russians too (before the war) bought flats in Lisbon by overpaying (at this time) to get the golden visa and pressure the market to higher.

Problem is Portugal is still a 'poor' country, minimum salary is around 800€, even with good position you will not get 2/3K+. If you want to get a decent 2BR flat in a central area in Lisbon, you have almost nothing below 2K+ a month. It's currently in Europe the most unbalanced between salary/local standard of living and rent/property price.
The decision of removing golden visa to someone that purchase a property in Portugal may have negative impact to their economy because I think inclusion of golden visa policies to someone that has a property in Portugal could be one of the thing that motivate many investors to acquire properties and as such those investors are equally advantage to the enhancement of their economy by paying taxes and creating employment  but now that golden visa is not feasible many people may turndown their interest to purchase properties as well as other possible investment.


In the other hand, Portugal is still keeping the tax free on any Bitcoin/crypto capital gain if you hold at least 1 year (same in Germany, but not same lifestyle btw Germany and Portugal IMHO).. In Europe it's difficult to find any other Bitcoin friendly country mixed with a good lifestyle/safe/ocean/welcoming.
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March 16, 2024, 08:50:14 AM

All those countries that have golden visas....first they want to attract investors, then they think that they are "selling out" too cheap.
I wish there would be some larger country in EU that would announce something like that for bitcoin investors.
Portugal looked OK for a while, but now they closed Lisbon and Algarve for residential investment, only commercial remains.
Besides, Portugal is more attractive for non-US because US citizens pay taxes to almost the same degree, independently of where they live (with some deductions for foreign income). If taxes stay the same (no more than 23.8% for cap gains), I would stay put.

I looked into Puerto-Rico before-lots of hassle and an unclear benefit.
It would have paid nicely to buy btc in 2014-2015, then move to Puerto-Rico, then sell out in 2021 and move back to the mainland.
No taxes on cap gains accrued between 2016-2021 in this scenario as it only affects cap gains AFTER you moved in.
I hear that a few ICO a-holes did exactly that.
But...I have had enough of tropics and subtropics  Grin.

I don't know exactly about US and if maybe you can optimize some parts, but it's correct regarding EU citizens.

If you got the benefit of NHR tax scheme in Portugal, you don't pay any tax on foreign capital income (interests, dividends, royalties) for 10 years.
NHR tax scheme or not, if you are tax resident in Portugal, you dont pay any tax on crypto capital gain after holding at least 365 years (have to declare on the tax form but its tax free).

Coupled by if you allow a % of your cash out in some ETFS / stocks with dividends distributing like with IB brokers, you dont pay any tax and no WHT tax either (most of their ETFS are based in UK/Ireland so no WHT). Same if you stack some dirty fiats, no WHT, no tax on it then. It's just some examples that you can really well optimize, in you have these kind of incomes.

So basically, if you are a long term holder + living from passive income (dividends, interests) Portugal is/was really a good alternative in Europe.

As I said previously they stopped the NHR from 01/01/2024 (for the new applicants), but they are working for another tax incentive scheme for 'wealthy' digital nomad and HNWI+
So probably something similar can happen later this year or next year.
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We are poor again 😕

No buddy we are staying on correction time.

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JUST IN: 🇸🇻 El Salvador purchases another Bitcoin, bringing its total to 5,690 $BTC, worth $397 million.


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March 16, 2024, 03:57:07 PM

Good morning Bitcoinland.

I hate weekends. Too many things unavailable. Oh well, good old Monday will be here soon enough.

Meanwhile Bitcoin continues bouncing along in the $68k-$70k range. Ho hum.

Hopefully Monday will get this rally back on track. It's been a couple of days without an ATH.

Edit: I feel bad about interrupting Buddy after 5 in a row but I wanted to honestly post good morning before the crack of noon.
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March 16, 2024, 04:03:50 PM

Things with the market have already looked very good, the ATH of $73k is not bad at All , but is what is happening now a Correction ? It looks like a normal Correction , I would say yes ,  I also really like this Article and the approach they are giving , it may be that by the end of this month we will have good news:

Here’s why Bitcoin is likely to hit another record high by the end of March

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After Bitcoin (BTC) attained an all-time high of above $73,000, the market has been on edge regarding the next step for the maiden crypto. Indeed, a section of the market anticipates that Bitcoin might be experiencing a pre-halving retracement after falling from the record high to around $65,000 within hours.

Amid the anticipation, crypto trading expert Trading Shot has observed that based on technical indicators, Bitcoin is likely to see another all-time high by the end of March.

In a TradingView post on March 15, the analyst pointed out that the drop to $65,000 saw Bitcoin breaking below the four-hour MA50 and entering the green Ichimoku Cloud for the first time in the month, while also touching the bottom of the short-term channel up pattern.



Original Source: https://finbold.com/heres-why-bitcoin-is-likely-to-hit-another-record-high-by-the-end-of-march/

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March 16, 2024, 07:41:10 PM

We are poor again 😕
Lol it's the price that fell not the quantity you own
With its intrinsic value and potential price
We still rich
Always would be as long as we have some BTC in our wallet.
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yeah 66k+ is old hat 🎩
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